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    A former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin.

    The information, he says, has been illegally withheld from Congress, and he filed a complaint alleging that he suffered illegal retaliation for his confidential disclosures, reported here for the first time.

    Other intelligence officials, both active and retired, with knowledge of these programs through their work in various agencies, have independently provided similar, corroborating information, both on and off the record.

    The whistleblower, David Charles Grusch, 36, a decorated former combat officer in Afghanistan, is a veteran of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). He served as the reconnaissance office’s representative to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force from 2019-2021. From late 2021 to July 2022, he was the NGA’s co-lead for UAP analysis and its representative to the task force.



    The task force was established to investigate what were once called “unidentified flying objects,” or UFOs, and are now officially called “unidentified anomalous phenomena,” or UAP. The task force was led by the Department of the Navy under the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security. It has since been reorganized and expanded into the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office to include investigations of objects operating underwater.

    Grusch said the recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the government, its allies, and defense contractors. Analysis has determined that the objects retrieved are “of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures,” he said.

    In filing his complaint, Grusch is represented by a lawyer who served as the original Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG).

    “We are not talking about prosaic origins or iden ies,” Grusch said, referencing information he provided Congress and the current ICIG. “The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.”

    In accordance with protocols, Grusch provided the Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review at the Department of Defense with the information he intended to disclose to us. His on-the-record statements were all “cleared for open publication” on April 4 and 6, 2023, in do ents provided to us.

    Grusch’s disclosures, and those of non-public witnesses, under new protective provisions of the latest defense appropriations bill, signal a growing determination by some in the government to unravel a colossal enigma with national security implications that has bedeviled the military and tantalized the public going back to World War II and beyond. For many decades, the Air Force carried out a disinformation campaign to discredit reported sightings of unexplained objects. Now, with two public hearings and many classified briefings under its belt, Congress is pressing for answers.

    Karl E. Nell, a recently retired Army Colonel and current aerospace executive who was the Army’s liaison for the UAP Task Force from 2021 to 2022 and worked with Grusch there, characterizes Grusch as “beyond reproach.”



    Christopher Mellon, who spent nearly twenty years in the U.S. Intelligence Community and served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, has worked with Congress for years on unidentified aerial phenomena.

    “A number of well-placed current and former officials have shared detailed information with me regarding this alleged program, including insights into the history, governing do ents and the location where a craft was allegedly abandoned and recovered,” Mellon said. “However, it is a delicate matter getting this potentially explosive information into the right hands for validation. This is made harder by the fact that, rightly or wrongly, a number of potential sources do not trust the leadership of the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office established by Congress.”

    But some insiders are now willing to take the risk of coming forward for the first time with knowledge of these recovery programs.

    Jonathan Grey is a generational officer of the United States Intelligence Community with a Top-Secret Clearance who currently works for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC), where the analysis of UAP has been his focus. Previously he had experience serving Private Aerospace and Department of Defense Special Directive Task Forces.

    “The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone,” Grey said. “Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.”

    At the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, Grusch served as a Senior Intelligence Capabilities Integration Officer, cleared at the Top Secret/Secret Compartmented Information level, and was the agency’s Senior Technical Advisor for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena analysis/Trans-Medium Issues. From 2016 to 2021, he served with the National Reconnaissance Office as Senior Intelligence Officer and led the production of the NRO director’s daily briefing. Grusch was a GS-15 civilian, the military equivalent of a Colonel.

    Grusch has served as an Intelligence Officer for over fourteen years. A veteran of the Air Force, he has numerous awards and decorations for his participation in covert and clandestine operations to advance American security.



    According to a 2021 NRO Performance Report, Grusch was an intelligence strategist with multiple responsibilities who “analyzed unidentified aerial phenomena reports” and “boosted congressional leadership Intel gaps [in] understanding.” He was assessed by the reconnaissance office’s Operations Center Deputy Director as an “adept staff officer and strategist” and “total force integrator with innovative solutions and actionable results.”

    Grusch prepared many briefs on unidentified aerial phenomena for Congress while in government and helped draft the language on UAP for the FY2023 National Defense Authorization Act, spearheaded by Senators Kirsten Gillibrand and Marco Rubio and signed into law by President Biden in December 2022. The provision states that any person with relevant UAP information can inform Congress without retaliation, regardless of any previous non-disclosure agreements.

    In his statements cleared for publication by the Pentagon in April, Grusch asserted that UFO “legacy programs” have long been concealed within “multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional secret access programs without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities.”

    He said he reported to Congress on the existence of a decades-long “publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material – a compe ion with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defense advantages.”

    Beginning in 2022, Grusch provided Congress with hours of recorded classified information transcribed into hundreds of pages which included specific data about the materials recovery program. Congress has not been provided with any physical materials related to wreckage or other non-human objects.

