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    Boil your water, don’t eat any spoiled food and try to avoid falling down.


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    [COLOR=#000000][FONT=-webkit-standard]Boil your water, don’t eat any spoiled food and try to avoid falling down.
    The falling down thing is real. Lot's of broken hips happening.

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    Boil your water, don’t eat any spoiled food and try to avoid falling down.


    . Portland's sister city is fubar.

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    True, my hiking gear made my walk through the city when it was snowing and 13 degrees with 25 mph wind comfortable as . Can't underestimate having quality gear.
    I dont expect others to have this stuff.
    Its just nice to have a sleeping bag rated for -20 F and such.
    Just lucky I like the outdoors so much.
    Most people seem to be raised inside in front of some sort of screen it seems.

    I say as I type indoors in front of a screen awaiting the inevitable power outage.

    edit: 0 F rating.
    Last edited by pgardn; 02-17-2021 at 10:49 PM.

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    The falling down thing is real. Lot's of broken hips happening.
    Have a package in the mail today but stepped outside and said nope, not busting my ass going to end of drive.

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    . Portland's sister city is fubar.
    Your state is fubar, Karrin.

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    I dont expect others to have this stuff.
    Its just nice to have a sleeping bag rated for -20 F and such.
    Just lucky I like the outdoors so much.
    Most people seem to be raised inside in front of some sort of screen it seems.

    I say as I type indoors in front of a screen awaiting the inevitable power outage.

    I spend a lot of time outdoors. I just prefer 90 degrees to 10.

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    Pucker factor.

    ERCOT and its board are lucky so many directors live out of state. I think one of them lives in Germany.


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    I dont expect others to have this stuff.
    Its just nice to have a sleeping bag rated for -20 F and such.
    Just lucky I like the outdoors so much.
    Most people seem to be raised inside in front of some sort of screen it seems.

    I say as I type indoors in front of a screen awaiting the inevitable power outage.

    edit: 0 F rating.
    I have a bunch of gear too. It's all stored away because I discovered I like the idea of liking the outdoors more than I like the outdoors.

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    I spend a lot of time outdoors. I just prefer 90 degrees to 10.
    The sleeping bag is rated at 0 F
    I made a mistake.

    I prefer 55 degrees for running and 70 degrees in all other cir stances. Its just fun to face cir stances outdoors that require problem solving and really just living for that day. On Yellowstone lake way on the back grounds where you dont see anyone all day you just let the weather and the conditions you find at the different sites determine the day. Its all about what can we do today given the cir stances. Then the cir stances promptly change and you are getting snowed on, sleeted on, hailed on, all in the same day (June after the ice breaks up can be rough). So you spend most of the day in your tent and attempt to build a fire. Eventually your body adjusts to this training and tough conditions. After 9 days you feel like you belong even. Then you leave, find a hotel, and you cant sleep on a nice bed for that night. Absolutely weird.

    But this we are having now should not be forced upon people who are unprepared and live in crappy housing or none at all. I am asking and expecting to suffer a bit when I choose to "test" myself a bit. Some people are just city oriented and just try to get through the day on a "normal" day of drudgery. I have the means to make myself suffer a bit in order to... if I know. Its a weird world.

    We have fckn power at 10 pm!!!

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    I dont expect others to have this stuff.
    Its just nice to have a sleeping bag rated for -20 F and such.
    Just lucky I like the outdoors so much.
    Most people seem to be raised inside in front of some sort of screen it seems.

    I say as I type indoors in front of a screen awaiting the inevitable power outage.

    edit: 0 F rating.
    I only use a bag rated for 20, but when I have actually slept in 20 degree weather it's too hot and I have to unzip it.

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    I have a bunch of gear too. It's all stored away because I discovered I like the idea of liking the outdoors more than I like the outdoors.
    Honestly it sucks the first 2 days. But the people I go with and myself seem to adjust. Its sort of primal and weird. I dont expect others to like it. Exactly ZERO relatives will go with me (my wife will go on minor trips). Just 3 other guys who are as strange as I am. We also have the penchant for being exercise lovers as well so we know each other's capabilities and its easier to dole out duties for that day. It also helps if the people you are with are really funny and very good natured. And are flexible when things get rough, help each other out because we know who climbs best, hikes best, swims best, best kayaker, balances best, the best pack animal...

