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    The St. Croix Boy duncan2k5's Avatar
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    I fear he is being pigeonholed into being a 3D player when he was showing himself as a more versatile player in college... Since he has been drafted, he rarely dribbles the ball... Rarely drives... He is just a spot up shooter on offense...

    I think that has to do with several things:

    1. Pop can sometimes be rigid in his way of coaching and how he sees certain players as fitting roles as opposed to having them have some on court freedom to develop their game... Some examples are Hedo... Came from being a spot up shooter here to the very next year damn near being an mvp candidate with how he was leading the Magic and took them to the finals as the main ballhandler in their offense... Also the infamous Bam snob from the olympics... So he may be coaching Devin as a 3D player when he isn't, and Devin probably feels like he doesn't have the clout to break a play or do something in game for fear of being pulled.

    2. He plays with some emotional players that are somewhat ball dominant... LMA and DDR tend to give off negative body language when they aren't getting the ball, and Rudy and Patty can be black holes on offense... So he may feel like he doesn't have the right to take things into his own hands and settles for shooting spot ups when they decide to pass it to him



    Just my opinion... I may be completely wrong and he may be a Danny Green 2.0... but I would like to see him given the chance to show what he can do... Learn and grow his game... Have him run a pick and roll every now and then... Have him set up a play at least once or twice a game... Don't just have him stand in the corner... Have him actually do the things u would like to see him do

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    Danny Green spent 3 years in the NBA, GLeague, and overseas before becoming the Danny Green we loved, and he was still just a role player.

    Let the kid walk before he runs. He needs to focus on what he does well first, and then add to his game. Giving him the keys to run offense or be a playmaker would put way too much pressure on a guy who had no summer league, a shortened preseason, and has played all of 16 games in the NBA.

    There are things worth complaining about with PATFO, but player development shouldn't be one of them.

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    Chip needs to work him into being able to knock down some shots when called everything else will come after that.

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    he's an offball player, he should shoot spot up jump shots. Everything else will likely come along next season

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    This is a non issue. Just ask that head Kawhi

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    idk if you've actually watched a game, But vasell has done more than just being a 3 and D guy. He's had a mid range game, a bit inconsitence but it's there. Last few games I've seen him in the ball up.

    All of those skills still need development.

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    Vassell isn't anything more than a 3-D player, tbh. He has the potential to be an elite 3-D player though.

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    They will mold his offensive game once they get an offseason with him. Note that they didn't turn Kawhi into a 3 and D player. I think they see Vassell as a player with skill to handle the ball and create, but he will need to grow into a larger offensive role.

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    This is a non issue. Just ask that head Kawhi
    Unfortunately... that's right.

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    You should fear more important like where you'll find your next source of clean drinking water

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    I don't think we develop rookies as well as u guys think we do... This isn't 10 years ago... Other teams play their rookies and allow them to make mistakes and grow their games (similar to how pop actually played parker and Ginobili as rookies)... If parker and gino were drafted by today's pop, they wouldn't start... They may not even play... Especially being late round draft picks... The way we deal with young players now is different... I know ppl love bashing me here, but we ALL have complained about it... Let's not pretend we haven't just because I'm the one saying it...

    There are teams better than us that play their rookies significant minutes and allow them to make mistakes without fear of being benched or g-leagued... You can't assume a player will develop... Even the answers on here are telling... Some think he is just a 3D guy, some think he can develop into more... I say give him the chance to show more than just spotting up... Especially when he has shown that in college .. we are dumbing him down... He is a lottery pick on a bad team for goodness sakes

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    If you were watching the games, you'd see he has poor ball handling skills. He needs an offseason to work on his dribbling. I've pointed it out in game threads out how he gets trapped often because he has poor ball handling.

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    idk if you've actually watched a game, But vasell has done more than just being a 3 and D guy. He's had a mid range game, a bit inconsitence but it's there. Last few games I've seen him in the ball up.

    All of those skills still need development.

    exactly

    Vassell has mostly been an off the ball player on offense with the bench crew (which is actually the strength of this team) and is doing a great job. He has definitely showed though, that he can put the ball on the deck and hit pull up jumpers or penetrate the defense a little bit. He fits perfectly in his role with the gunners we already have on this team while showing in spurts that he can do more on offense.

    I think he is going to get better overall and I like how he is playing right now

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    The fact that pop trusts him out there should tell people what they think of him, at the very worst he’s gonna be a great 3&D player, anything above that is gravy! I think he has a ton of potential

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    Vassell isn't anything more than a 3-D player, tbh. He has the potential to be an elite 3-D player though.
    Way to early to make that proclamation in my opinion!

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    I don't think we develop rookies as well as u guys think we do... This isn't 10 years ago... Other teams play their rookies and allow them to make mistakes and grow their games (similar to how pop actually played parker and Ginobili as rookies)... If parker and gino were drafted by today's pop, they wouldn't start... They may not even play... Especially being late round draft picks... The way we deal with young players now is different... I know ppl love bashing me here, but we ALL have complained about it... Let's not pretend we haven't just because I'm the one saying it...

    There are teams better than us that play their rookies significant minutes and allow them to make mistakes without fear of being benched or g-leagued... You can't assume a player will develop... Even the answers on here are telling... Some think he is just a 3D guy, some think he can develop into more... I say give him the chance to show more than just spotting up... Especially when he has shown that in college .. we are dumbing him down... He is a lottery pick on a bad team for goodness sakes
    Are you really picking our development of players hill to die on??? Bro get a clue...... everyone knows we develop players just as well if not better than ALL organizations. Please stop.....

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    He shows glimpses of being able to put the ball on the floor and being effective. He needs time. Things may come fast to him since he seems smart.

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    Way to early to make that proclamation in my opinion!
    He wasn't really much more than a 3 and D player on college, I don't know why he wouod be anything more in the NBA. That's not a knock on him though. I really like him and I think he has the potential to be a championship level piece.

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    I dunno, I'm of the weird philosophy that players need to get used to the league and acclimated to their team sets and surroundings before too much is thrown on them.

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    They did try to expand Danny's game, some fan's might have noticed this. Driving and pick and roll's was never Vassell game in college, one or two dribble pullups is and we have seen plenty of that recently.

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    They did try to expand Danny's game, some fan's might have noticed this. Driving and pick and roll's was never Vassell game in college, one or two dribble pullups is and we have seen plenty of that recently.
    "Plenty"? Nah

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    Are you really picking our development of players hill to die on??? Bro get a clue...... everyone knows we develop players just as well if not better than ALL organizations. Please stop.....
    Ur living in the past, bro...the past several years we ALL have been complaining about how the young guys are treated...this isn't 20 years ago when he would actually play rookies for significant roles...if Covid wasn't happening and white was healthy, we all know Vassel wouldn't be playing the minutes he is playing now

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    I dunno, I'm of the weird philosophy that players need to get used to the league and acclimated to their team sets and surroundings before too much is thrown on them.
    You can do that and run a pick and roll every now and then...no one is saying he needs to carry the offense

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    Alot of good points here. Can we all agree on 2 things:
    1. Its better to see him play over Marco Belinelli
    2. It is better to see our top rookie grow on the NBA floor ad opposed to just Gleague time such as Luca Samanic.

    I think Vasell continues to improve by each game. His defense is already great, worthy of All rookie second team. The veterans on this team are looking for their shots, likely because they are free agents and want to show their value. That will make it hard for him to truly expand his game this year but next year we could see a significant jump, especially of 2 of the 4 older veterans leave.

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    did you watch how Kawhi developed AT ALL?

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