civil engineers, the dentists of engineers.
Lol "the civil engineers"
The far out fringe
civil engineers, the dentists of engineers.
Yes, you wanker.
Why? I mean, what kind of rakes up a 6 year old thread to spam the same bollocks you post everywhere?I made this post on January 17.
On January 19 the moderator closed the thread. Look at the responses I got. Do you think they were kicking my butt? Why do you think he closed the thread?
I know why he closed the thread, he even ing told you, you mental !
Mod Note
FatFreddy said: ↑The proof that the US government did it is crushing.Necromancing a thread, that was last posted in 6 years ago with even more ridiculous conspiracies.
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No. Just.. No.
The thanks a moron.Thanks for backing me up Spurtacular
Life must be really empty for you to spend this much time arguing with people who’s minds you couldn’t change if you outright paid them.
At some point you should ask yourself what you’ve become. What you’ve accomplished all these years.
You’re wasting your life on this. If anything you’re accomplishing the opposite of what you’re intending to accomplish. You’re actively driving people to believe anything but what comes out of your mouth.
You’re spending hours and hours, maybe even the equivalent of a part time job, convincing zero people. You’ve changed no ones opinion. You’ve educated no one and you can’t get back any of the time you’ve spent on this.
When you near death you’re going to look back at the time you’ve spent spamming message boards and you’re going to regret how little you’ve accomplished in life.
Imagine if you spent this much time learning or doing something real. Like playing an instrument or building something. What a waste of a human being you’ve become.
You really are ing mental. In that y useless brain of yours it doesn't click that you just raked up a six year old dead thread to post your wall of ty spam. There's no pretext you ing imbecile.
Shut the up you .
Shut the up you .They already know the moon missions were not faked and that 9/11 was not an inside job. Even I am not dumb enough to think they are faked - though I am a complete .
Shut the up you .When I see a thread on a forum where there are no s participating and there are only a bunch of clever people talking to each other, it seems that they might be having a measure of success at getting s like me to believe reality. When I see that, I can't resist joining in.
Shut the up you .If I have to deal with real issues, I always look like the I am.
My goal isn't to get them to admit that Apollo was a hoax because I know it wasn't. I'm just a and need attention. I also know 9/11 was not an inside job. I just want it to be clear to all the viewers and lurkers that I am a complete who doesn't even believe my own arguments.
You are just getting your ing pathetic arse kicked -
http://www.politicalforum.com/index....ost-1072491855
What kind of blind says this below is a ing bubble??????
1. Tell us about the object that is clearly NOT a bubble, is white jagged and rotating!
That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item.
Yes, you useless .
What kind of ing moron posts the same identical 12 years later. You need a shrink you sad .Here's a thread I started back in 2009.
All obliterated on this blog you total .It had the same info in post #1 that this thread has.
Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com)
Good, if only they did that for every piece of total e you posted. You're talking to the wrong person here, you .The moderator deleted all of my posts but left the thread. You can see where people quoted me but all the posts from which they quoted are gone. Look for this thread...
"We Never Went to the Moon"
... on this page.
https://www.booktalk.org/politics-cu...ry-f9-500.html
It has over 15,000 views.
I think you are a deluded .I think that thread was making hoax-believers out of a lot of viewers. That's why the moderator removed all the links to the hoax proof from the thread and blocked me from posting. What do you think?
From that thread, not one person agreed with you and this little gem -
"The sheer magnitude of the cover-up necessary to keep something like a faked moon landing secret is beyond the capability of the US government.
Set workers, camera men, script writers, actors, set and prop makers, lighting crew, special effects people, plus all the people at mission control from Florida and Texas, most of the NASA personal, plus the president and his general staff would all have been in on the secret and need to keep quiet for decades."
This alone is unfathomable.
It's far worse than that, as like the you are, you claim there is the whole of the current NASA in on it, plus supposedly anyone who has ever come into contact. Like a , you dismiss all the LROC images and people and like a you never address any of this.
The American government couldn't cover up Watergate, Monicagate or the Trump was doing to get him impeached for. You ing moron if you think they're hooked up enough to bury this, 911 and any other you dream up.
You are a who raked up a dead 6 year old thread.
I am obviously a .I'm not American you ing imbecile.A patriotic American in denial would have slinked away a long time ago.
Prove it .He only cares whether he gets paid.
Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com)
5. Miscellaneous: ".anyone who sees it will see that he's just a paid sophist."
This is probably the worst one of all. For this enormous diversionary statement, he gets to ignore every single thing written by an expert in almost every aspect of the Apollo Missions. He gets to ignore a concise website detailing debunks for almost all his total crap. He gets to ignore every post made where he always get his ass handed to him. The basis for this is his "credibility test".
It isn't a blunder you stinking turd. It is coming diagonally at the camera. His response including where he already kicked your arse from 2017, you useless of a human being -Hey FatFreddy - I know I'm a , but please show me why again. In post #101 you didn't address my moronic claim about Betamax's non blunder.
One of the good things about believing and being able to properly define my analysis is that I don't actually forget anything. The ice particle appears bigger because it is coming diagonally towards the camera. This has always been my position.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-chinese-spacewalk-was-faked.578673/#post-1072491855TRUMP SCIENCE ADVISOR DENIES APOLLO MOON LANDINGS
EVER HAPPENED | Page 20 | PoliticalForum.com - Forum for US and Intl Politics
"1. Multiple pieces of debris all coming from the hatch at various angles can't be bubbles.
2. The main "bubble" by the helmet is flat, white, rotating and is exiting angled towards the camera.
3. Neutral buoyancy is achieved by weights not idiotic uncited wave blowers.
4. The motion of the flag is completely impossible in water. Thanks to Descartes for the video that finally nailed this.
5. The pair of you are afraid to answer basic points and questions.
The OP seemed hung up on the space debris issue and not the hogwash you claim. Can you read? From that thread!!
"Remember, this is freefall in a vacuum, and what happens in that sort of environment is very different from what we're used to here on Earth. As I mentioned above, just because it's weird doesn't mean it's su ious. Because the cable is weightless, the shape it takes is primarily determined by the shape it had when it was stowed. In this case, the shape of the cable is forcing it into a position "above" the bar to which it's tethered. That's why the cable looks like it's floating."
The response from the OP:-
Good explanation. I consider the cable thing properly addressed now.
SHAPE MEMORY!!!
If it's not really expanding and just getting closer to the camera, the same thing could happen with a bubble.Finally admitting the change in size. Now we both know such a size change in a bubble is actually impossible in such a short "depth" change were it in water. It just won't do that in any cir stances. Size is related directly to pressure.
So, we know things coming towards a camera, especially a wide angled lens will grow in size. There is the very simple explanation for why the ice increases in size.
BUT, and it's a big but, we now have the "bubble" which you have insisted for numerous years as rising vertically, is now wandering off diagonally and at an angle, that even with currents affecting its rise, is beyond what one would expect from this lone "bubble"!
Once again the elephant in the room is ignored:-
Once again
That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item.
This is a classic example of hand-waving.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-waving
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Hand-waving (with various spellings) is a pejorative label for attempting to be seen as effective – in word, reasoning, or deed – while actually doing nothing effective or substantial.[1] It is most often applied to debate techniques that involve fallacies, misdirection and the glossing over of details.[2]
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Handwaving is frequently used in low-quality debate, including political campaigning and commentary, issue-based advocacy, advertising and public relations, tabloid journalism, opinion pieces, Internet memes, and informal discussion and writing.
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This is a classic example of hand-waving.He has the at ude that he debunked this anomaly...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-waving
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Hand-waving (with various spellings) is a pejorative label for attempting to be seen as effective – in word, reasoning, or deed – while actually doing nothing effective or substantial.[1] It is most often applied to debate techniques that involve fallacies, misdirection and the glossing over of details.[2]
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Handwaving is frequently used in low-quality debate, including political campaigning and commentary, issue-based advocacy, advertising and public relations, tabloid journalism, opinion pieces, Internet memes, and informal discussion and writing.
You ing imbecile. That thread is nothing to do with the jump salute. What a total you are.The Apollo Moon Jump Salute Refute
...with this thread.
You already asked me that you ing imbecile.Do you agree with him?
http://www.politicalforum.com/index....ost-1072491153Don't forget that I am the stupid who thinks the Chinese spacewalk was in water.
It does. Your selective and inept observations are the problem. But lets ignore all the other object firing out of the hatch, because that is exactly what you are good out. It's a very dishonest way to debate.
All of them are going in random directions, none of them look like a bubble including your main and obviously clueless claim.
You have zero credibility, but your evasion and ridiculous observations are just the icing on the cake.
Now fully explain this.
9. Tell us about the idiotic statements you made:-
Number 1:
"The bubble hugs the astronaut`s visor and then goes straight up"
Number 2:
"A piece of debris would go straight along it's original trajectory."
