Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 103
  1. #26
    It's ok to be a man Dirks_Finale's Avatar
    My Team
    Dallas Mavericks
    Join Date
    Oct 2018
    Post Count
    2,589
    Biden president, not Trump
    Jordan GOAT, not Lebron !

  2. #27
    6X ST MVP Spurtacular's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    76,689
    "Not so private"

    Lol youre either private or public clown
    Not from a societal pov, clown.

    The idea that airlines should make far-reaching societal decisions because they're "private companies" is a mealy-mouthed chumpette-like take.

  3. #28
    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Post Count
    82,755
    Being told what to do with your own body bad now

  4. #29
    6X ST MVP Spurtacular's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    76,689
    Being told what to do with your own body bad now
    I bet that sounded good in your head.

  5. #30
    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Post Count
    39,360
    Theyd be worthless because the same people lying about having "medical exemptions" will lie about taking the vaccine.

  6. #31
    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Post Count
    82,755
    I bet that sounded good in your head.
    It sounded right.

  7. #32
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Post Count
    90,275
    QAnon congresswoman says vaccine passports may cause apocalyptic end times



    Republicans are panicking over the concept of vaccine passports as polls reveal their base is the most misinformed population on the safety of COVID-19 vaccines.

    "Authoritarian leftists want a Chinese-styled social credit system here in America. Vaccine passports via the Govt or private sector would create a two-tiered caste system," Donald Trump, Jr. tweeted on Monday.

    "Every elected GOP officeholder worth a damn should publicly oppose this un-American concept immediately!!!" he demanded.

    "They are actually talking about people's ability to buy and sell linked to the vaccine passport.

    They might as well call it Biden's Mark of the Beast,"

    Greene tweeted, referring to apocalypse in the Book of Revelation.

    https://www.rawstory.com/republicans-vaccine-passports

  8. #33
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    13,559
    DeSantis vows to ban ‘vaccination passports’ as he signs law shielding Florida businesses from COVID-19 liability
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/soc...cid=uxbndlbing

  9. #34
    絶対領域が大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    83,128
    DeSantis vows to ban ‘vaccination passports’ as he signs law shielding Florida businesses from COVID-19 liability
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/soc...cid=uxbndlbing
    The right just loves taking COVID's side in the pandemic.

  10. #35
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    13,559
    The right just loves taking COVID's side in the pandemic.
    Why are you still afraid of getting infected?

  11. #36
    絶対領域が大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    83,128
    Why are you still afraid of getting infected?
    Nice dodge man

  12. #37
    Veteran hater's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    57,022
    Not from a societal pov, clown.

    The idea that airlines should make far-reaching societal decisions because they're "private companies" is a mealy-mouthed chumpette-like take.
    Sorry this is happening to you

  13. #38
    Veteran hater's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    57,022
    DeSantis vows to ban ‘vaccination passports’ as he signs law shielding Florida businesses from COVID-19 liability
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/soc...cid=uxbndlbing
    Just got my property in FLA

  14. #39
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    13,559
    Not a dodge. You're fully vaccinated. Soon everyone who wants to be vaccinated will be vaccinated. So why the concern about being near unvaccinated people?

    You still thinking we're gonna beat this virus and make it go away?

  15. #40
    絶対領域が大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    83,128
    Not a dodge. You're fully vaccinated. Soon everyone who wants to be vaccinated will be vaccinated. So why the concern about being near unvaccinated people?

    You still thinking we're gonna beat this virus and make it go away?
    No one thinks the virus is going away. Just want to limit replication as much as possible so new strains aren't outright encouraged. Which they absolutely will be the more people refuse vaccination. I don't know why you think we're all islands.

  16. #41
    6X ST MVP Spurtacular's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    76,689
    Sorry this is happening to you
    Useful idiots insisting on compulsory experimental poisons to use de facto public transportation is happening to me.

  17. #42
    Veteran hater's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    57,022
    No one thinks the virus is going away. Just want to limit replication as much as possible so new strains aren't outright encouraged. Which they absolutely will be the more people refuse vaccination. I don't know why you think we're all islands.
    Even if USA vaccinates 100% of its ppl. It will take years to vaccinate the rets of the world. The ship has sailed.

    New mutations will happen vaccine or not. Maybe if we had done something like New Zealand, Australia, even China wed have a chance in . And by we I mean the entire planet.

    But we ed up. Like all other 3rd world countries. Its too late now vaccine or not.

