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    I don't know how any of you could have any enthusiasm for this at this point. How many more unremarkable/flawed role players do they need to collect before is no longer excites or even intrigues you?

    How many teams have to level up currently, future wise or both, before it smacks you in the face that they're in probably the worst situation in the league? And they'll fight to maintain it by blowing most of their cap space to "fight for the playoffs".
    TD, it’s only our second time in the lottery in the last 20+ years. We’ve had a terrific run.

    The Spurs (DJ specifically), seemed to put extra emphasis on the idea of making the playoffs last year and ultimately came up short.
    I perceived that as “a make or break (up?)” scenario.

    We don’t have any contractually obligated obfuscations atm and this draft is shaping up to have all-star type talent at #12.

    It’s going to take one of the core under 25s to ascend to an all-star level or a big FA signing for us to enter the Purgatory conversation next season otherwise I expect we’ll have our highest pick since Timmy.
    Win win for me.

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    People just like to . A fan base that really SHOULD be ing is OKC. There were a number of scenarios where they have 2 top 5 picks by jumping into the top 4 themselves, having a couple more teams join them, and knocking Houston’s pick back to 5, and using their pick swap with #18. Instead the have #6 in a 5 player draft.

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    Jonathan Givony @DraftExpress

    Texas' Jericho Sims registered a 44 1/2 inch max vertical leap at the NBA Combine, tied for the second best mark in event history. His 37 inch standing vert is a top-15 mark historically as well.



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    Tennessee's Keon Johnson smashed Kenny Gregory's 20-year NBA Combine record with an outrageous 48 inch vertical leap. Also posted a 41 1/2 inch standing vertical leap.

    I figured Keon's max vert would be big after seeing this clip for the first time.





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    Jonathan Givony @DraftExpress

    Texas' Jericho Sims registered a 44 1/2 inch max vertical leap at the NBA Combine, tied for the second best mark in event history. His 37 inch standing vert is a top-15 mark historically as well.



    3:08pm · 23 Jun 2021 · Twitter Web App


    Jonathan Givony @DraftExpress
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    Tennessee's Keon Johnson smashed Kenny Gregory's 20-year NBA Combine record with an outrageous 48 inch vertical leap. Also posted a 41 1/2 inch standing vertical leap.

    I figured Keon's max vert would be big after seeing this clip for the first time.




    But interestingly none of those became stars, and only one so far even gets significant minutes. But still-- damn! I wonder if Keon was a high jumper or long jumper in high school?

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    Who even embarrassed the spurs?
    S bag, his sleazebag uncle and the Raptors.


    So there's nothing wrong with collecting role-players. Role-players are currency in the NBA, and they make it easier to build around a star once one comes. The issue is the Spurs having to use their assets properly. As I've suggested for two years now, I believe the Spurs should trade one or more of their young players to improve their pick and/or acquire a vet who would improve the team. Supposedly, the Hawks were willing to let the Spurs move up to 6 last year had SA been willing to deal Murray or White. In retrospect, there wasn't much to be gained by them doing so. No one between Okoro at 5 and Vassell really screams missed opportunity. In that same regard, them not trading say Poeltl to move up for Clarke obviously didn't end up making them miss out on him, though my main target was Hachimura.

    Whatever, the point is that there's no reason to actually be pessimistic about the pick. Obviously, I would've preferred a higher pick. However it's pretty obvious looking at the four CF teams that you don't need to (and I'd argue that you shouldn't try to) build a team through the draft. Constantly pushing for that suggests and antiquated philosophy that ignores how modern teams -- large or small in their market -- operate. You build through trades and signings -- not the draft. You can totally feel cautious about Brian Wright's ability to put together a roster, but their pick isn't among their biggest problems.
    I didn't say there was, but at this point I don't know where this excitement is derived from.

    But that's just it: They're too scared to do anything and don't seem to have a plan. They seem to think they'll just pull another Giniobili (not that they developed him), Parker or S bag out of their ass because they're the Spurs.