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    I only use a bag rated for 20, but when I have actually slept in 20 degree weather it's too hot and I have to unzip it.
    Absolutely its too hot. I slept in it in Yellowstone, in June, wearing only underwear. I will really just lay on top of it tonight, maybe have my feet in it. Its 50 F in the house. The bag is a Reisen. My Colorado guy's choice.

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    The sleeping bag is rated at 0 F
    I made a mistake.

    I prefer 55 degrees for running and 70 degrees in all other cir stances. Its just fun to face cir stances outdoors that require problem solving and really just living for that day. On Yellowstone lake way on the back grounds where you dont see anyone all day you just let the weather and the conditions you find at the different sites determine the day. Its all about what can we do today given the cir stances. Then the cir stances promptly change and you are getting snowed on, sleeted on, hailed on, all in the same day (June after the ice breaks up can be rough). So you spend most of the day in your tent and attempt to build a fire. Eventually your body adjusts to this training and tough conditions. After 9 days you feel like you belong even. Then you leave, find a hotel, and you cant sleep on a nice bed for that night. Absolutely weird.

    But this we are having now should not be forced upon people who are unprepared and live in crappy housing or none at all. I am asking and expecting to suffer a bit when I choose to "test" myself a bit. Some people are just city oriented and just try to get through the day on a "normal" day of drudgery. I have the means to make myself suffer a bit in order to... if I know. Its a weird world.

    We have fckn power at 10 pm!!!

    Been to Yellowstone once when I was 12 or so. Completely paranoid about grizzly bears. Never saw one, thankfully.

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    ^ Isn't that the tentacle porn guy?

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    Been to Yellowstone once when I was 12 or so. Completely paranoid about grizzly bears. Never saw one, thankfully.
    every year we have to watch the Park Service "bear video" before we go to the back country
    And I want nothing to do with them, nothing. I only want to see one from a car.
    One time we found some older bear scat and it unnerved all of us a bit.

    We have all experimented with the bear spray and its awesome. It shoots a long way and pushes your hand back, pretty amazing.
    None of us have sprayed ourselves yet. I pictured myself in my sleeping bag, spraying myself accidentally, and then being eaten like a y taco.

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    ^ Isn't that the tentacle porn guy?
    Would that change anything about the energy situation in Texas or are we just not going to say anything about that anymore?

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    Been to Yellowstone once when I was 12 or so. Completely paranoid about grizzly bears. Never saw one, thankfully.
    Bison are much more dangerous tbh

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    The idiot is standing in line outside of HEB on a freezing ing day 3 days after the storm hit because he has no food in the winter time. I don't think you have to do the math on that one.
    Yeah, after going through a major hurricane a few years ago I always have 2 weeks (minimum) of food, water, and fuel on me at all times. I got lucky in that one too, but it was an eye opener how fragile we really are and we literally cannot rely on anything in our lives. , just this past year should have taught anybody that. Also, basic "power outage" skills...how to operate a generator and how to shutoff a main water valve. I can't believe how many people in Texas apparently don't know where their water cutoffs are, but instead b!tch on TikTok when their pipes burst. Just shows how dumbed down we're getting. If there's not an app for it, then theyre helpless

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    Texas is demonstrating a massive failure of GOP core policies,

    and they're lying about it.


    Republicans who lead the state desperately need an excuse for why they’ve failed their citizens to the extent that millions are cold and many of their lives are in genuine peril.

    The failure of the Texas power grid is a prime example of a massive failure not just on the part of Republican leadership in Texas, but of the whole conservative philosophy.

    This is a system that was milk-fed on their conception of free market capitalism and raised to generate maximum profits for a few at the expense of the many.

    In the face of 40+ years of refining that system down to the raw ragged edge

    where any pressure could not help but generate failure,

    they’re not just lying about the cause,

    they’re trying to weaponize their own failure in order to make things worse.

    The cause for the Texas blackout comes from decades of a

    system that was meant to optimize profits by encouraging providers not to plan for emergencies or provide any more power than is needed under usual cir stances.

    That system depends on tight spots in the market to generate es in pricing.

    It’s supposed to operate by generating “inconvenience.”

    That design relies on basic economics:

    When electricity demand increases, so too does the price for power.