  18. #43
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    13,559
    No one thinks the virus is going away. Just want to limit replication as much as possible so new strains aren't outright encouraged. Which they absolutely will be the more people refuse vaccination. I don't know why you think we're all islands.
    lol you've been complaining for a year that we didn't make ourselves an island while I've been telling you it's the 5th endemic HCoV

    The whole world is infected and plenty of animal reservoirs, you can't stop evolution. Get your booster when the time comes, it's not a big deal. Who cares if anti-vaxxers want to do it nature's way.

  19. #44
    6X ST MVP Spurtacular's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Post Count
    76,689
    QAnon congresswoman says vaccine passports may cause apocalyptic end times



    Republicans are panicking over the concept of vaccine passports as polls reveal their base is the most misinformed population on the safety of COVID-19 vaccines.

    "Authoritarian leftists want a Chinese-styled social credit system here in America. Vaccine passports via the Govt or private sector would create a two-tiered caste system," Donald Trump, Jr. tweeted on Monday.

    "Every elected GOP officeholder worth a damn should publicly oppose this un-American concept immediately!!!" he demanded.

    "They are actually talking about people's ability to buy and sell linked to the vaccine passport.

    They might as well call it Biden's Mark of the Beast,"

    Greene tweeted, referring to apocalypse in the Book of Revelation.

    https://www.rawstory.com/republicans-vaccine-passports


  20. #45
    絶対領域が大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    83,128
    lol you've been complaining for a year that we didn't make ourselves an island while I've been telling you it's the 5th endemic HCoV

    The whole world is infected and plenty of animal reservoirs, you can't stop evolution. Get your booster when the time comes, it's not a big deal. Who cares if anti-vaxxers want to do it nature's way.
    Anti-vaxxers will be adding fuel to the fire and encouraging more and faster evolution. The right has been so determined to extend this pandemic since day 1.

  21. #46
    Veteran hater's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Post Count
    57,022
    Anti-vaxxers will be adding fuel to the fire and encouraging more and faster evolution. The right has been so determined to extend this pandemic since day 1.
    Lol the right

    The whole country includikg washington dc is opening up and we were not even at 10% vaccinated

    The ship has sailed and everyone waved good bye

  22. #47
    Against Home Schooling Ef-man's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Post Count
    4,813
    Article from 2011 so cost would be higher for those not getting covid vaccine.

    People Who Don’t Get Vaccinations Cost U.S. Economy $7 Billion a Year.

    Researchers say healthcare costs and lost productivity add up when vaccines aren’t given. Antivaccination groups dispute the findings.

    People who don’t get vaccinated are not just expressing a political view or voicing health concerns.

    They are a drag on the economy.

    That’s according to a study released this month by the University of North Carolina (UNC) at Chapel Hill.

    The study, published Oct. 12 in the journal Health Affairs, examined the actual cost of inpatient and outpatient care as well as medications and the value of productivity lost from time spent seeking care.

    The study was funded by Merck, a leading producer of vaccines.

    The researchers said people who do not get inoculated for diseases that can be prevented by vaccines cost the U.S. economy more than $7 billion a year.

    The bill for diseases that vaccines can prevent is $8.95 billion annually. Unvaccinated individuals account for 80 percent of that figure, or $7.1 billion, the researcher said.

    The most expensive preventable disease is the flu virus, which in 2015 accounted for nearly $5.8 billion in healthcare costs and lost productivity.

    Looking at 10 vaccines
    Sachiko Ozawa, Ph.D., associate professor at the UNC Eshelman School of Pharmacy, led the research team that studied 10 vaccines recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

    Those vaccines protect against hepa is A, hepa is B, the herpes zoster virus that causes shingles, human papillomavirus, influenza, measles, mumps, rubella, meningococcal disease, pneumococcal disease, tetanus, diphtheria, pertussis, and chickenpox.

    “We believe our estimates are conservative and highlight the potential economic benefit of increasing adult immunization coverage and the value of vaccines,” Ozawa told Healthline. “We hope our study will spur creative healthcare policies that minimize the negative spillover effects from people choosing not to be vaccinated while still respecting patients’ rights to make informed choices.”

    The CDC estimates that 42 percent of U.S. adults received the flu vaccine during the 2015-2016 flu season. Other major illnesses with substantial economic burdens include pneumococcal disease, such as meningitis and pneumonia — which tallied nearly $1.9 billion in costs — and herpes zoster that causes shingles, which cost $782 million.