Your "bubble" goes "straight up" / A piece of debris would "go straight". - Explain to me how these two are different!
This post, quoted and ignored:
I don't care whether you mentioned it or not! In the past you have mentioned it numerous times and have failed to identify by what factor. During the flag waving sections which are consistently at the same speed, the flag rotates with ZERO force impeding it. This is moronic to claim it is in water - a viscous medium with drag. Now by this very token it is irrefutable that either the WHOLE film is speeded up the same factor or it has not. When it is slowed down to 25%:-
Watch the video:
The flag is STILL moving in ways that are impossible in water and the astronaut is now barely moving! The scientific method looks at all the evidence not the idiotic "look, the flag is fluttering" fragment!
1. HOW fast has it been sped up?
2. Are you saying this section hasn't been sped up but the one just prior where the flag pole is PUSHING a flat fabric is?
I'm still waiting for you to address this:-
3. Show your scientific methodology as to why it is an anomaly! Your opinion is less than most and not even close to scientific.
5. The other "anomalies" have gone away with simple observational evidence, your lack of response to this fundamental question is most telling. You are checkmated. The objects fly in a whole myriad of directions. Explain this with a valid and workable reason.
6. The guy who made your main film:-
Says your stupid "bubble" changes direction! (I dare you to dispute this.)
911 was not an inside job
The Moon landing was not hoaxed.
This is where you make the absurd claim that he was "got at" when there are dozens of people still making idiotic films and claims on these subjects with far more views! Your witness disagrees with you, just like Chomsky.
Here is a further credibility test.
Only 3 seconds before the idiotic "fluttering" video which is being moved by his hand ridiculously fast in water, we see the flag being PUSHED edge first. In water, it is absolutely absurd to suggest that is possible in a viscous medium with drag!
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Dust free sand strawman - debunked
So, I just put together another gif. It shows the following:-
- The path is diagonal not vertical.
- The object is small to begin with.
- It gains at least 400% in under 2 metres(nearer 2 feet! but being generous).
Image 1 circling the ice particle as it becomes visible.
Image 2 circling the ice particle as it disappears - last frame visible.
Image 3 showing the two together CLEARLY showing the discrepancy denied by Scott/Cosmored!
Now the animation showing the path:
1. Tell us about the object that is clearly NOT a bubble, is white jagged and rotating!
That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item.
2. Tell us about this object that goes DIAGONALLY and gains 4 times in size in under a couple of feet!
TRUMP SCIENCE ADVISOR DENIES APOLLO MOON LANDINGS EVER HAPPENED | Page 20 | PoliticalForum.com - Forum for US and Intl Politics
"1. Multiple pieces of debris all coming from the hatch at various angles can't be bubbles.
2. The main "bubble" by the helmet is flat, white, rotating and is exiting angled towards the camera.
3. Neutral buoyancy is achieved by weights not idiotic uncited wave blowers.
4. The motion of the flag is completely impossible in water.
5. The pair of you are afraid to answer basic points and questions.So, I just put together another gif. It shows the following:-
- The path is diagonal not vertical.
- The object is small to begin with.
- It gains at least 400% in under 2 metres(nearer 2 feet! but being generous).
Image 1 circling the ice particle as it becomes visible.
Image 2 circling the ice particle as it disappears - last frame visible.
Image 3 showing the two together CLEARLY showing the discrepancy denied by Scott/Cosmored!
Now the animation showing the path:
1. Tell us about the object that is clearly NOT a bubble, is white jagged and rotating!
That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item.
2. Tell us about this object that goes DIAGONALLY and gains 4 times in size in under a couple of feet!
Tell us about the object that is clearly NOT a bubble, is white jagged and rotating!Betamax kicked my stupid ignorant arse and I look like a real horse's a-s when I ignore this.
That looks NOTHING like a bubble and EVERYTHING like a flat jagged piece of rotating ice. A bubble in areas where people are breathing is almost impossible to be a singular item.
Just so we’re clear you’re content to argue with people you think are shills?
You’re going to waste all this time fighting people who you think get paid to lie online?
So in your mind fighting people that have only the goal of posting misinformation is a good use of your free time.
How does that way of thinking make you look more intelligent than them? You’re wasting your life fighting people that you can never change.
You need a real hobby. I’ve never seen someone waste as much of their life as we’re seeing you waste. It’s pathetic. You need to take a step back and reevaluate your life and what you doing spending all this time here and on other forums. You should probably also discuss this with a therapist. Perhaps it’s an addiction? Why would you hang out spamming a place where everyone hates you. Literally no one here wants you here.
