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Let the games(manship) begin!
I’d love to hear what team said that.
Wasserman reported that Duarte had a terrible workout for a team and came in out of shape according to his sources. Says the team complained that he didnt go to the combine.
Either he’s trying to tank his value or bad decisions are being made. I’m leaning towards the former since it lines up with what I’ve heard and read about his work ethic. Getting y up in here…
sounds to me he’s trying to pull a Vassell…
Let the games(manship) begin!
I’d love to hear what team said that.
It’s hard for me to separate Kai from UT’s long history of not developing players, or at least not producing much quality NBA talent. Part of me blames Austin. Some football players have a hard transition to the NFL as well, but that’s my uninformed 10,000 foot analysis.
With Kai, Jherico, and Brown, they all three were cramming up the court together it seems. I would avoid Kai with any lottery pick. There isn’t enough to go on, and too much is negative. But to flip it around, because the situation with all three seems so poorly managed, there is an argument that the other two might have value way later in the draft. I mean, the other two are freak athletes. It would be a Eubanks path to a career. But if you could pick up Brown in the second round or Jherico undrafted? Maybe something smaller to work with. But its not really what we need on the Spurs. On the Toros, maybe.
So overall, I say pass on all of them, especially if we don’t get someone who projects as a good 3 point shooter in the first round.
I hope Spurs work out and pick him too. He has such calm, humble and yet confident demeanor, like Duncan. Hard to imagine this kind of people won't keep progressing. His 3 point shot and fast- break alone will enable him to play in the 2nd half of the season.
There’s a lot to be excited about Kai but not at 12th. He’s still very raw and a 2-3 years project, but could come out as a Christian Wood. And right now there are picks that can contribute immediately, Wagner, Sengun, Johnson, Duarte, Moody.
having a bad workout is one thing but coming out of shape is another. But that could be a strategy as we heard about a promise for Duarte a few weeks ago.
Still i don't tjink he is a target for the Spurs at 12.
- Moody is suprisingly slower and less athletic than i thought that explains the drop in mocks.
- Garuba played real well offensively without shooting it.
- Giddey is good positionally on defense but that t-rex arms prevent him from making plays on that end.
- Wasserman said giddey wont get past us at 12.
Keon still my guy and Garuba.
new SI mock with some intel :
https://www.si.com/nba/2021/07/20/nb...ey-jalen-green
I’ll definitely agree that Kai in the way he talks about the game and discusses his drive to improve as a player, it’s impressive. By all accounts he is a hard worker and puts in the time to back up what he says.
Im concerned under Shaka, seeing how the Longhorns played, seeing how another prospect went into the season with lofty expectations and looked completely lost. I’m concerned Kai showed some of the same tendencies and struggles to contribute at all at times. I’m concerned when he talks about working on his jump shot and his mechanics at his pro day are fundamentally screwed, and how many bad habits have been drilled into him that will have to be unlearned.
If Kai comes to San Antonio, I won’t worry because it means in the interviews and workouts, they’ve identified he can overcome these concerns or that his potential strengths are strong enough they won’t matter.
He has an obvious analogue positionally in Sengun in draft range and position. It’s almost a philosophical conversation at that point of raw tools and potential based on athleticism vs. the refined scoring and fundamentals of Sengun. I’ll gamble on the 18 year old Turkish MVP to continue building some strength and explosiveness like he has over the last year or so before I put my lottery pick down on the raw project to unlearn his bad habits and build good ones. But there’s very few picks to make at 12 that will leave me disappointed on draft night.
i was pretty impressed with how garuba 1) went after rebounds and 2) moved without the ball. his defense was pretty solid as well. he is definitely active.
Keldon gets a little bit of burn in the national spotlight and SI is dubbing him a clear starting caliber piece and basically a building block.
spurs fans should note what kind of electric talent and personality they have here. Guy is going to be a fast riser in the game and could be huge for this franchise.
he is starting to look like a sneaky spurs pick to me
IMO, got to be careful with prospects who talk about they want to improve and how they’re a hard worker. These are empty words at the end of the day. What’s more impressive is if they talk about how they read the game or how their teammates and coaches perceive them.
seriously not seeing what people are saying here. Doesn’t look at all like a lottery talent. Late first round, sure.
Same. Some might see him as Clint Capela, a small ball 5. Unsure about that. More to the point, I don't see how he fits the roster.
They're like job interviews, almost useless in discovering vital things about players. How they talk about the game is another matter. I liked how Giddey talked about his mistakes and improvements, for example. He really showed an intelligence and understanding for 18 years old.
I think they are projecting Chip's ability to make him a reliable outside shooter to go with his defensive talent. I'm not that brave...I have him at #19 on my BB.
on my own personal big board I’d put him in the 25-30 range but I can see a team in the late lottery, teens, or early 20s reaching just based on his tools and instincts.
ive talked philosophically about where 5s fit in today’s game a bit over the last year. But a mobile dude with long arms has a niche and should be playable in most situations and match ups. The raw offense is completely secondary to the role he would play.
He’s not coming to San Antonio but I see qualities in his game that historically would make him a reach candidate for the spurs. picking in the lottery changes the dynamic quite a bit.
UT has had plenty of success stories. In the last 20-ish years, there is Chris Mihm, Maurice Evans, TJ Ford, LaMarcus Aldridge, PJ Tucker, Kevin Durant, DJ Augustin, Avery Bradley, Tristan Thompson, Cory Joseph, Myles Turner, Jarrett Allen, etc.
Not all of those guys are star players, but most went on to have decent-to-great careers and there is a handful of championships between them.
Obviously there is a fair share of misses in there as well (cough BAMBA cough) but I'm not sure you can blame it particularly on UT, but rather on the fact that most guys coming out of UT only play for a year or two before they apply for the draft.
Thats damning fir Jones. Even if he pans out he needs a long time to develop. Hardly worth it for a lottery team that needs talent to help the team rise fr the basement sooner rather than later. He’s worth the gamble in the second round, but too raw for the lottery. After seeing the Spurs sink 2 years into Samanic without even knowing what he will be for sure I don’t have the stomach got a guy that’s 2 years away from being 2 years away again.
Greg Brown there in the second round? Might want to roll the bones on that one
Trendon Watford and Kai Jones (cue the fanboys) both posted they’re in the Spurs facility.
y tip. Good that they are trying out the bigs for comparison sake
I think Chip is legit, but I wonder sometimes at people who cast him as some sort of miracle worker... The Spurs as a team were 24th in the league in 3ptFG% last season, and 30th in 3ptFGA. So their 3pt% is one of the worst despite also being one of the most selective. They were 24th in 2pt% and 10th in FT%.
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Sengun is a less athletic Pau Gasol???
Pop literally:
Sengun is a more athletic version of Pau Gasol. But also not really Pau Gasol.
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