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    A new study suggests that a particular mix of personality traits and unconscious cognition -- the ways our brains take in basic information -- is a strong predictor for extremist views across a range of beliefs, including nationalism and religious fervour. Across all ideologies investigated by the researchers, people who endorsed "extreme pro-group action," including ideologically-motivated violence against others, had a surprisingly consistent psychological profile.

    Subtle difficulties with complex mental processing may subconsciously push people towards extreme doctrines that provide clearer, more defined explanations of the world, making them susceptible to toxic forms of dogmatic and authoritarian ideologies. The extremist mind -- a mixture of conservative and dogmatic psychological signatures -- is cognitively cautious, slower at perceptual processing and has a weaker working memory. This is combined with impulsive personality traits that seek sensation and risky experiences.

    So, it is scientifically proven that extremists such as maga and/or religious people have difficulties and are slower at processing complex problems, have a weaker working memory and more likely to believe in conspiracy theories.

    It is a complex read so most likely the group I mentioned won't read or not understand it.

    https://royalsocietypublishing.org/d...rstb.2020.0424

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    Smells of derp all the way, so it would confirm him as a stupid extremist.

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    A new study suggests that a particular mix of personality traits and unconscious cognition -- the ways our brains take in basic information -- is a strong predictor for extremist views across a range of beliefs, including nationalism and religious fervour. Across all ideologies investigated by the researchers, people who endorsed "extreme pro-group action," including ideologically-motivated violence against others, had a surprisingly consistent psychological profile.

    Subtle difficulties with complex mental processing may subconsciously push people towards extreme doctrines that provide clearer, more defined explanations of the world, making them susceptible to toxic forms of dogmatic and authoritarian ideologies. The extremist mind -- a mixture of conservative and dogmatic psychological signatures -- is cognitively cautious, slower at perceptual processing and has a weaker working memory. This is combined with impulsive personality traits that seek sensation and risky experiences.

    So, it is scientifically proven that extremists such as maga and/or religious people have difficulties and are slower at processing complex problems, have a weaker working memory and more likely to believe in conspiracy theories.

    It is a complex read so most likely the group I mentioned won't read or not understand it.

    https://royalsocietypublishing.org/d...rstb.2020.0424
    There are people out there that are engineers and programmers that have extreme conservative views and believe in conspiracies. You would think those people would be able to process complex problems since their jobs require it but still ended up with extreme views. How would you explain those people ending up with extreme views?

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    There are people out there that are engineers and programmers that have extreme conservative views and believe in conspiracies. You would think those people would be able to process complex problems since their jobs require it but still ended up with extreme views. How would you explain those people ending up with extreme views?
    Royal Society Publishing is British. I am guessing Islam is a larger part of their data than MAGA.

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    Royal Society Publishing is British. I am guessing Islam is a larger part of their data than MAGA.
    Fundamentalist Islam and maga are both very conservative movements

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    Fundamentalist Islam and maga are both very conservative movements
    MAGA is more nationalist than religious, when comparing to Islam. I think many Republicans that turned their back on Trump in 2020 election were rural religious.

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    What does it say about creating sock puppets online to support your own positions?

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    MAGA is more nationalist than religious, when comparing to Islam. I think many Republicans that turned their back on Trump in 2020 election were rural religious.
    I think you got that backwards... IIRC, he slipped greatly in the suburbs/among educated voters.

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    Fundamentalist Islam and maga are both very conservative movements


    It's amusing how the echo chamber here never challenges claims from the members.

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    What does it say about creating sock puppets online to support your own positions?
    Who is derp?

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    He said Fundamentalist Islam.

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    He said Fundamentalist Islam.
    If he said "fundamentalist Christian" would you draw such a distinction?

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    Yes, fundamentalist Muslims. Renowned supporters of secularism, lgbt and abortion rights

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    If he said "fundmentalist Christian" would you draw such a distinction?
    Sure. I would surmise he's not referring to the vast majority of Christians.

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    That the Republican Party is islamophobic doesn’t change that fundamentalist Islam is conservative in nature. Part of that is nationalism and similar sentiments of ingroup superiority. The parties might not be compatible (not that there is a fundamentalist Muslim party in the US), but that does not mean they are not both conservative

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    IMO, while there might be some overlap in certain areas (ie: Allah), I just don't think your average American muslim is really anywhere near as fundamentalist as an Iranian muslim, for example.

    Just the mere fact that the Iranian is living in a theocracy that has harsh penalties for infidels makes me think there's probably ample difference between them.

    And I'm not even talking about the radicalized kind here.

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    Yes, fundamentalist Muslims. Renowned supporters of secularism, lgbt and abortion rights
    In a survey of American Muslims, 0% identified as lesbian or gay. Here’s the story behind that statistic

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/28/us/lg...pride-progress

    Blacks are lukewarm to gay marriage, but most say businesses must provide wedding services to gay couples

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...o-gay-couples/

    Not all political affiliation is about supporting causes of that movement. It's as much, if not more about that movement supporting them. This is true for both sides.

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    IMO, while there might be some overlap in certain areas (ie: Allah), I just don't think your average American muslim is really anywhere near as fundamentalist as an Iranian muslim, for example.

    Just the mere fact that the Iranian is living in a theocracy that has harsh penalties for infidels makes me think there's probably ample difference between them.

    And I'm not even talking about the radicalized kind here.
    There's a difference between a fundamentalist and an extremist. Unlike the Bible, there's no Pope to use hand-wavium for political pressure relief. There are some fundamentalists who are also reformists but still believe in the fundamental teachings of the Qu'ran.

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    There's a difference between a fundamentalist and an extremist. Unlike the Bible, there's no Pope to use hand-wavium for political pressure relief. There are some fundamentalists who are also reformists but still believe in the fundamental teachings of the Qu'ran.
    Still cannot admit when wrong.

    The US Islams as a whole don't want their religion to go back to when Abu was Calphi 1300 years ago like the Salalfists do which is what is taught at madrasa from North Africa to Pakistan.

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    That the Republican Party is islamophobic doesn’t change that fundamentalist Islam is conservative in nature. Part of that is nationalism and similar sentiments of ingroup superiority. The parties might not be compatible (not that there is a fundamentalist Muslim party in the US), but that does not mean they are not both conservative
    So they just magically lose their religious beliefs when they come to the US.

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    So they just magically lose their religious beliefs when they come to the US.
    Islam is not monolithic, dumbass.

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    Still cannot admit when wrong.

    The US Islams as a whole don't want their religion to go back to when Abu was Calphi 1300 years ago like the Salalfists do which is what is taught at madrasa from North Africa to Pakistan.
    The US Muslims do not have liberal values like your run of-the mill liberal democrat. Their values align more closely with the right, even though they vote left. In fact, many minorities, especially immigrants will support the left because of what the left can do for them. It's not about the moral values of the left. It's about how easy the left is to guilt into submission via social media pressure. So from that standpoint, perhaps a lot of those who purport to support the left are conservative, since a fair amount of self preservation instinct defines conservatism.

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    Still cannot admit when wrong.

    The US Islams as a whole don't want their religion to go back to when Abu was Calphi 1300 years ago like the Salalfists do which is what is taught at madrasa from North Africa to Pakistan.
    Islam is not monolithic, dumbass.
    Fuzzy

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    It's funny how the echo chamber here does the handoff in the relay race to a huge L.

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