You have a serious problem that needs to be addressed.
What do you think of your own actions. You’re showing a real compulsive disorder by constantly seeking out places to spam. How can you wake up every day and justify putting your time into this.
Are you disabled? Incapable of leaving the house? Agoraphobic?
What would compel someone to do what you’re doing?
Do you have a job? I’m guessing single with no kids. No spouse would tolerate the amount of time you’re putting into something with zero return.
You stated this.
So no. No one has been awakened.I figure that they'll wake up to the fact that the US government is capable of telling big lies if they see the clear proof that Apollo was faked
You say you’ve changed peoples minds.
Name names. Who here is now a believer?
I’ve taken no stance here but now I’m a shill?
Some people aren’t happy unless they’re miserable or being mistreated so they can play the victim. That seems like you. No life partner, no kids, no one loves you and everyone here hates you. Your hobby is misery and spreading fringe propaganda. That is your legacy.
Pretty embarrassing if you ask me. You’re probably still south of 60. I hope. There’s probably still time to have a real life. Do something you can be proud of instead of seeking out confrontation.
Think about it this way. When you die no one here will reflect on your existence here. No one on any forum will give a about all this time you’ve put into posting. In fact most people you’ve encountered online will be happy once you fall off the face of the earth.
That should tell you something about what you’ve accomplished over the last few years. Anyone with any shred of intelligence would see there’s no value in what you’re doing and make a lifestyle change.
At some point you’re going to regret having spent so much time making enemies and wasting your time.
LMFAO at this ing lunatic.
There is simply no amount of reasoning or logic that will convince you about a single solitary thing. Now you want to elevate your stature to some er who is so important he requires a ing "team" to handle him. I could point out how simple it would be for the ebil gubment to send someone over to take you out, Hollywood style, or to lean on you the way you claim for absolutely anyone who contradicts you - but as I said, logic doesn't get through. The "shill" team leader obviously must also think you're a and wants to torment you.
Do they, that's comforting for you. They still think you are a though.The people from Latin America whom I know here who have been affected by US intervention in their countries like what I'm doing.
As far as I can tell and I may have missed some -
You think cars can do 200mpg on petrol/gas.
You think the ISS may be faked.
You think the Mars missions were faked.
You think China faked their spacewalk.
You think US foreign policy is dominated by nefarious doings.
You think the Holocaust was exaggerated or faked.
You think the Apollo Moon landings were faked.
You think 911 was orchestrated by the US government.
You think Vaccines cause Autism and are dangerous.
You think Covid 19 is faked.
You think JFK was killed by someone else.
You think Paul McCartney died and was replaced.
You think Chemtrails are real.
That's the main ones, but I'm fairly sure you have a whole barrage of other bull claims that you don't post about. I mean seriously, get a ing life you paranoid nutter. It's bad enough believing this monumental garbage, but you actively post it on dozens of message boards and defend every single point at all costs to the limit of anyone's patience. Then you label every single person who spends time trying to ing educate you as "paid sophists" or "shills".
You are mentally ill and need to see a shrink. Oh, and you're also a .
Seriously, if this is a troll job with one dude arguing with himself, it's pretty impressive.
If it's not it's crazy.
Blakey- pops in for about the 50th time to tell it how it is. Walk away dip , show me how it's done.
I'm popping in for an lol, not a 20 paragraph breakdown about what someone else does on the internets.
You're an idiot
Lots of popping Blakey- , can you not just watch, do you have to post? Is it an affliction? Walk away, show me how to do it.
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To be honest, it's difficult to tell what bull you believe about it, but those videos suggest it is all some major fabrication and easily treatable, results are doctored and some weirdo conspiracy is going on.
Pretty much right up your imbecile avenue.
No head, it amounts to libel when written - English teacher??? But libel only has relevance when the person is not anonymous and it is deliberate defamation of character. In your case - you're a anyway so that would be a bit hard to do. Besides, my comment is completely accurateShowing stuff out of context amounts to slander.
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This is how to do it:
Lol fatfreddy is a loser.
That's all you have to do.
Blakey- . All this gobbing off about what I'm doing whilst you are doing the same thing doesn't quite work for me. Now you keep dipping in like a wit loser, to tell me how much of a loser I am. Well thanks. I think you may be confusing me with someone who really could give a squadron of flying s what you have to say. Thanks for bumping the thread.
Walk away show me how it's done.
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