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    Luka is already in a different route from Vassell and KJ. Some are trying to sell me on the K.Anderson route. We shall see what route that Luka is on.

    But I do get the core of your wish. I do hope this rookie plays and is impactful from his first seasonÖ that would be someone special.
    We know that Pop was forced to play his Vets to get them chance to earn their next contracts, also they were trying to get in the playoffs (while I thought playing the youngsters would've gotten them there instead).

    Just the same, anywhere else I think Devin would be playing more minutes. He is a poised, very capable player.

    While I like them to get someone with immediate impact, the young average age of this roster which is 25.6, tells me that they will probably take the more conservative route.

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    I told you those pricks would probably get lucky. All they do is whine about their predicament and every time they're stagnant or in trouble, the league helps them out. Stern called the Vancouver fiasco his greatest regret and the league has been determined to make sure Toronto doesn't follow suit.

    Even when they shamelessly tank and thumb their nose up at the play-in (things that the league shouldn't be pleased with from a supposedly good team), they get rewarded.

    Meanwhile, the idiots here continue to get on, so why shouldn't every mediocre or worse team tank again?

    And how embarrassing is it that 2 years after gifting them a championship, they now have a better present and future than this team that still lacks a foundational player? What a disgrace.

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    Great read-- thanks for posting. I too like Jaden Springer, Roko Prkacin, and Trey Murphy lll higher, and Kuminga lower. For me Kuminga is one of the scarier prospects. I think I'd take Wagner before Kuminga because he just seems to have too many red flags with poor 3pt%, poor FT%, poor metrics in the G league, poor feel, too many turnovers...

    If Julian Champagnie doesn't get drafted, I like him as a 6'8" Bryn Forbes replacement.
    I think Wagner is undoubtedly the better overall player right now. At the end of his rookie contract? Kuminga could be the best player from the entire draft.
    Thatís a big call, I know.
    This video from Rob Dauster (who put out great draft content last year), makes a very strong case why..



    Wagner I feel, is perfect for a team with multiple firsts. The Warriors, Rockets or Magic look like ideal landing spots assuming they decide to keep all their picks.

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    I think Wagner is undoubtedly the better overall player right now. At the end of his rookie contract? Kuminga could be the best player from the entire draft.
    That’s a big call, I know.
    This video from Rob Dauster (who put out great draft content last year), makes a very strong case why..



    Wagner I feel, is perfect for a team with multiple firsts. The Warriors, Rockets or Magic look like ideal landing spots assuming they decide to keep all their picks.
    I'll mark it on my calendar to revisit in 2025: Kuminga vs Wagner.

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    I don't know how any of you could have any enthusiasm for this at this point. How many more unremarkable/flawed role players do they need to collect before is no longer excites or even intrigues you?

    How many teams have to level up currently, future wise or both, before it smacks you in the face that they're in probably the worst situation in the league? And they'll fight to maintain it by blowing most of their cap space to "fight for the playoffs".

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    I don't know how any of you could have any enthusiasm for this at this point. How many more unremarkable/flawed role players do they need to collect before is no longer excites or even intrigues you?

    How many teams have to level up currently, future wise or both, before it smacks you in the face that they're in probably the worst situation in the league? And they'll fight to maintain it by blowing most of their cap space to "fight for the playoffs".

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    I don't know how any of you could have any enthusiasm for this at this point. How many more unremarkable/flawed role players do they need to collect before is no longer excites or even intrigues you?

    How many teams have to level up currently, future wise or both, before it smacks you in the face that they're in probably the worst situation in the league? And they'll fight to maintain it by blowing most of their cap space to "fight for the playoffs".
    The future prospects of the Spurs no matter how bleak doesn’t depress me on a personal level.

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    The draft is so close, yet so far. Can’t wait.

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    The draft is so close, yet so far. Can’t wait.
    at least we've got the combines and olympic exhibitions to look at in between.

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    Just takes out all the joy of watching basketball add to that the league is looking at expanding either Las Vegas or Seattle I am betting on Vegas as Seattle Socialism won’t pay for a new arena - That makes it even worse as just add more ty teams with sub par players

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    at least we've got the combines and olympic exhibitions to look at in between.
    Combine scrimmages are more interesting. I hope everyone participates.

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    The future prospects of the Spurs no matter how bleak doesnít depress me on a personal level.
    Like that's how I meant it.

    What a weird fan base. Obviously we can't do much about it, but I don't know how you could be content with living off the past, the constant self inflicted wounds, getting repeatedly screwed, seeing the team that embarrassed them continue to get lucky, etc. Bunch of cucks.

