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    Ammendment

    "and removing heat"

    no
    Yes the fkn air was cold you stupid clown. Cold air removes heat, especially if it is moving rapidly.
    Amendment: It got cold at the gas wells. Did this just totally pass you by? WE HAD COLD WEATHER! Good lord...

    YOu are a fkn clown.

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    You said "gas lines get hotter that are exposed to cold air"

    then you proceeded to say they have their heat removed from them (somehow getting hotter in the process it seems) then become cold (while getting hotter).

    That's some acid trippy .

    I think you were exposed to something toxic, maybe got a face full of AsH3 or something. It's evident you spend an inordinate amount of time on physics forums playing scientist.
    Where did I state this?
    If I did it was a big mistake.
    Point it out.

    The rest is just you playing the same games of changing what I wrote.
    Point it out.
    YOu are such a disingenuous piece of old man.
    Actually you are a lying piece of .

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    Went back and looked.
    Gas in lines get hotter that are exposed to COLD AIR have
    heat removed from them and become cold


    Gas in lines that get hotter because they are pressurized and then get exposed to cold air have heat removed from them and turn cold.
    YOu left a whole part of the sentence out. and in fairness that is THEN... should have been put in instead of jumped over but should be obvious from the last part.
    I can see where you might have misunderstood.
    But you absolutely knew what I was saying on the whole otherwise the rest does not fit in.

    Everything I have stated still stands.
    Gas can freeze. ANd if Ercot had heated their lines etc... this problem would not have occurred.
    Last edited by pgardn; 2 Weeks Ago at 07:40 PM.

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    This is the whole reason they needed heat at the wells.

    Hot concentrated high pressure gas can become cold. Yes the pressure drops but it’s still a dense gas. Gas that is cold and dense can freeze.

    Kind of like your the hot air that comes out of your mouth as you take another L.
    Next post cleared it up.
    You are again in the business of trying to confuse arguments you take the L in.
    So I take it back. You are a disingenuous piece of .

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    Yes.

    Do you know why the temp drops?

    Just watched a video on it. The physics are not exactly what I thought. The can of compressed air example isn't really relevant here. My bad

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    Just watched a video on it. The physics are not exactly what I thought. The can of compressed air example isn't really relevant here. My bad
    No its really cool... literally.
    You reminded me of this with shaving cream in the shower.
    If you shake a can of shaving cream and then expose it to to the hot water from the shower it turns much colder because of a larger temp drop due to heating and shaking and the loss of shaving cream taking heat with it making the can feel very cold. then I remember trying this with something like silly string? and it getting so cold in froze water from the air that "landed" on the can (it was just water from the air condensing to liquid and then freezing. And then it took me back to remembering about compressors and air conditioning and such.

    When you physically feel something happen like your hand get cold unexpectedly it makes a huge impression when you are younger and then a big wtf... and off you go. These kind of unexpected events are really important for adults and kids and are really important as teasers to learn more imo.

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    No its really cool... literally.
    You reminded me of this with shaving cream in the shower.
    If you shake a can of shaving cream and then expose it to to the hot water from the shower it turns much colder because of a larger temp drop due to heating and shaking and the loss of shaving cream taking heat with it making the can feel very cold. then I remember trying this with something like silly string? and it getting so cold in froze water from the air that "landed" on the can (it was just water from the air condensing to liquid and then freezing. And then it took me back to remembering about compressors and air conditioning and such.

    When you physically feel something happen like your hand get cold unexpectedly it makes a huge impression when you are younger and then a big wtf... and off you go. These kind of unexpected events are really important for adults and kids and are really important as teasers to learn more imo.

    I was thinking about the Joule–Thomson effect that I learned in thermodynamics. Those little cans of compressed air (they're really liquid+gas) have a slightly different physical mechanism.

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    Yes the fkn air was cold you stupid clown. Cold air removes heat, especially if it is moving rapidly.
    Amendment: It got cold at the gas wells. Did this just totally pass you by? WE HAD COLD WEATHER! Good lord...

