California law would fine department stores $1,000 for separating toys by gender

[FrostKing]

no no, more than crossdressing.

there have been full on transgender people for millennia.

you dont have to go on hormone therapy or have surgery to be transgender

To your argument the first surgery occurred in 1959

Well that depends. I think the individual needs certain hormone levels otherwise they are just playing dress up

[spurraider21]

To your argument the first surgery occurred in 1959

Well that depends. I think the individual needs certain hormone levels otherwise they are just playing dress up

i just said you dont have to have surgery to be transgender

and what "you think" is one thing... but transgenderism is just defined as people who dont identify with the gender assigned at birth. nothing specifically to do with private parts or hormone levels

[FrostKing]

i just said you dont have to have surgery to be transgender

and what "you think" is one thing... but transgenderism is just defined as people who dont identify with the gender assigned at birth. nothing specifically to do with private parts or hormone levels

I was giving your viewpoint the benefit by bringing science into it. I don't feel comfortable making that mental state/behavior accepted in our children's schools or society at large just based on such a definition.

[spurraider21]

I was giving your viewpoint the benefit by bringing science into it.

you dont understand the science of it

your understanding of science is that sex and gender are synonyms

mainstream psychology has known for decades that this is not the case

[FrostKing]

you dont understand the science of it

your understanding of science is that sex and gender are synonyms

mainstream psychology has known for decades that this is not the case

I agree it exists as does people thinking they are furry animals.

Based on that definition, I'm not allowing that in my schools or society at large. We need to have standards or else it is no longer a society.

[spurraider21]

I agree it exists as does people thinking they are furry animals.

Based on that definition, I'm not allowing that in my schools or society at large. We need to have standards or else it is no longer a society.

nobody is talking about furry animals

we are talking about gender