    Grusch’s investigation was centered on extensive interviews with high-level intelligence officials, some of whom are directly involved with the program. He says the operation was illegally shielded from proper Congressional oversight and that he was targeted and harassed because of his investigation.

    Grusch said that the craft recovery operations are ongoing at various levels of activity and that he knows the specific individuals, current and former, who are involved.

    “Individuals on these UAP programs approached me in my official capacity and disclosed their concerns regarding a mul ude of wrongdoings, such as illegal contracting against the Federal Acquisition Regulations and other criminality and the suppression of information across a qualified industrial base and academia,” he stated.

    Associates who vouched for Grusch said his information was highly sensitive, providing evidence that materials from objects of non-human origin are in the possession of highly secret black programs. Although locations, program names, and other specific data remain classified, the Inspector General and intelligence committee staff were provided with these details. Several current members of the recovery program spoke to the Inspector General’s office and corroborated the information Grusch had provided for the classified complaint.

    Grusch left the government on April 7, 2023, in order, he said, to advance government accountability through public awareness. He remains well-supported within intelligence circles, and numerous sources have vouched for his credibility.

    “His assertion concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring sub-rosa over the past eighty years focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct, as is the indisputable realization that at least some of these technologies of unknown origin derive from non-human intelligence,” said Karl Nell, the retired Army Colonel who worked with Grusch on the UAP Task Force.

    In a 2022 performance evaluation, Laura A. Potter, Deputy Chief of Staff for Intelligence, Headquarters, Department of the Army, described Nell as “an officer with the strongest possible moral compass.”

    Grusch is represented by Charles McCullough III, senior partner of the Compass Rose Legal Group in Washington and the original Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, confirmed by the U.S. Senate in 2011. At that time, McCullough reported directly to the then-Director of National Intelligence, James R. Clapper, and oversaw intelligence officers responsible for audits, inspections, and investigations.

    In May 2022, McCullough filed a Disclosure of Urgent Concern(s); Complaint of Reprisal on behalf of Grusch with the ICIG about detailed information that Grusch had gathered beginning in 2019 while working for the UAP Task Force.

    An unclassified version of the complaint provided to us states that Grusch has direct knowledge that UAP-related classified information has been withheld and/or concealed from Congress by “elements” of the intelligence community “to purposely and intentionally thwart legitimate Congressional oversight of the UAP Program.” All testimony Grusch provided for the classified complaint was provided under oath.

    According to the unclassified complaint, in July 2021, Grusch had confidentially provided classified information to the Department of Defense Inspector General concerning the withholding of UAP-related information from Congress. He believed that his iden y, and the fact that he had provided testimony, were disclosed “to individuals and/or en ies” within the Department of Defense and the Intelligence Community outside the IG’s office. He did not allege that this information was improperly disclosed by any member of that office.

    As a result, Grusch suffered months of retaliation and reprisals related to these disclosures beginning in 2021. He asked that details of these reprisals be withheld to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation.

    The Intelligence Community Inspector General found his complaint “credible and urgent” in July 2022. According to Grusch, a summary was immediately submitted to the Director of National Intelligence, Avril Haines; the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence; and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

    The complaint was drafted and signed by McCullough and his managing partner. It ended with Grusch’s signature attached to his statement that “I do solemnly affirm under the penalties of perjury that the contents of the foregoing paper are true and correct to the best of my knowledge.”

    A whistleblower reprisal investigation was launched, and Grusch began his communication with the staff of the Congressional intelligence committees in private closed-door sessions. According to Grusch, certain information which he obtained in his investigation could not be put before Congressional staffers because they did not have the necessary clearances or the appropriate investigative authority.

    A representative of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence told us in March that the committee members are not able to comment on the content of a complaint or confirm the iden y of a complainant.

    “When you have multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional SAP/CAP programs, both as recipients of exploitation-related insights and for operational reasons, without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities, you have a problem,” Grusch said, referencing the highly secret Special Access Programs and Controlled Access Programs.

    Grusch’s willingness to take risks and speak out appears to be emboldening others with similar knowledge who believe in greater transparency.

    Jonathan Grey, the intelligence officer specializing in UAP analysis at the National Air and Space Intelligence Center, is speaking publicly for the first time, identified here under the iden y he uses inside the agency.

    NASIC, headquartered at Wright Patterson Air Force Base, is the Department of Defense’s primary Air Force source for foreign air and space threat analysis. Its mission is to “discover and characterize air, space, missile, and cyber threats,” according to the agency’s website. “The center’s team of trusted subject matter experts deliver unique collection, exploitation, and analytic capabilities not found elsewhere,” the website states.

