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It was always inevitable that the Spurs would eventually go from anomalous NBA royalty back to backwater, small town franchise like an Indiana, or Sacramento.
Hopefully it won't be that bad.
it's incredible how some of y'all fail to grasp the point because you don't want to eat crow.
i posted this thread when the spurs were atop the divsion. the spurs should've moved la and demar when they had more value, period. this thread was about me knowing they wouldn't do that and suffer consequences later instead of tanking then and being in a better place now.
It was always inevitable that the Spurs would eventually go from anomalous NBA royalty back to backwater, small town franchise like an Indiana, or Sacramento.
Hopefully it won't be that bad.
Welp,damn
OP got on hard but turned out to be spot on. Pels looking good. Memphis is an elite team. Dallas has Luka. Houston has a solid young core. Spurs have Keldon
If we miss out on Wemby and Scoot we're truly ed
I still hope houston gives us a run for our money
Way to early to be handing out medals ….. patience my guy
If we miss out on Wemby and Scoot we're truly ed
Scoot or Wemby or the season is a bust. This is the first season in 22 years when I am cheering every loss.
As one person put it you are never as bad as you think are and never as good as you think you are depending on the result.
But damn-It's the 50th anniversary season...... of the 72-73 76ers. Arguably the worse team ever.
This thread being bumped is gonna piss off Dejounte something fierce.
If we miss out on Wemby and Scoot we're truly ed
You're wrong
If we miss out on Wemby and Scoot we're truly ed
You're falling into the same mistake he was: judging only the talent level of other teams' players in a vacuum, and adhering results to them. BBall isn't that straightforward; if all it took to win a ring was talent, the Kings and Wolves would've been fighting out the past decades' chips.
None of the teams you listed has made even a Conference Finals yet, and the Spurs are just now starting their rebuild. The thread was and will be predictably bumped, but OP and I both know this hasn't been settled yet.
Spot on, OP.
It only just occured to me that this thread was a reverse-jinx to ensure the Spurs land Wembanyama. I'm rid of doubts: we're landing the No.1 pick in the next draft. I'll be sure to thank OP properly after we're done celebrating...
At the least talented team in the league picking a relatively low ceiling player with the 9th pick and likely getting very little from their rookies again despite having 3 of the top 25 picks.
But hey, at least we get to watch Vassell's efficiency crater while he pretends to be an on-ball scorer, while a confused Primo masquerades as a PG backing up the fringe rotation player starting in front of him.
There's no team in the league as in need of a centerpiece, yet you just know they're not getting a top 2 pick.
This is just straight up homerism bro, no offense. Yeah we obviously can't know the future but it's not even debatable that every other team in the conference projects to be better than us for the foreseeable future.
You're falling into the same mistake he was: judging only the talent level of other teams' players in a vacuum, and adhering results to them. BBall isn't that straightforward; if all it took to win a ring was talent, the Kings and Wolves would've been fighting out the past decades' chips.
None of the teams you listed has made even a Conference Finals yet, and the Spurs are just now starting their rebuild. The thread was and will be predictably bumped, but OP and I both know this hasn't been settled yet.
Of course we can change that by landing a top 2 pick this season. But nothing I said is even controversial
Also what super talented teams have the Kings and Wolves had in the last decade?
oh this is tiresome. Gambit was one of several posters that wanted to trade the LMA derozan core, a playoff spoiler level team, to tank. He argues that the spurs were in the dreaded pretenders area where they can't get better and don't get high draft picks. Many have argued that tanking isn't a panacea and you can get young talent from later picks if you are careful and lucky. The spurs did that with derrick white and murray. Then they decided to trade them for value in processs style tank. They did exactly what gambit argued, albeit three years later. OKC is ahead in their tank, Houston is ahead of their tank. Memphis is good, new orleans is good and raped the lakers for their HOF draft pick A. Davis.This is just straight up homerism bro, no offense. Yeah we obviously can't know the future but it's not even debatable that every other team in the conference projects to be better than us for the foreseeable future.
Of course we can change that by landing a top 2 pick this season. But nothing I said is even controversial
Also what super talented teams have the Kings and Wolves had in the last decade?
It's stupid to say that SA, on year one of the deep tank, aren't going to equal OKC and houston in talent. IT will come, it doesn't even have to happen this year. Saying the spurs have less talent is true, it's a strategy, one that OP has endorsed.
Finally, we have two blue chips keldon johnson and Sochan. Both are major players on major college teams. They may not be the ones you want, they are not stars, but they're blue chips by the definition.
Sure the OP is right.... until the Spurs get a chance at drafting at the top of the Draft like Grizz, Mavs, Rockets & Pelicans all have to get the current best players on their respective rosters.
Exactlycontext is everything
here's the kicker... a) spurs need draft the correct player and b) they aren't going to all of sudden leapfrog the grizz, mavs, pelicans because they all have established rosters. grizz and pels were playing at a high level in the playoffs, mavs got to the WCF ...
on top of that, the spurs would be lucky to get a coach as good as the grizz or pels.
That's fair. It still starts with picking at the top and landing a potential all nba talent.
Besides the Mavs, every other divisional team has had multiple top 10 picks in the last 3-4 years, with Rockets and Grizz having multiple top 5 picks.
Those top picks don't guarantee , but they are a vital first step.
I think the best example are the Grizzlies. They broke up the Gasol/Conley team when the Spurs had LA/DeRozan/Gay. The Grizzlies are back in contention already, the Spurs just started to tank
Except for when we play other teams in the division they beat us more than we beat them
You're falling into the same mistake he was: judging only the talent level of other teams' players in a vacuum, and adhering results to them. BBall isn't that straightforward; if all it took to win a ring was talent, the Kings and Wolves would've been fighting out the past decades' chips.
None of the teams you listed has made even a Conference Finals yet, and the Spurs are just now starting their rebuild. The thread was and will be predictably bumped, but OP and I both know this hasn't been settled yet.
Which sort of alludes to them being better than us
HOU is still the worst team in the NBA talent wise in year 3 of their rebuild. I mean they are the worst team in the NBA for about 3 years now.
Jalen Green is showing out and looks to have a scary good future, and not just offensively.
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