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    I think it's safe to say the NBA became unwatchable after TD retired

    The wheels fell off
    The fact that a capable player like TD was sitting on the bench at end of games vs. the Warriors was a sad commentary on the league tbh.

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    White men didnít financially benefit from slavery

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    I think it's safe to say the NBA became unwatchable after TD retired

    The wheels fell off
    The fact that a capable player like TD was sitting on the bench at end of games vs. the Warriors was a sad commentary on the league tbh.

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    The NBA was looking to go fast paced fun and gun D'antoni style for a long time. TD and the Spurs were "boring". The writing was on the wall.

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    There was no defense before either lol
    Thatís what you took away from it?
    There was defense when I was a kid growing up btw. Sorry you didnít get to see the Bulls in the 90s smothering teams or the 99-03 Spurs or heck even the 04-05 Pistons.

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    Thatís what you took away from it?
    There was defense when I was a kid growing up btw. Sorry you didnít get to see the Bulls in the 90s smothering teams or the 99-03 Spurs or heck even the 04-05 Pistons.
    I did watch the Bulls in the 90s and didnít see all that amazing D or muhphysicality every nostslgic dude is talking about : lol

    I mean look at this

    https://youtu.be/5zQAGYRjaIs

    90s Knicks ę defense Ľ
    Ian Mahinmi

    https://youtu.be/vcktdn1WnaU
    Last edited by lefty; 04-27-2021 at 08:05 PM.

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    That’s what you took away from it?
    There was defense when I was a kid growing up btw. Sorry you didn’t get to see the Bulls in the 90s smothering teams or the 99-03 Spurs or heck even the 04-05 Pistons.
    Lefty's trolling. A few years ago he was a Jordan stan who used to on today's NBA for all the softness and three point shooting

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    Well maybe thatís a good thing

    Maybe Muricans will watch less sports on TV and actually play those sports and stop being SO FAT
    I've been watching alot of Food Network



    Guy's Tournament of Champions was intense

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    Lefty's trolling. A few years ago he was a Jordan stan who used to on today's NBA for all the softness and three point shooting
    Lol weíre not robots , opinions can change
    I removed nostalgia goggles thatís all

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    Lol we’re not robots , opinions can change
    I removed nostalgia goggles that’s all
    lol its funny to me bc we used to argue relentlessly against each other on this same topic. then I had stopped posting here for a couple years, come back and see you agreeing with me. i was convinced you were trolling at first too

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    Q s opinions mean all, i'll tell you why the ratings are down:

    1. the product this year is garbage. teams are constantly missing key guys, big time players like lebron/AD missing huge chunks of the season, Brooklyn guys have only played 168 mins together, and every night teams are playing half a squad of no names against their opponent

    2. no fans in the arenas most of the year. a lot of people cant watch without the crowd as it takes away from the enjoyment/immersion of the game

    3. television ratings. only boomers look at TV ratings being indicative of anything. more people shift away from cable, there arent a lot of other good ways to consistently watch ball, and with a lot of people having financial setbacks in the last year, cable is probably one of the first things to get cut. not only that, but again, most people dont watch TV anymore. when you can stream games illegally or just follow them online, why pay for cable?

    4. threepoint spamfests constantly lead to blowouts and boring games on national television. people are tired of players load managing and not playing in marquee games so they're tuning out.

    5. the "woke" probably plays a role but its being vastly overstated. ratings are down across all sports. iirc stanley cup had pitiful ratings this year and they're the most non-woke league full of white dudes in sports, so whats the problem here?

    6. no interesting storylines this year (that would interest casuals)



    gots like derp and qhrisbot love stroking each other to Oscar ratings or whatever stupid ass talking point chuck callesto or tucker carlson gives them, but they're certified board re s and everyone knows this. the reality is there are a mul ude of factors but the biggest ones are the product on the court is just not as entertaining as it was because of constant threepoint spamfest blowouts and the covid protcols forcing guys to sit out make for a bad product
    yep i'd also add the bit about nba marketing focus on drawing in the casuals (ie social media strategy, highlights, also i think broader rule changes like the 3pters, high scores, less defense, prop up snowflake shooters, etc.) while neglecting/annoying actual fans ... and not drawing in the casuals because WHY WOULD YOU FOCUS ON MARKETING BASKETBALL TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T REALLY LIKE BASKETBALL

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    lol its funny to me bc we used to argue relentlessly against each other on this same topic. then I had stopped posting here for a couple years, come back and see you agreeing with me. i was convinced you were trolling at first too

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    Also other sports/leagues have done a good job gaining a lot of new, younger fans through good PR/com/use of social media

    Formula 1 is a good example of that

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    Lol we’re not robots , opinions can change
    I removed nostalgia goggles that’s all
    And went overboard. Athleticism is not a be all.
    Today's player lacks for ude. Game is soft as Charmin now.

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    And went overboard. Athleticism is not a be all.
    Today's player lacks for ude. Game is soft as Charmin now.
    Yeah it was so soft back in the days that Kareem and Magic looked at the refs instead of tracking back everytime someoe stripped the ball from them

    Or Jordan who cried to Stern because the Pistons were to tough for him
    Or Jordan who complained to the refs every night during his career

    Tough guys

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    Yeah it was so soft back in the days that Kareem and Magic looked at the refs instead of tracking back everytime someoe stripped the ball from them

    Or Jordan who cried to Stern because the Pistons were to tough for him
    Or Jordan who complained to the refs every night during his career

    Tough guys
    But that's the point. Stern had to soften it up for his pets; but the game on the whole was tougher. Bird and Dr. J never ed.

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    But that's the point. Stern had to soften it up for his pets; but the game on the whole was tougher. Bird and Dr. J never ed.
    Bird?
    Are you sure?

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    Lol weíre not robots , opinions can change
    I removed nostalgia goggles thatís all
    Please put the goggles back on old man

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    No, ty refereeing killed the NBA.

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    But I have to be honest and let you know as a former Los Angelino (moved 2016) after talking to many Laker fans during the 2020 bubble and asking them if they are watching the Lakers dominance about 80-90% said they stopped watching due to iden y politics.
    There is no way 80 to 90% of people even know what the phrase iden y politics even means lmfao

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    Bird?
    Are you sure?
    If we're not counting calling out with cause as ing, then yea, I'm quite sure.

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    No, ty refereeing killed the NBA.
    For purists. It garnered all kinds of money for the league in theory.

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    Please put the goggles back on old man
    OldSteveRogersNoIdontThinkIWill.gif

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    If we're not counting calling out with cause as ing, then yea, I'm quite sure.
    If he was a real man he wouldnít have ran away from his daughter
    He is a ing pussy

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    No, ty refereeing killed the NBA.
    So that means the NBA died in the 80s-90s

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