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    Like exstatic said, Bouk had an abnormally high usage. Of course he would have more mid-range twos, he took more shots overall.


    Go further and do the other shot types:

    Keon
    3.4 near the rim per game
    3.9 mid-range per game
    1.8 3's per game

    Bouknight
    5.3 near the rim per game
    4.3 mid-range per game
    5 3's per game


    Don't leave that out.
    FWIW, not a big fan of either prospect.

    Bouknight for me is cleary the better shooter/scorer of the 2, at least right now.
    But there is a big difference between playing within yourself because of your Offensive limitations and seeking out the difficult play/shot because you get to score/clown on your opponent.

    Maybe it's unfair to put Bouk in that latter category (and if the Spurs don't see that as an issue, I'm onboard) but those guys don't tend to make winning/simple basketball plays consistently when the bulk of the game is being decided.

    They may hit a game winner every now and then because of their moxy/gusto but what happened in the first 47 minutes leading up to it?
    Isn't that the thing we accuse DDR of doing on the regular?

    That's my reticence.

    Streaky, tough shot hunters/makers who aren't overly efficient, are below average/shy away from 3s and who pound the air out of the ball.

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    Yeah, you're pretty much correct. Don't worry about it.
    Yeah. Didn't think a simple comment that was essentially an opinion would be such a trigger. 🙄

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    I think Chad Ford has the most intel based Big Board , it is my understanding that he really does not watch film that much so his board is not influenced by personal opinion.

    He thinks Barnes, Wagner, Mitc , Keon is a top 10 lock.

    Next tier is J. Johnson, Giddie, Sengun, Moody, Garuba, Kispert.

    My prediction

    SAC - J. Johnson
    NOP - Moody
    CHA - Sengun

    Giddie , Garuba and Kispert available for Spurs. Both Giddie and Garuba are good prospects Giddie has the ceiling of the ideal playoff initiator and Garuba as the ideal versatile playoff defender.

    Although Kispert is the kind of player spurs are always trying to get in free agency Bojan/Morris.

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    I feel like Wagner's going to fall out of the top 10. GMs are looking for stars and he doesn't project to be one, and lottery GMs are generally trying to save their jobs by going flashy.

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    I think Chad Ford has the most intel based Big Board , it is my understanding that he really does not watch film that much so his board is not influenced by personal opinion.

    He thinks Barnes, Wagner, Mitc , Keon is a top 10 lock.

    Next tier is J. Johnson, Giddie, Sengun, Moody, Garuba, Kispert.

    My prediction

    SAC - J. Johnson
    NOP - Moody
    CHA - Sengun

    Giddie , Garuba and Kispert available for Spurs. Both Giddie and Garuba are good prospects Giddie has the ceiling of the ideal playoff initiator and Garuba as the ideal versatile playoff defender.

    Although Kispert is the kind of player spurs are always trying to get in free agency Bojan/Morris.
    Is Chad's BB tier based or Intel based these days? I knew it used to be Intel based when he was at espn but I wasn't sure now that he's behind his own private pay wall.

    Also, I agree with Mr. Body on Wagner... I think he falls because he's not flashy and some GM's think he won't be a star. (I think those GM's are wrong but that bodes well for the Spurs).

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    Spurs will most likely pass on Wagner for a 6-4 shooting guard.

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    Spurs will most likely pass on Wagner for a 6-4 shooting guard.



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    I would like to grab a young athletic forward/center. The Jackson kid looks nice.

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    I would like to grab a young athletic forward/center. The Jackson kid looks nice.
    Limited ceiling. He’s a rim runner/shot blocker, nothing more. Some team will draft him too high, I just hope it’s not us.

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    Wagner falling a little because he's not flashy is a scenario I can see happening, although in that same vein it might be Kispert too.

    I'd be happy with the less-than-dramatic moves of adding two Germans in the off season: Wagner through the draft and Isaac Bonga as a low risk cheap free agent.

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    Second Round Pick.



    I like Jeremiah Earl Robinson as a quality well rounded 4 out of Villanova if heís around.

    Julian Champaigne from St. Johnís for shooting and some upside as a scorer.

    Vrenz for shooting and passing as a mobile forward.

    Anyone have their favorites?

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    I like Jeremiah Earl Robinson as a quality well rounded 4 out of Villanova if he’s around.

    Julian Champaigne from St. John’s for shooting and some upside as a scorer.

    Vrenz for shooting and passing as a mobile forward.

    Anyone have their favorites?
    I'm hoping Trey Murphy drops and we can grab him...

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    Spurs will most likely pass on Wagner for a 6-4 shooting guard.
    That we'll play at the 4.

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    ^ Ha. Well, he can’t shoot from the outside so they have to play him at the 4!

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    Iím not that high on Giddey, either. Just look at last yearís version in Deni Avdija. He looked pretty awful for the Wizards.
    It seems a bit early to call Avdija a bust -- he looked pretty good before suffering a bad season-ending injury.

    Sure wish the Spurs had him going forward.


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    I like Jeremiah Earl Robinson as a quality well rounded 4 out of Villanova if he’s around.

    Julian Champaigne from St. John’s for shooting and some upside as a scorer.

    Vrenz for shooting and passing as a mobile forward.

    Anyone have their favorites?
    I'm hoping for Ibou Dianko Badji myself.

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    Limited ceiling. He’s a rim runner/shot blocker, nothing more. Some team will draft him too high, I just hope it’s not us.
    Why limited? He has a decent shot, footwork and handle.

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    I’ve seen Badji, Bassey, and Queta linked to us in the second round. I don’t see center as our most pressing issue. It’s not like we’re just now having to move on from LMA. I’d love to find someone who can shoot from the outside, at any position other than point guard, and has some other potential skill, like passing, defense, isn’t a ball hog, whatever.

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    Jalen Johnson or Moody, don't care about any other scrub in that range.

    Buford and Wrong should resign on the spot if they waste #12 on a journeymen like Kispert

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    Why limited? He has a decent shot, footwork and handle.
    The problem with evaluating draft talent is assuming that an ability at one level will transfer upwards to the next level. The only two that are sure fire uptransfers are rebounding and 3 point shooting. That’s it. Everything else is a crapshoot, including playmaking.

    Don’t you think that if talent evaluators thought those abilities would transfer that he’d be a top 5 pick?

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    I'm hoping Trey Murphy drops and we can grab him...
    Yeah, that would be great, too, if he lasts.

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    JT Thor...this is an interesting wildcard. I think I read that he was projected to be a lottery pick next yearÖ Very curious to see where he starts ending up on the boards.

    https://phenomhoopreport.com/nba-dra...burns-jt-thor/

    Edit: without being able to see what his weaknesses are, he looks, perhaps, like exactly what we are looking for: solid 3 point shooter, great form, can likely guard either forward position, great athleticism, crazy wingspan, still developing, potential to be a solid defender.

    Interesting.
    Last edited by The Truth #6; 06-07-2021 at 05:10 PM.

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    JT Thor...this is an interesting wildcard. I think I read that he was projected to be a lottery pick next year… Very curious to see where he starts ending up on the boards.

    https://phenomhoopreport.com/nba-dra...burns-jt-thor/

    Edit: without being able to see what his weaknesses are, he looks, perhaps, like exactly what we are looking for: solid 3 point shooter, great form, can likely guard either forward position, great athleticism, crazy wingspan, still developing, potential to be a solid defender.

    Interesting.

    It really is. To sign with an agent as well after not being listed in many first round mocks (or at all sometimes).

    A first round promise perhaps? Houston have 2 picks back to back at 23, 24...

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