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    Yeah.
    Huh? DJ wanted to trade jerseys with him?

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    Spurs net rating in the 4th only = 2.8. Placing them 10th in the league.
    Spurs net rating for the whole game = 0.2. Placing them 13th in the league.

    https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/adva...eason&Period=4

    Spurs +/- in the 4th only = 0.6. Placing them 10th in the league.
    Spurs +/- for the whole game = 0.0. Placing them 15th in the league.

    https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/trad...eason&Period=4

    These numbers would be a lot better without the deep bench ing everything up.

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    So it was, but I have no screenshot = (
    Wow, forreal? Got a replay or something? I thought they were cool with each other

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    Nah, definitely lol. Great comeback though.

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    God I hope this doesn’t mean Rudy is starting from here on out..
    Smanic or Vassell should start.

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    Watching the young ones finding their way is a fun

    they are about 3 young tall PFs/small centers away from being potentially something good

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    Spurs net rating in the 4th only = 2.8. Placing them 10th in the league.
    Spurs net rating for the whole game = 0.2. Placing them 13th in the league.

    https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/adva...eason&Period=4

    Spurs +/- in the 4th only = 0.6. Placing them 10th in the league.
    Spurs +/- for the whole game = 0.0. Placing them 15th in the league.

    https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/trad...eason&Period=4

    These numbers would be a lot better without the deep bench ing everything up.
    Actually Spurs have the 5th best bench in scoring. It’s the 1st and 3rd quarters with the starters slow start that gets them in the hole.

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    I'll summon my guy Dejounte just to make sure I'm looking at the right thing;

    But per this stats page, https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/trad...eason&Period=4, the Spurs are 10th in the league in win% of the 4th Q. I don't remember whether this was the criteria used in the tweet/stat that I'm remembering (it had them #12 then, IIRC), but if it is, looks like they're up two spots.

    And yeah, garbage time makes the stat not really meaningful for deep analysis, but it's still good at a glance to give an impression of a team: an unclutch team is likely to be pretty far down 4th quarter stat lists, and vice-versa. It's no wonder a team like Portland is ahead of us, for example. And for the argument being made (Padre claiming Spurs were the worst 4th Q team in the league), it's good enough, tbh.
    The Spurs are now 10th in 4th quarter margin at +0.6, and this post I made 4 days ago shows that the Spurs were 13th at +0.4 at the time. The 4th quarters since then have gone -2 (PHI), -10 (DET), +20 (CHI). That +8, spread over the 37 games the Spurs have played this season, accounts for the rise of 0.2.

    For reference, the Spurs are 25th in 1st quarter scoring margin per game (-2.5), 1st in the 2nd quarter (+4.2), 25th in the 3rd quarter (-1.4), and 13th in the 4th quarter (+0.4).
    So I was about right, tonight's 4th quarter, worth almost +0.5 by itself, accounts for the change. It's more than I thought: if the Spurs had gone even in the 4th tonight they would have been around 14th or 15th in average 4th quarter margin.

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    Actually Spurs have the 5th best bench in scoring. It’s the 1st and 3rd quarters with the starters slow start that gets them in the hole.
    Deep bench. Not the regular bench.

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    White and DJM were huge clutch at the end.

    White haters done crawled back in their corner.

    DDR can just stay away. Its more fun not watching his stink foul things up
    Agreed...games like this teach our young guys how to win...I can't see us relying on predictable DeMar ball to make a come from behind gritty win in the 4th vs any competent team...once our young guys learn how to win close tough games and have that confidence, we will start to look better

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    Spurs net rating in the 4th only = 2.8. Placing them 10th in the league.
    Spurs net rating for the whole game = 0.2. Placing them 13th in the league.

    https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/adva...eason&Period=4

    Spurs +/- in the 4th only = 0.6. Placing them 10th in the league.
    Spurs +/- for the whole game = 0.0. Placing them 15th in the league.

    https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/trad...eason&Period=4

    These numbers would be a lot better without the deep bench ing everything up.
    Thanks, D, this is exactly what I was looking for. Confirms what I thought, they're a few places up. Nice to see, and yeah, that Weatherspoon-led collapse still haunts me

    The Spurs are now 10th in 4th quarter margin at +0.6, and this post I made 4 days ago shows that the Spurs were 13th at +0.4 at the time. The 4th quarters since then have gone -2 (PHI), -10 (DET), +20 (CHI). That +8, spread over the 37 games the Spurs have played this season, accounts for the rise of 0.2.

    So I was about right, tonight's 4th quarter, worth almost +0.5 by itself, accounts for the change. It's more than I thought: if the Spurs had gone even in the 4th tonight they would have been around 14th or 15th in average 4th quarter margin.
    Thanks for the breakdown. Good to see. Let's hope the Spurs can continue to put out these solid defense 4th quarters.

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    Agreed...games like this teach our young guys how to win...I can't see us relying on predictable DeMar ball to make a come from behind gritty win in the 4th vs any competent team...once our young guys learn how to win close tough games and have that confidence, we will start to look better
    Gotta figure a way to use LMA and DDR salaries for better fitting pieces before they can hope to challenge.
    It could happen but re-upping DDR or not making the right moves at this moment could make a world of difference and make or break the path forward

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    Gotta love this photo. Reminds me of vintage Spurs photos...

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    Gotta love this photo. Reminds me of vintage Spurs photos...
    Is this the Q super spreader?

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    Gotta love this photo. Reminds me of vintage Spurs photos...
    I feel like Patty is doing everything as humanly possible to be the absolute face of the franchise not only on the court but off as well.

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    when Jakob Poeltl is your top scorer, you ain't winning the game
    only reading the thread in the morning can be really amusing at times

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    Should have waited for the game to end...

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    only reading the thread in the morning can be really amusing at times
    nothing better than a game thread where the Spurs were horrible for three quarters and then turn it around ... pure gold

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    I feel like Patty is doing everything as humanly possible to be the absolute face of the franchise not only on the court but off as well.
    Patty knows how to get another 50 from this front office tbh

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    Spurs would be 3rd or 4th if not for some stupid ing losses

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    Patty knows how to get another 50 from this front office tbh
    He's the equivalent to the office brown noser.

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    Should have waited for the game to end...

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    Shame I missed it. Looks like a pretty exciting game.

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    Shame I missed it. Looks like a pretty exciting game.
    You should watch the game still! You can get it on a page like https://nbafullhd . com/ . I guarantee the first 2-3 quarters will be easier to stomach, knowing the final outcome, than they were to watch live

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