    YOu are a fkn clown.
    The water froze, the gas did not. It didn't get -295

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    Regardless, we need to winterize that , even for extremely rare events.

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    The water froze, the gas did not. It didn't get -295
    Methane freezes at -295 at STP you wad.
    It freezes on the bottom of the ocean as a hyrdrate.
    Do you think the ocean reaches -295 you dolt?

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    Went back and looked.
    Gas in lines get hotter that are exposed to COLD AIR have
    heat removed from them and become cold


    Gas in lines that get hotter because they are pressurized and then get exposed to cold air have heat removed from them and turn cold.
    YOu left a whole part of the sentence out. and in fairness that is THEN... should have been put in instead of jumped over but should be obvious from the last part.
    I can see where you might have misunderstood.
    But you absolutely knew what I was saying on the whole otherwise the rest does not fit in.

    Everything I have stated still stands.
    Gas can freeze. ANd if Ercot had heated their lines etc... this problem would not have occurred.
    Jesus you're a special kind of stupid, the proud kind.

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    Methane freezes at -295 at STP you wad.
    It freezes on the bottom of the ocean as a hyrdrate.
    Do you think the ocean reaches -295 you dolt?
    The gas lines weren't at the bottom of the ocean. Talk about what happens on Mars.

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    Jesus you're a special kind of stupid, the proud kind.
    Yeah this tends to happen when you get in a bind. You tap out.
    And you left the post after out which was a punch to your face again.

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    The gas lines weren't at the bottom of the ocean. Talk about what happens on Mars.
    Then wtf would you state -295 degrees asshole? You are such a hypocrite.

    Where do you find this on the earth ya fckn idiot?
    Do you know what STP means? Natural gas can freeze at temperatures much higher than this at the right pressure.
    And yes water did freeze at wells as it is present in a lot of procedures.

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    Then wtf would you state -295 degrees asshole?

    Where do you find this on the earth ya fckn idiot?
    Do you know what STP means?

    Stone Temple Pilots?

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    Stone Temple Pilots?
    Ever so close by DMC standards.

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    Yeah this tends to happen when you get in a bind. You tap out.
    And you left the post after out which was a punch to your face again.
    You keep declaring victory after admitting how sloppy you are and how wrong you were.

    Of course you were right even though you were wrong, because your internet scientist LARPing ego has to be treated gently.

    "hydrates"

    Water freezes.. oh noes!

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    You keep declaring victory after admitting how sloppy you are and how wrong you were.

    Of course you were right even though you were wrong, because your internet scientist LARPing ego has to be treated gently.

    "hydrates"


    Water freezes.. oh noes!
    Methane hydrates.
    What chemical do you know of that never has water associated with it?
    Water gets into so many things.

    I may have been slightly sloppy.
    But you... are dead wrong.
    And you know it.

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    Methane hydrates.
    What chemical do you know of that never has water associated with it?
    Water gets into so many things.

    I may have been slightly sloppy.
    But you... are dead wrong.
    And you know it.
    Helium freezes at 32 degrees F! Just add water!

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    Helium freezes at 32 degrees F! Just add water!
    Yeah thats about the stupidest statement you have made.
    What does STP mean? Why would you write -295 ya fckn idiot?

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    Yeah thats about the stupidest statement you have made.
    What does STP mean? Why would you write -295 ya fckn idiot?
    STupid Pgardn

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    STupid Pgardn
    And its over.

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    You done spilling gravy all over yourself or do you want to keep LARPing as Bill Nye?

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    internet expert
    A form of armchair expert who gains all their knowledge from the internet and then enlightens others on social media. The accuracy of their source information may be suspect, their analysis and conclusions are likely flawed, but they will shout down anyone who dares to challenge their expertise in the field.

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    ^^^cribbed from the internet

    what's the common word for borrowing without attribution?

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...ernet%20expert

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