    The higher prices force consumers to reduce energy use to prevent cascading failures of power plants that could leave the entire state in the dark, while encouraging power plants to generate more electricity.

    “It’s not convenient,” Professor Hogan said. “It’s not nice. It’s necessary.”

    It’s necessary because that’s the best way to generate maximum profits from the system at a cost of “inconvenience” to those left in the dark.

    the Republican politicians who put this system in place—

    along with conservatives nationwide who would like to use this as a model for every system everywhere—

    don’t want the public looking too closely at how this sausage is being not made.

    That’s why they’ve launched a national “Look, over there!” campaign to point the finger at wind energy.

    The other thing that’s going on … is that wind and solar are almost completely useless when you have a polar vortex, when you have these frigid temperatures.

    The wind turbines freeze, they don’t twist anymore, and

    the solar panels get snow and get ice on them so they’re no good either.

    Moore then goes on to claim that America is using coal “at record levels across the country.”

    Which, unless he means at
    record low levels
    , is a whopper of lie.

    the fact that a larger percentage of the outage in Texas comes from coal plants that are offline than comes from wind turbines out of service.

    coal is less reliable than renewable sources.

    Not only that, it’s far more costly. Which is why no one is even talking about building a new coal plant.

    the lie that wind turbines were freezing was quickly picked up and repeated across the spectrum of Fox News programs.

    Iowa is also regularly subject to the kind of weather that caused Texas’ power grid to buckle this week. Iowa’s wind power is just fine.

    ,
    Tucker Carlson was the logical person to turn the big lie big dial up to 11 when he

    put the blame for the continuing Texas’ blackout solidly on … the Green New Deal,

    a piece of legislation yet to move out of the House and Senate.

    right-wing talkers popping up to call the Green New Deal “deadly” and to point to Texas as “proof” that renewable power doesn’t work.

    Greg Abbott then appeared with Sean Hannity to reinforce every false claim made so far.

    This shows how the Green New Deal would be a deadly deal for the United States of America. …

    Our wind and our solar got shut down, and collectively they were more than 10% of our power grid. …

    As a result, it just shows, that fossil fuels is necessary for the state of Texas, as well as the other states.

    Meanwhile in the real world, the actual production of wind power was actually
    producing 2 gigawatts more than the most optimistic forecast, while natural gas prices were soaring to record highs,

    the only thing in the nation currently thrilling coal mining companies is the instability in the gas market introduced not by Texas’ dependence on wind, but by its failure to require that gas pipelines be buried or insulated to guard against freezing.

    What could make companies think twice about closing their money-losing coal plants?

    A gas market more unstable than at any time in the last two decades.

    Texas has failed because it has built a system that’s designed to always run at the edge of failure.

    That system offers absolutely no incentive to increase reliability or provide protections in the case of an emergency situation.

    It’s a system where the providers get maximum money when the system includes periods of failure and excess demand,

    creating a perverse incentive to not expand so that the system has any buffer between capacity and demand.


    What Abbott and every Fox News talking head is trying to do is make Texas more dependent on the part of the system that has failed the hardest and is most responsible for ing prices.

    They’re just repeating the latest Big Lie over and over, with full knowledge that it is a lie and that it makes absolutely no sense.


    But it does allow them to point the finger of blame away from

    their core beliefs in a maximized profit market and deregulation of ways to fleece the public.


    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016614

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    Texas remained in the frigid grip of winter storms on Wednesday as a fresh arctic blast deepened an electricity supply crisis that has forced millions to endure days without power and heat.

    Pipes froze and burst across the state, and warming centers that had opened lost power. Icicles hung from kitchen faucets in Houston, ambulances in San Antonio were unable to meet the surging demand, and the county government in coastal Galveston called for refrigerated trucks to hold the bodies they expect to find in freezing, powerless houses.
    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/02...m-weather-live

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    every year we have to watch the Park Service "bear video" before we go to the back country
    And I want nothing to do with them, nothing. I only want to see one from a car.
    One time we found some older bear scat and it unnerved all of us a bit.

    We have all experimented with the bear spray and its awesome. It shoots a long way and pushes your hand back, pretty amazing.
    None of us have sprayed ourselves yet. I pictured myself in my sleeping bag, spraying myself accidentally, and then being eaten like a y taco.
    y taco
    thanks for the laugh

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