    Researchers said the funding by Merck did not create a conflict of interest.

    The researchers used a standard cost-of-illness methodology, and the primary data sources for the study (the Medical Expenditure Panel Survey and the Nationwide Inpatient Sample) are publicly available databases that could be viewed by anyone, Ozawa said.

    “We have disclosed all the data inputs, analysis, and methodology in detail in the paper, which was peer-reviewed, and in the online supplement so the results are reproducible,” he said.” We present the results without any modifications by the funder.”

    Why did the study cover only one year?

    “Our objective was to estimate an annual economic burden using the latest available datasets,” Ozawa said. “We did not go back in time to look at changes in economic burden over the past decade, as many things may have changed during the decade in addition to vaccine uptake — such as the incidence of disease, the costs of treatment, and the effectiveness of vaccines themselves.

    “For vaccine uptake, our analysis used an average of the latest years of data available. Uptake may differ from year to year based on demand-side (access, costs, etc.) and supply-side factors (supply, doctor recommendations, etc.).”

    Debate over the benefits
    Historically, vaccinations have saved lives and money.

    In a two-decade study, the CDC analyzed the benefits of immunization during the Vaccines for Children Program era, 1994-2013.

    “Coverage for many childhood vaccine series was near or above 90 percent for much of the period,” said Ian Branam, a CDC health communication specialist. “Modeling estimated that, among children born during 1994-2013, vaccination will prevent an estimated 322 million illnesses, 21 million hospitalizations, and 732,000 deaths over the course of their lifetimes, at a net savings of $295 billion in direct costs and $1.38 trillion in total societal costs.”

    Some organizations believe that vaccinating children can cause serious medical problems, such as autism.

    The results of the UNC study did not surprise a leader of Moms Against Mercury (MAM). (Probably derp's mom as he is ed up as much as she is and believes all sorts of conspiracies, like debunked vaccines cause autism.)

    “We recognize it as the propaganda that it is,” said Janet Presson, R.N., M.Ed., a member of the board of MAM, which is based in North Carolina. “Vaccines can and do cause allergies, asthma, autoimmune disorders, neurological injury, autism, seizures, and even death. These serious health issues also cost billions.”

    Presson also expressed reservations about the Merck research funding.

    “Industry-funded research must always be carefully scrutinized, regardless of the industry involved,” she said in a Healthline interview. “When the addition of a single vaccine to the mandated schedule results in billions in profits per year to the manufacturer, the stakes become even clearer. The pharmaceutical industry has a history of falsification of research, lawsuits following numerous deaths and injuries from their products, and their products are recognized as a leading cause of death.”

    In some cases, children are vaccinated at higher rates than adults.

    That’s the case in California, according to reports from its Department of Public Health.

    Based on data from the 2015 National Immunization Survey (NIS) for California, the estimated vaccination coverage (verified by medical records) among children 19 to 35 months was 75 percent for the combined seven-vaccine measure.

    These include DTaP (tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis), polio, measles-containing vaccine, Hib vaccine (prevents serious infections such as meningitis, pneumonia and epiglot is, a severe throat infection), varicella (chickenpox), and pneumococcal.

    The influenza immunization rate for California children 6 months through 17 years was almost 60 percent, according to NIS data. For the 2015-2016 school year, 93 percent of kindergarteners were fully vaccinated with all required immunizations, and 97.8 percent of seventh graders received the pertussis booster immunization.

    “While some people may discredit the value of vaccines,” Ozawa said, “it is important to remember that U.S. adults are getting sick with vaccine-preventable diseases, and that vaccines can prevent them. Avoiding these illnesses can have not only a health impact, but also an economic benefit to society.”

    https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...billion-a-year

  23. #48
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    13,559
    Anti-vaxxers will be adding fuel to the fire and encouraging more and faster evolution. The right has been so determined to extend this pandemic since day 1.
    lol we're not all islands but viewing the world only as left vs right

    You can't stop evolution

  24. #49
    絶対領域が大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Post Count
    83,128
    lol we're not all islands but viewing the world only as left vs right

    You can't stop evolution
    You can choose to not outright feed it

  25. #50
    Veteran
    My Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Post Count
    13,559
    You can choose to not outright feed it
    I did, I got vaccinated.

    I didn't say I was against a vaccine passport. I've been getting my annual flu shot for decades. Forcing all you ers to get your annual cold & flu vaccine is fine by me. I'm an authoritarian remember .

    Was just asking why a fully vaccinated person like you is still scared.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •