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    RIP, GOP (An Exhortation)
    by kingubu
    Fri Sep 2nd, 2005 at 17:40:01 PDT


    I honestly believe that we are witnessing the beginning of the end of the so-called conservative movement, and the Republican Party that it currently inhabits. The slow-motion horror that the nation is witnessing on the flooded streets of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast is the final, irrefutable evidence that the GOP is not fit to govern this great nation. There is no amount of spin and slime that can erase what millions of Americans are seeing for themselves on the evening news.

    But it is not Bush's obvious crocodile tears or the Feds' dithering while a city drowns that will be their undoing. It is something much larger. Something that strikes at the very soul of America.

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    Democrats and liberals have watched in apoplectic horror as Republicans have gained ground at all levels of government despite hard evidence of corruption, incompetence, and failure. Foolishly, we, navel-gazers that we often are, have thought that the trend was about us; something that we were doing wrong. We have had meeting after meeting to discuss where and how we went off-track.

    Well, we have erred, but not in the way that we usually think. We have failed because we let doubt get the better of us. We have let America down by thinking there was something wrong with what we were doing in the first place. We lost our voice because we blinked when we should have advanced.

    The Republicans haven't been winning because they have a better plan or sounder policies. They have been winning because they have spent billions of dollars on a coordinated media campaign to make a slim majority of voting America feel good about the worst aspects of their natures. They have succeeded, not by providing a national vision that inspires us to a higher nobility, but by telling us that giving in to our basest instincts is what's best for us as individuals and as a nation.

    The product the GOP has been selling is absolution-- not the old-fashioned kind, purchased through self-sacrifice and dedication-- but a cheap, outsourced knock-off kind of absolution that says, "its okay, we do it, too. We won't tell."

    How hard is it really to convince people that being selfish is the way to go? Where is the higher calling in predatory greed? What invention is required to pander to the lust for revenge?. Where is the challenge in stoking people's fears about personal safety, or in feeding the flames of prejudice?

    Its not hard to aim for the lowest common denominator and that is exactly what the GOP has been doing. Rather than hatching a plan to make America a better place then convincing the public to support it, they have instead made a science of putting lipstick on a pig. They package greed and avarice and sell it as "sound market policy." They bind up cruelty and fear and slap on a label marked "national security." They take bigotry and hatred and push it out the door in a glossy package marked "traditional family values." There are no new ideas; only our darkest human frailties made bland with a double scoop of political weasel-words and sexed up with Madison Ave. sizzle.

    Empathy is a uniquely human skill. We must be taught to play fair, to share, to think of others, to give without expecting something in return. We all, liberals and conservatives alike, teach our kids these basic human ethics; and we define their maturity based on the degree to which they internalize them. Yet those in the GOP who presume to lead us make a mockery of human civilization by denigrating those very principles.

    Fairness? Equality? Shared interest? Working for a common good? These are ridiculed by Republican operatives as passe, bleeding-heart Hippie-speak, or worse, as insane and treasonous. They cry about their self-made straw-man of a "Democratic nanny state" but infantilize the nation by pushing aside or punishing those who would dare to advance policies that reach beyond the instinctual primitive obsessions of "I, me, and mine."

    The litany of short-sighted GOP-authored legislation over the last several years-- the gutting of public works, tax cuts in the face of mounting debt, the single-minded redistribution of wealth to those with plenty, the blatant cronyism-- reveal the truth: the Republican Party has no plan and no vision for governing this nation. All they have is a strategy for getting elected-- and then redirecting public funds to campaign donors to get re-elected. It a strategy to snuff out our public ins utions through attrition while making their supporters feel warm and fuzzy about being greedy, selfish, bigoted, cruel, and wasteful.

    The Republicans encourage the worst elements of our society by creating a morality-free zone behind a painted facade of piety and strict morality but once you are inside, there is nothing to see. There is no show. They are there to trash the place and slink off with the loot, not to build or to work.

    When faced with a crisis they run in front of the cameras with focus group-tested slogans and happy talk because that is all they have. Everything they do and are is bound up in their marketing scheme. Their only skill is in trying to make what's wrong seem right just long enough for the the check to clear. There is no substance, no deeper resources to draw from, no greater ideals to act as pole-star. There is only spin, counter-spin, and smear. Every problem is a PR problem.

    Tragedy has a way of revealing character. The constant drumbeat of death from the war in Iraq, and now the cascading nightmare that is the Gulf Coast flood has peeled away the veneer and we can see the GOP leadership and the larger conservative movement for what it is: a sham. They have nothing. They offer nothing. They come to destroy, not to build. They have no vision for a greater public good because, for them, the very notion of a public good is anathema.

    Make no mistake: as we watch our fellow citizens drown, starve, and die in the street in New Orleans, its not incompetence or lack of planning that is killing them. It is willful neglect. It is the direct result of reducing the government "down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub." This is what "starving the beast" looks like.

    For some 30 years the Republican party has packaged humanity's darkest and most craven weaknesses and pawned them off as its greatest virtues. Well, the reckoning is here and the conservatives are found wanting. When the chips are down we are a nation that cares for our citizens and we expect our government to be strong enough, capable enough, and compassionate enough to do the same.

    As Democrats, we call upon and support the nobler aspects of human nature. The time has come to put aside our doubts, get back on track, and inspire our brothers and sisters with our vision for a better nation and a better world.

    Rest in peace, Grand Old Party. America can no longer afford the drag that your self-delusions and cheap justifications put on our spirit. For those who are willing to turn back from pandering to the lowest common denominator and who choose to join us lifting up the better angels of our nature, we offer the hand of friendship. For the the rest: may the God whose name you have scandalized and used as cover for your lack of humanity have mercy on your degenerate souls.
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    And what then Dan, back to this? Not a viable alternative.





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    actually the democratic party is already dead!

    so look for a moderate republican to win the white house... cause the dems will never move to the center again...

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    no matter how bad ass their media spin was, if the republicans were ing people so hard they should know it and vote democrat... fact is, they aren't.

    nbadan, has never came up with one solution to anything. it is funny...

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    For you Dan!.............................................. ...........................................

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    actually the democratic party is already dead!

    so look for a moderate republican to win the white house... cause the dems will never move to the center again...
    George Bush won by 1% of the vote in the last election and some Republicans are calling the Democratic Party dead. Yeah, that will gain you credibility in this forum.

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    George Bush won by 1% of the vote in the last election and some Republicans are calling the Democratic Party dead. Yeah, that will gain you credibility in this forum.



    President George W. Bush won the popular vote on November 2 by a 50.7% to 48.2% margin over Senator John Kerry.

    50.7% to 48.2%...that's 1%?

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    50.7% to 48.2%...that's 1%?
    A lot of things don't add up in Nbadanland.

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    A lot of things don't add up in Nbadanland.


    TRO, when you take W's out of you mouth, you are damn funny.

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    50.7% to 48.2%...that's 1%?
    Your not a math major I take it. The 1% comes as a ratio of the total number of people who voted, not the number of people who voted for W versus Kerry.

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    no matter how bad ass their media spin was, if the republicans were ing people so hard they should know it and vote democrat... fact is, they aren't.


    well another fact is the common american is a big dumbass too

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jochhejaam 50.7% to 48.2%...that's 1%?

    Your not a math major I take it. The 1% comes as a ratio of the total number of people who voted, not the number of people who voted for W versus Kerry.

    It wasn't 1% no matter how you slice it dan.


    'AMERICA HAS SPOKEN': Bush gains mandate with a record 59 million votes

    November 4, 2004
    BY STEVEN THOMMA
    FREE PRESS WASHINGTON STAFF

    WASHINGTON -- As one of the costliest and most bitter campaigns came to an end Wednesday, President George W. Bush basked in victory, reaching out to the supporters of his defeated rival, Sen. John Kerry, and promising to lead the United States toward new paths of greatness.

    "I will do all I can do to deserve your trust," Bush said in an overture to Kerry supporters. "We have one country, one Cons ution, and one future binds us."

    Bush claimed a re-election mandate Wednesday after a record 59 million Americans chose him over Kerry, capturing a 51-percent popular-vote majority that erased the shadow that followed his 2000 victory. His Electoral College margin was close but clear at 279-252.


    Can't let you get away with fudging the numbers dan. Just wouldn't be right.

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    i'll take the mathmatical work of the person who said evolution is full of holes, with a grain of salt.

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    And what then Dan, back to this? Not a viable alternative.
    The Democratic party announced a long laundry list of alternatives to aid the victims of Hurricane Katrina today...

    The following are just some examples of proposals that Senate Democrats believe deserve immediate Senate action this week:

    Ensuring health care for all displaced victims

    * Immediate access to Medicaid for displaced victims.
    * No need to prove residency or assets
    * No copayments
    * No penalties for failing to sign up for Medicare Part B in time. . . .

    Getting victims housing

    * Emergency housing vouchers for displaced victims
    * Expedited application procedures with no red tape.
    * No tenant contributions until they find work.
    * Tax incentives for private families to take in victims.
    * Identify federal facilities that can house victims.
    * Relief for homeowners facing threat of foreclosure. . . .

