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    Meant to throw this out a couple of weeks ago. For some reason, I didn't feel like I would want to watch it. Maybe it was the Netflix promo pic of Borat staring at the camera.
    Anyway, this was well worth watching. Mostly due to the actors from top to bottom. When I watched it, I was thinking they were taking creative liberties, particularly during the scene with Bobby Seale bound and gagged in the courtroom.
    But upon some quick Googling, found that actually happened.

    8/10

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    Still several liberties taken, and Borat's portrayal of Abbie Hoffman felt a little too Messianic for my tastes, but I also wasn't alive back then so maybe it was good.

    Not as annoying as other Aaron Sorkin stuff. 7/10

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    I watched a couple decent films this past week.

    Netflix: -The Vanished- (2020) with Heche and Thomas Jane is, upon reflection a fine film.

    TUBI: -He Was a Quiet Man- (2007) with Christian Slater and Elisha Cuthbert is complex, but complete.

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    Overall, Aaron Sorkin is pretty overrated, but Moneyball and The Social Network are two screenwriting masterpieces.

    This movie looked unbearably out of touch, so I skipped it.

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    Does anyone have any sure fire [movies] to recommend on Netflix or TUBI?

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    I watched a couple decent films this past week.

    Netflix: -The Vanished- (2020) with Heche and Thomas Jane is, upon reflection a fine film.

    TUBI: -He Was a Quiet Man- (2007) with Christian Slater and Elisha Cuthbert is complex, but complete.
    I watched The Vanished based upon your rec. I thought it was pretty ridiculous. The ending kind of saved it but Jane's and Heche's performance were laughable.
    Seems like it could have been a good movie if they didn't try to throw in so many different situations.

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    I watched The Vanished based upon your rec. I thought it was pretty ridiculous. The ending kind of saved it but Jane's and Heche's performance were laughable.
    Seems like it could have been a good movie if they didn't try to throw in so many different situations.
    I thought the same, SfS, until it was over and I recognized the true denouement. I thought it ingenious, went back and viewed it again with the wife. She liked it and we rummaged thru it for the rest of the day.

    And I too thought their performances were overwrought/"ridiculous"/over acting to out act one another as actors, but in light of the truth it made it perfect sense. They had exhausted all 5 steps and were insane. You need to view it again, fellow. 1/4 thru my second viewing with the wife I asked her if she wanted the truth. She did. It makes it a lot more enjoyable. I swear, the first time I watched this I was alone and paused it several times with the intent to just forget it, but I kept going back until I brazened it out till the end, then sat there (at discovery/"did you run the kid?") in amazement.

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    I thought the same, SfS, until it was over and I recognized the true denouement. I thought it ingenious, went back and viewed it again with the wife. She liked it and we rummaged thru it for the rest of the day.

    And I too thought their performances were overwrought/"ridiculous"/over acting to out act one another as actors, but in light of the truth it made it perfect sense. They had exhausted all 5 steps and were insane. You need to view it again, fellow. 1/4 thru my second viewing with the wife I asked her if she wanted the truth. She did. It makes it a lot more enjoyable. I swear, the first time I watched this I was alone and paused it several times with the intent to just forget it, but I kept going back until I brazened it out till the end, then sat there (at discovery/"did you run the kid?") in amazement.
    I took that into consideration and agree that it excuses what seemed like ridiculous lines at the time. But I still say the acting within those different stages is pretty terrible.

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    I watched The Vanished based upon your rec. I thought it was pretty ridiculous. The ending kind of saved it but Jane's and Heche's performance were laughable.
    Seems like it could have been a good movie if they didn't try to throw in so many different situations.
    I agree. I thought it was ridiculous.

    -Yeah, they're really going to let the other couple just keep camping while a child is missing in the area.
    -Yeah, they're really not going to find out more about the child's age, where she goes to school, pull her birth records, etc once she goes missing
    -Oh, a guy found shot in the head in the area? No worries, keep camping.
    -I never thought for a second that the child was ever at the camping grounds. The big reveal wasn't that big.

    The lead detective was the best actor of the movie and his backstory was the only one that I cared about.

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    I agree. I thought it was ridiculous.

    -Yeah, they're really going to let the other couple just keep camping while a child is missing in the area.
    -Yeah, they're really not going to find out more about the child's age, where she goes to school, pull her birth records, etc once she goes missing
    -Oh, a guy found shot in the head in the area? No worries, keep camping.
    -I never thought for a second that the child was ever at the camping grounds. The big reveal wasn't that big.