    It's not about the pick, it's about their predicament, especially in comparison to the Raptors.

    Finding a foundational piece(s) through the draft is essential, especially in a non glamour market. Obviously, building an entire core through it is unlikely though.


    TD, it’s only our second time in the lottery in the last 20+ years. We’ve had a terrific run.

    The Spurs (DJ specifically), seemed to put extra emphasis on the idea of making the playoffs last year and ultimately came up short.
    I perceived that as “a make or break (up?)” scenario.

    We don’t have any contractually obligated obfuscations atm and this draft is shaping up to have all-star type talent at #12.

    It’s going to take one of the core under 25s to ascend to an all-star level or a big FA signing for us to enter the Purgatory conversation next season otherwise I expect we’ll have our highest pick since Timmy.
    Win win for me.
    "We've" had an embarrassing 4 years and 3 years into what should have been a re-build, they're still stuck in first gear. I'd argue to start over again by selling off the mid 20s role players (White, Murray, Poeltl).

    The odds of an all-star type talent being available at #12 are slim and relying on being the team to nail that is both arrogant and stupid (there's a reason most actively try to avoid the middle).

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    S bag, his sleazebag uncle and the Raptors.




    I didn't say there was, but at this point I don't know where this excitement is derived from.

    But that's just it: They're too scared to do anything and don't seem to have a plan. They seem to think they'll just pull another Giniobili (not that they developed him), Parker or S bag out of their ass because they're the Spurs.

    It's not about the pick, it's about their predicament, especially in comparison to the Raptors.

    Finding a foundational piece(s) through the draft is essential, especially in a non glamour market. Obviously, building an entire core through it is unlikely though.




    "We've" had an embarrassing 4 years and 3 years into what should have been a re-build, they're still stuck in first gear. I'd argue to start over again by selling off the mid 20s role players (White, Murray, Poeltl).

    The odds of an all-star type talent being available at #12 are slim and relying on being the team to nail that is both arrogant and stupid (there's a reason most actively try to avoid the middle).

    theycould of gotten a really good player in halliburton at#11 but went with vassell. Hopefully that turns out well for sa

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    Tennessee’s Keon Johnson just recorded a 41.5’’ standing vertical and 48’’ running vertical jump. Wow.
    Could watch this all day...

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    jericho sims>>>>>>>>>>keon johnson...........sims can rebound

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    S bag, his sleazebag uncle and the Raptors.
    Dennis & Nephew, but can't really be mad at the Raptors for making the most of it.

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    JRE in the second round please

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    Dennis & Nephew, but can't really be mad at the Raptors for making the most of it.
    Seriously, plus I’ll take a few years of Demar plus Poeltl and opportunity to draft KJ (yes, realize that’s a risk and chances are he shouldn’t have dropped there) over whatever garbage the Lakers weren’t offering.

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    JRE in the second round please
    Definitely a great option. A month ago I was wondering why he wasn’t being considered higher. Seems like a great role player.

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    Players I like in this draft who are potentially within our reach with our two picks:

    Moody
    Springer
    Sengun
    Jeremiah Robinson Earl (thanks for reminding me, Dejounte)
    JT Thor
    Wagner
    Duarte
    Garuba
    Cooper
    Giddey
    Murphy III
    Julian Champaigne
    Kispert

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    as EURO fan:

    Sengun
    Wagner
    Moody
    Garuba

    for our 1st

    Thor
    JRE
    Murphy 3

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    Would it be worth it to trade back with OKC for 16 + 18 for our 12 if they target someone specific?

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    Would it be worth it to trade back with OKC for 16 + 18 for our 12 if they target someone specific?
    I would trade 12 for 16 + 18. Could probably get two of: Garuba, JT Thor, Kispert, Sengun, Duarte, Bouknight. Not saying they'd all be available, but after 6 there seems to be enough of a drop off.

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