    Getting victims to family members and friends

    Many of Katrina's victims have little or no access to transportation. Although FEMA has legal authority to address this, the agency seems overwhelmed and has proven unable on its own to meet the compelling needs of countless numbers of stranded victims. We therefore need to make this a White House priority and direct the President to lead a broad effort to quickly ensure that displaced victims can get to family, friends and others who can provide them with room and board.

    Getting students into school

    Many of Katrina's victims are children who need to enroll in a new school. To encourage schools to accept these victims, and alleviate some of the resulting burdens, we should provide funding to school districts that accept displaced children. This funding could be used to hire additional teachers, teachers' aides, or counselors, or to provide temporary expansions of classrooms. A similar program should be provided for ins utions of higher education that admit displaced students.

    Bringing victims' families together and placing them with other families

    The government should establish a toll free "800" number and web site through which victims could access a national victim database and information about available assistance. Displaced individuals could register and provide contact information, so that separated family members and friends could find each other. The database also would allow volunteers to sign up if they are willing to provide free shelter to victims.

    Getting victims cash to meet other basic needs

    To ensure that victims can get cash for their basic needs, we should strengthen and expand the Disaster Unemployment Insurance Program and automatically extend any expiring UI benefits that victims are receiving. We also should give the President authority to increase the $26,200 statutory cap on cash assistance through the Individuals and Households Program, and should waive the 25 percent matching requirement for States in the Gulf region. In addition, victims should be allowed to withdraw funds from individual retirement accounts (IRA's) penalty-free, with extra contributions permitted later.
    I didn't post it all as this is a very comprehensive statement. Here is the rest.

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    well another fact is the common american is a big dumbass too
    Yep, that's what John Kerry was counting on... I guess most Americans got the message.

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    Katrina Commission, coming soon.

    "Mr. President, where were you 5-7 minutes after you found about the threat of Hurrican Katrina"?

    Politics-Schmolotics.

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    the Katrina Commission will come to the same conclusion the 911 Commission found.. that on all levels of govt. they failed... so save about 500 million on this stupid commission and give it to hurricane victims in need...

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    The following are just some examples of proposals that Senate Democrats believe deserve immediate Senate action this week:

    Ensuring health care for all displaced victims: this is bull . just basic healthcare if they were hurt. doctors have said that many of the people they've seen had preexisting conditions that had never been treated.

    * Immediate access to Medicaid for displaced victims.
    * No need to prove residency or assets
    * No copayments
    * No penalties for failing to sign up for Medicare Part B in time. . . .

    Getting victims housing

    * Emergency housing vouchers for displaced victims
    * Expedited application procedures with no red tape.
    * No tenant contributions until they find work. i am sure they will readily be looking for work
    * Tax incentives for private families to take in victims.
    * Identify federal facilities that can house victims.
    * Relief for homeowners facing threat of foreclosure. . . . this should only happen if they weren't late more than a set amount of times inthe previous 3 years.

    Getting victims cash to meet other basic needs

    To ensure that victims can get cash for their basic needs, we should strengthen and expand the Disaster Unemployment Insurance Program and automatically extend any expiring UI benefits that victims are receiving. We also should give the President authority to increase the $26,200 statutory cap on cash assistance through the Individuals and Households Program, and should waive the 25 percent matching requirement for States in the Gulf region. In addition, victims should be allowed to withdraw funds from individual retirement accounts (IRA's) penalty-free, with extra contributions permitted later. 26,200? that seems like a lot. i bet many of the people applying have never had 25k in their life. i think this needs to be extremely red tape otherwise, it will be abused!

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    Yep, that's what John Kerry was counting on... I guess most Americans got the message.

    funny how most americans voted bush that election

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    Washing Away the Conservative Movement
    By William Rivers Pitt
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    Tuesday 06 September 2005


    The responsibility of ministers for the public safety is absolute, and requires no mandate. It is in fact the prime object for which governments come into existence.

    -- Winston Churchill

    Somewhere, at this moment, a neoconservative is seething.

    It isn't fair, he rages within. We had it wired. The House is ours, the Senate is ours, the Supreme Court is ours, the Justice Department is ours, the television news media is bought and paid for. We could act with impunity, say whatever we needed to say to get what we want, do whatever wanted, and no one could touch us. We could refashion the nation as we saw fit, whether people wanted to come along with us or not, because we know better.

    We followed Leo Strauss's edicts to the letter, growls the seething neoconservative. Strauss, our neoconservative godfather, told us that this nation is best run by an elite that does not have to bother with the will or desires of the populace. Strauss told us we didn't even have to bother with the truth while pursuing our agenda. We are the elite, and we know best.