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    The draft is so close, yet so far. Can’t wait.
    Just like sitting front row in a strip bar

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    Jericho Sims with a 44.5" max vertical, which if accurate ties for the highest (w/ Hamidou Diallo) at NBA combine over last 20 years

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    H20 under the bridge, what was the highest draft # the Spurs could have gotten?
    Was 12 it?

    2. This Green kid that went straight from California HS to G league. Sounds like he is gonna go withing top 10. What is your take on him?

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    What do we think Wisemanís trade value is this year?

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    Like that's how I meant it.

    What a weird fan base. Obviously we can't do much about it, but I don't know how you could be content with living off the past, the constant self inflicted wounds, getting repeatedly screwed, seeing the team that embarrassed them continue to get lucky, etc. Bunch of cucks.
    Who even embarrassed the spurs?

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    Combine scrimmages are more interesting. I hope everyone participates.
    They won't.

    Think of it this way.

    Step 1. I'm think I'm good but my agent still says I have to get measured at the combine (with those other peasants). Then . . .

    2. Okay, I got measured but we're drawing the line at any jumping or running. Then . . .

    3. I can't believe these know-nothings still don't see me for the star that I am -- but I'm not actually playing in any games with those dreadful hillbillys.

    The really high-end guys never get to step 3 -- not even close.

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    Just get a real sf/pf please. no more pg/sg who cant shoot

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    Word is Rockets want to deal Christian Wood for a later lottery pick and either a young player or another first rd pick. Would you want the spurs to look at Christian Wood. They want Evan Mobley.

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    Tennessee’s Keon Johnson just recorded a 41.5’’ standing vertical and 48’’ running vertical jump. Wow.

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    Word is Rockets want to deal Christian Wood for a later lottery pick and either a young player or another first rd pick. Would you want the spurs to look at Christian Wood. They want Evan Mobley.
    No. Wood is an undrafted journeyman who’s bounced all around the league. He’s 25, and played basically two season’s worth of games.

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    Jericho Sims with a 44.5" max vertical, which if accurate ties for the highest (w/ Hamidou Diallo) at NBA combine over last 20 years
    Sims is such an unusual case. Great wingspan too along with the vertical (7'3.25"), but not an elite shot blocker in college, and not a very good block/foul ratio. But his WS/40 and PER were actually better than Cade Cunningham's. 4th year player, great FG%, doesn't shoot much, no 3pt shot, poor FT%, will be 23 at start of next season... Maybe his ceiling is that of a super sub?
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    I don't know how any of you could have any enthusiasm for this at this point. How many more unremarkable/flawed role players do they need to collect before is no longer excites or even intrigues you?

    How many teams have to level up currently, future wise or both, before it smacks you in the face that they're in probably the worst situation in the league? And they'll fight to maintain it by blowing most of their cap space to "fight for the playoffs".
    So there's nothing wrong with collecting role-players. Role-players are currency in the NBA, and they make it easier to build around a star once one comes. The issue is the Spurs having to use their assets properly. As I've suggested for two years now, I believe the Spurs should trade one or more of their young players to improve their pick and/or acquire a vet who would improve the team. Supposedly, the Hawks were willing to let the Spurs move up to 6 last year had SA been willing to deal Murray or White. In retrospect, there wasn't much to be gained by them doing so. No one between Okoro at 5 and Vassell really screams missed opportunity. In that same regard, them not trading say Poeltl to move up for Clarke obviously didn't end up making them miss out on him, though my main target was Hachimura.

    Whatever, the point is that there's no reason to actually be pessimistic about the pick. Obviously, I would've preferred a higher pick. However it's pretty obvious looking at the four CF teams that you don't need to (and I'd argue that you shouldn't try to) build a team through the draft. Constantly pushing for that suggests and antiquated philosophy that ignores how modern teams -- large or small in their market -- operate. You build through trades and signings -- not the draft. You can totally feel cautious about Brian Wright's ability to put together a roster, but their pick isn't among their biggest problems.

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    I'm not willing to trade 12 (outright) for a center. Basically, I'd only see moving it as a package for Ben Simmons as a viable avenue. With DeRozan a UFA and LMA gone, there should be no belief that the team should prioritize winning now. As I mentioned, I do believe the Spurs should use the pick to move around in the draft and/or acquire an additional pick using players. While the team doesn't mean MORE young guys, it does need better ones.

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