    Grey said that such immense capabilities are not merely relegated to the study of the prosaic. “The existence of complex historical programs involving the coordinated retrieval and study of exotic materials, dating back to the early 20th century, should no longer remain a secret,” he said. “The majority of retrieved, foreign exotic materials have a prosaic terrestrial explanation and origin – but not all, and any number higher than zero in this category represents an undeniably significant statistical percentage.”

    https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-...n-human-craft/

    Supplemental fact check

    https://thedebrief.org/fact-check-q-...millan-part-1/




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    So trump is in with the deep state and was holding back this !

    Mother er!

    Sure, he shares Iran info with the Saudis but holds this from everyone.

    What an asshole!

    P. S. All of you that have been anally probed by aliens, lawyer up as you are going to get paid!
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    TSA what did you do after watching The Outer Limits?

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    It is all true.

    Here is a picture of some non-human origin crap.


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    lol not even a sketch, Davey?

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    Does the OP have any idea what this means if true?

    Atomic arrangements of non human origin?
    This would be absolutely enormous.
    Why would this be hidden? Why? We cant handle it or what?

    OP has brain rot of sub-human origin most likely.

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    There should be a lot more people who worked on this chiming in and giving us more exact details.
    I await.

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    Does the OP have any idea what this means if true?

    Atomic arrangements of non human origin?
    This would be absolutely enormous.
    Why would this be hidden? Why? We cant handle it or what?

    OP has brain rot of sub-human origin most likely.
    He will say he does not believe the story and is just posting it as an fyi; however, he will fight you to the death as to its legitimacy.

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    He will say he does not believe the story and is just posting it as an fyi; however, he will fight you to the death as to its legitimacy.
    Yeah probably.
    Im familiar with his backpedaling and lying.

    He needs to work for the National Enquirer instead of just being a conduit for bull .

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    Does the OP have any idea what this means if true?

    Atomic arrangements of non human origin?
    This would be absolutely enormous.
    Why would this be hidden? Why? We cant handle it or what?

    OP has brain rot of sub-human origin most likely.
    Are these just dumb rhetorical questions?

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    This is the highest ranking defense intelligence official to ever come forward with something like this.

    Two days ago the former minority staff director of the Senate Intelligence Committee and former deputy assistant secretary of Defense for Intelligence.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...gence-00100077

    This is a coordinated release. Many more will be coming forward I’m sure.

    This is mind blowingly terrifying and exciting at the same time.

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    There should be a lot more people who worked on this chiming in and giving us more exact details.
    I await.
    This has been hidden from congress and you just expect more exact details immediately lol.

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    Would be neat if true. I've always wondered how mainstream religion would cope with the discovery of extraterrestrial life. Probably call them demons I assume

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    First interview

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    I’ve always thought there was no way we could be the only living things in existence but never thought I’d be alive to witness the confirmation of it. If this is all true I’m having a really hard time processing it. This is wild.

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    Grusch leaves gov in April and then this meeting follows his departure.

    https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-...rity-briefing/

    Add in the new whistleblower protections congress passed and it all starts making sense.

    Glad to see we have some in congress still working for the people. None of this happens without help from congress.

    Statements from intelligence IG after hearing 7 hours from Grusch are crazy too.

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    Yeah probably.
    Im familiar with his backpedaling and lying.

    He needs to work for the National Enquirer instead of just being a conduit for bull .
    And there he goes, falling for another conspiracy and fighting with everyone on its legitimacy.

    I knew a government whistle blower.

    Poor guy had mental issues and was delusional.

    Am sure he would get along well with qtsa.

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    Let me know if he draws a sketch.

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    And there he goes, falling for another conspiracy and fighting with everyone on its legitimacy.

    I knew a government whistle blower.

    Poor guy had mental issues and was delusional.

    Am sure he would get along well with qtsa.
    It’s hilarious how much I’m in your head these days after taking you to the wood shed. You can’t keep my name out of your mouth, it’s pathetic.

    I’d love to hear more about the government whistleblower you claim to know. Link to the complaint.

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    Stopped reading after 1st sentence "he said.."

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    Whistleblowers good now.

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    Would be neat if true. I've always wondered how mainstream religion would cope with the discovery of extraterrestrial life. Probably call them demons I assume
    Babelfish

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    Hasn't there been speculation that it's possible these things inhabit our oceans? I remember USOs being a thing a while back. On another note, I saw a video the other day that basically pans out from Earth, to our solar system, to other solar systems, to our galaxy, then to an enormous number galaxies and then to our universe and on to multiple universes. It kind of made me really question our existence for a moment, more than I usually do. I mean we really shouldn't exist and none of this matters since we're so small with death being the end result.

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    TSA:
    UFO's yup!
    Aliens - yup!
    Pizzagate - Yup!

    Flying monkeys, yup, whistleblowers that are never actually found and confirmed to not be as whacko as TSA - YUP!!!

    The biggest liar on the planet has been lying for his entire life and has conned you into a bizarre belief of garbage for 8 years -

    Uh - NO WAY MAN!!!!

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