    Somewhere, at this moment, a neoconservative is seething because his entire belief structure regarding government has been laid waste by a storm of singular ferocity. Hurricane Katrina has destroyed lives, ravaged a city, damaged our all-important petroleum infrastructure, and left every American with scenes of chaos and horror seared forever into their minds. Simultaneously, Hurricane Katrina has annihilated the fundamental underpinnings of conservative governmental philosophy.

    What we are seeing in New Orleans is the end result of what can be best described as extended Reaganomics. Small government, budget cuts across the board, tax cuts meant to financially strangle the ability of federal agencies to function, the diversion of billions of what is left in the budget into military spending: This has been the aim and desire of the conservative movement for decades now, and they have been largely successful in their efforts.

    Combine this with a wildly expensive and unnecessary war, rampant cronyism that replaces professionals with unqualified hacks at nearly every level of government, and the basic neoconservative/Straussian premise that the truth is not important and that the so-called elite know best, and you have this catastrophe laid out on a platter. The conservative and neoconservative plan for the way this country should be run has been blasted to matchsticks, their choice of priorities exposed as lacking, to say the very least.

    The Katrina disaster in a nuts : A storm that had been listed for years as #3 on America's list of "Worst Possible Things That Could Happen" arrives in New Orleans to find levees unprepared because massive budget cuts stripped away any ability to repair and augment them. The storm finds FEMA, the national agency tasked to deal with the aftermath of natural disasters, run by Bush friend Michael Brown, a guy who got fired from his last job representing the rights of Arabian horse owners. The storm finds a goodly chunk of the Louisiana National Guard sitting in a desert 7,000 miles away with their high-water Humvees parked beside them. The storm finds that our ins utional decades-old unwillingness to address poverty issues left tens of thousands of people unable to get out of the way of the ram.

    Grover Norquist, one of the ideological leaders of our current administration, once said he wanted to shrink the federal government until it was small enough to be drowned in a bathtub. Well, those who believe in his view of things have worked very hard to accomplish this, and we see now what happens when you do that. In this case, the government did not drown. An American city did.

    Early estimates of the costs to repair the damage to New Orleans are rolling above $100 billion. The invasion and occupation of Iraq has cost many times more than that. The gigantic tax cuts of a few years ago further denuded the federal budget. Conservative and neoconservative dogma required this, and has left us singularly vulnerable. They have always wanted a weakened federal government, and now we have one, and a lot of people are dead because of it. The cost of this storm, plus the cost of the tax cuts, plus the cost of the Iraq war, plus the long-term damage to our economy caused by high gasoline prices, is going to kick the guts out of our government for a very long time to come.

    In so many ultimately dangerous ways, their exposure is complete. For the last four years, we have been inundated with the claim that only Bush and the neocons can protect us from terrorism. The justification and shield for every action taken, no matter how absurd, has been that it is for our own good and defense. That's all dust now. "This is the Law and Order and Terror government," writes MSNBC newsman Keith Olbermann in his blog. "It promised protection - or at least amelioration - against all threats: conventional, radiological, or biological. It has just proved that it cannot save its citizens from a biological weapon called standing water."

    Above and beyond the fact that the levees have broken all around the governmental philosophies of the conservative/neoconservative crew is the question of whether this could have been avoided with a little bit of personal responsibility. There is a lot of finger-pointing going on at the highest levels right now; at one point over the weekend, Bush defenders absurdly attempted to blame the Mayor of New Orleans for what happened. One boggles when trying to determine how the mayor of one city bears the responsibility for the damage and lack of rescue response that took place in Mississippi, Alabama and outside the realm of his parishes. This was a nicely Straussian twist on the truth, straight out of the playbook.

    Could it have been avoided? Let's ask the National Weather Service, which sent out this alert on Sunday, August 28th: "A hurricane warning is in effect for the north central gulf coast from Morgan City, Louisiana, eastward to the Alabama/Florida border, including the city of New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain. Maximum sustained winds are near 160 mph with higher gusts. Katrina is a large hurricane. Coastal storm surge flooding of 18 to 22 feet above normal tide levels, locally as high as 28 feet, along with large and dangerous battering waves, can be expected near and to the east of where the center makes landfall. Some levees in the greater New Orleans area could be overtopped."

    "Some levees in the greater New Orleans area could be overtopped." That was Sunday. Monday passed, and then Tuesday, and then Wednesday, and then Thursday, and then Friday, and then the weekend came, before any action of any significance whatsoever was taken to protect the lives of the citizens of that city.

    Also on Sunday the 28th, Governor Blanco of Louisiana dispatched a letter to Bush formally requesting help for the horror she saw rolling towards her state over the southern horizon. "Under the provisions of Section 401 of the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, 42 USC. 5121-5206 (Stafford Act), and implemented by 44 CFR 206.36, I request that you declare an expedited major disaster for the state of Louisiana as Hurricane Katrina, a Category V hurricane approaches our coast south of New Orleans; beginning on August 28, 2005 and continuing," read the letter. She went on in great detail over four full pages to list a series of requests that, had they been granted, would have spared thousands of people from death.

    She was flatly ignored. Forget the fact that a hurricane hitting New Orleans has been on the danger list for decades. The Bush folks got the word on Sunday, not once but twice, and instead of swinging into action, they literally ate cake.

    Have they learned anything from this? Hardly. The most important bit on this week's conservative agenda, beyond stuffing Mr. Roberts into the Chief Justice chair, is to repeal the estate tax. Yes, that's correct, before we do anything else, we have to make sure the rich of this nation get an even larger slice of the pie. This caused DNC Chairman Howard Dean to launch a singularly pointed salvo over the weekend.

    "Countless thousands of our fellow Americans throughout the Gulf Coast region continue to suffer in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina," said Dean. "While some have begun the painful task of rebuilding their lives and coping with the unfathomable loss, so many still await help. And the cost of this disaster in human and material terms remains unknown. It's simply irresponsible for Senator Frist and Ken Mehlman to even think about spending our tax dollars on breaks for millionaires at a time when our top priority must be to ensure we have the resources needed to address the long and short term costs associated with rescue, recovery, and rebuilding in the wake of hurricane Katrina. Not to mention the vital lesson we learned this week about the deadly cost of diverting funds at the expense of the safety of the American people. These costs, continued Dean, "also come at a time when our nation faces a massive deficit, and mounting costs in the ongoing war in Iraq."

    It isn't irresponsible, Chairman. It's standard operating procedure. They've been doing it like this for so long that they've forgotten how to do it any other way. They are such true believers that they cannot fathom doing it any other way. Likely, they will get away with it, and the loss of estate tax revenues will further damage our nation's ability to care for its own.

    The house of cards has fallen in. A generation of conservative thinking, combined with five years of neoconservative thrashing, has finally come to an unavoidable head. The agencies tasked to protect us - FEMA and the Department of Homeland Security to name two - have been proven to be utterly useless. The heads of these agencies - Chertoff and Brown - are the perfect avatars of Bush's way of doing business, insofar as they have no business being in the positions they are in. The conservative movement has failed spherically, from all sides and in all directions.

    So here's a thought: Let's repudiate these fools. When the basic software for the operating system of a computer is proven to be riddled with bugs and bad code, it is time to rewrite the whole thing. We have to do that here, with our government and ins utions, and we have to do it now. Throw conservative dogma into the dustbin of history where it belongs.

    Remember that a massive, highly industrialized and infrastructured, diverse nation requires an effective central government, funded properly and staffed by professionals and patriots, in order to keep the wheels on the road. Remember the words of that great Republican, Oliver Wendell Holmes, who said, "Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society." What we are seeing in New Orleans is not civilized society, but anarchy. The reasons for this are as clear as the nose on your face.

    They have failed us. Many people are dead because of it. It's time to change the software. Enough of this Boo Radley leadership.
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    The responsibility of ministers for the public safety is absolute, and requires no mandate. It is in fact the prime object for which governments come into existence.

    -- Winston Churchill
    ^^^Failed to get re-elected^^^

    The democratic and/or republican party is not dead.

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    i disagree....democratic party is as good as the green party


    the united states of america has come to a point in its history and heritege in which the majority of citizens simply think, act, and want to be conservative

    the common american these days doesn't think well those regulations are too harsh, they think ohhh stop ing you lefty anti american, support our leaders, they're our leaders

    the common american simply wants to be conservative

    and since we're in this point of the empire cycle, its quite clear america will fall within our children's lifetimes at the latest

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    add that to the fact that virtually all elections are counted by privately owned electronic voting machines, and you find it all but impossible for the democrats to ever regain a hold in the federal gov

    the common american doesn't even look into why this could be bad

    they eat the bull being fed to them (because they're being fed by a leader), smile, and keep walking

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    I've reached a point where I don't want any of you nutjobs running my life.

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    you should not want anyone running your life thats what i was saying...

    yet with a patriot act, and patriot act II still waiting to be ratified, these conservative godheads of yours are doing just that

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