    The lead detective was the best actor of the movie and his backstory was the only one that I cared about.
    Way too many things to pick apart. Being out in the boat with the other couple for six hours and then somehow after the on the boat, James and Heche make it back to the original campsite in the same day.
    Miranda just drowning without explanation. All the focus on the drug addict without any real need. The survivalist who's out in the woods in a sleeveless shirt with a revolver. Also that none of the cops came across him but Heche and James did.
    Agree that Jason Patrick (the sheriff) was the only decent performance.

    Not to mention that they happened to pick a camp that had a pedophile as the manager, a drug addict as the groundsman, and at the same time a convicted killer had escaped.

    And that in a missing child case, the cops didn't turn over the whole campsite (including the managers hidden room).

    I think there was actually a decent movie to be made here but they missed it.
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    Way too many things to pick apart. Being out in the boat with the other couple for six hours and then somehow after the on the boat, James and Heche make it back to the original campsite in the same day.
    Miranda just drowning without explanation. All the focus on the drug addict without any real need. The survivalist who's out in the woods in a sleeveless shirt with a revolver. Also that none of the cops came across him but Heche and James did.
    He was also a [lost child] a lost soul. The child pornographer had taken him in as a foundling, used him up and then enslaved him when he was no longer desirable. The blanket, the security blanket of the original lost child (found in the dumpster) as (one) of the married couple once again accomplished Step 5 of the grieving process.

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    He was also a [lost child] a lost soul. The child pornographer had taken him in as a foundling, used him up and then enslaved him when he was no longer desirable. The blanket, the security blanket of the original lost child (found in the dumpster) as (one) of the married couple once again accomplished Step 5 of the grieving process.
    It was too much for this movie. They even spent time with him going down to the Sheriffs office to receive a pep talk from Patrick. I didn't get the point. Like much of the movie. Even little like the floating bag that seemed like it was going to be important.

    What about Jane throwing away the bloody hat only to have Heche wearing it the next scene on the canoe?

    And speaking of the hat, how obvious was Jane looking at that thing when the cop was there?

    What's the point of Jane finding the naked photos of Miranda on the camera? Just too much going on.
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    It was too much for this movie. They even spent time with him going down to the Sheriffs office to receive a pep talk from Patrick. I didn't get the point. Like much of the movie. Even little like the floating bag that seemed like it was going to be important.

    What about Patrick throwing away the bloody hat only to have Heche wearing it the next scene on the canoe?

    And speaking of the hat, how obvious was Jane looking at that thing when the cop was there?

    What's the point of Jane finding the naked photos of Miranda on the camera? Just too much going on.
    A lot of good points, fellow.

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    A lot of good points, fellow.
    Anyway...as to a decent movie on Netflix, check out, “I Care a Lot”.

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    Anyway...as to a decent movie on Netflix, check out, “I Care a Lot”.
    I found it, put it on [My List] and will watch either tonight, or, tomorrow. Thanks!

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    Anyway...as to a decent movie on Netflix, check out, “I Care a Lot”.
    Mighty implausible as well. All that midget had to do was bring "Fran" to "Marla," torture her and that'd a been that. Aside from dough that's all Marla really cared about. He'd a known that.

    Nice to see the Witt girl as Dr. Amos. She's usually tied up with Hallmark materiel. She's a doll. A new make-up application helped a lot. She never looked better.

    Cathartic at the last as "Marla" FINALLY get's her's, though I thought the scene was inexplicably shot without clarity, but the result was what was important. Man, I wanted that in' broad to get her's.

    And I know she was in great physical shape, they made sure we knew that before they dumped her in the drink, but she was under water for quite some time, dude.

    All-in-all enjoyable. Those zipper dresses drive me nutty-nuts.

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    Mighty implausible as well. All that midget had to do was bring "Fran" to "Marla," torture her and that'd a been that. Aside from dough that's all Marla really cared about. He'd a known that.

    Nice to see the Witt girl as Dr. Amos. She's usually tied up with Hallmark materiel. She's a doll. A new make-up application helped a lot. She never looked better.

    Cathartic at the last as "Marla" FINALLY get's her's, though I thought the scene was inexplicably shot without clarity, but the result was what was important. Man, I wanted that in' broad to get her's.

    And I know she was in great physical shape, they made sure we knew that before they dumped her in the drink, but she was under water for quite some time, dude.

    All-in-all enjoyable. Those zipper dresses drive me nutty-nuts.
    Yeah...I sure the wondered about that and was sure the dwarf would show her a video of Fran while they had Marla tied up. Also, the fact that they left something to chance when they put her in the car. This is the Russian mafia. They could have just killed her and disappeared the body.

    All that being said, I enjoyed it. Thought the acting was good except maybe for the cab driver who seemed incompetent as in the beginning but yet, he's the go to man for the dwarf.

    And was also super glad she got hers in the end.

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