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    Would be such an awful trade for Portland.
    IMO, any trade involving Lillard would have to have him going to a contender. Portland will want to do right by him. Thereís very few playoff teams with assets like Philly, even if you say Simmonsí value is low right now, they could still be fooled by his potential.

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    Terrific win for Atlanta. Doing this with 2 lottery picks in street clothes too.
    I've got Bucks in 5 but didn't pick Atl going into this series so who knows.

    Not saying Tre Mann is in Dame or Trae's class (at least yet), but how does this not boost his stock at least a little.
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    lmao wow. What an awful, awful thing to say as a coach.

    Ben is gone.

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    lmao wow. What an awful, awful thing to say as a coach.

    Ben is gone.
    That's a coach who doesn't care about preserving any trade value....just trying to cya

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    Simmons for Dame swap. I’m calling it.
    Set the sights lower... McCollum is probably to much for them to hope for now... think Porzingis or Kemba level...

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    Quitters isn’t wrong but holy what an unprofessional got like always. One of my most hated coaches of all time.

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    Twitter clowning Ben hard tonight





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    Set the sights lower... McCollum is probably to much for them to hope for now... think Porzingis or Kemba level...
    fine, Eubanks for Simmons. Book it!!

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    fine, Eubanks for Simmons. Book it!!

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    Geez...

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    Benís shameful performance is a slap in the face to Embiid if Embiid was truly playing with an injury

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    As if this situation didnít need more yikes

    would hate to be in that locker room right now

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    Said in the very start of this thread...Sixers were fake contenders, and always will be if they are expecting to be led by a point guard who refuses to shoot the ball.

    5 points on 4 attempts in a Game 7? That's just pathetic. , at least Bryn Forbes isn't afraid to try to make his mark on the game.

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    That's a coach who doesn't care about preserving any trade value....just trying to cya
    , Doc should be next in line.

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    , Doc should be next in line.
    Nah
    Doc's a record holder

    https://hoopshype.com/2020/09/16/doc...s-lead-record/

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    Said in the very start of this thread...Sixers were fake contenders, and always will be if they are expecting to be led by a point guard who refuses to shoot the ball.

    5 points on 4 attempts in a Game 7? That's just pathetic. , at least Bryn Forbes isn't afraid to try to make his mark on the game.
    IMO, everyone is a fake contender unless they win it all or if they find themselves in the Conf Finals every year. We can argue that both the Lakers and the Heat last year were fake contenders since they were bounced in the first round this year.

    I’ll repeat my mantra: a team that loses in the Finals is as close to a championship as the one that loses in the first round. Unless you’re a team known for consistency, things change so quick in the NBA.

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    IMO, everyone is a fake contender unless they win it all or if they find themselves in the Conf Finals every year. We can argue that both the Lakers and the Heat last year were fake contenders since they were bounced in the first round this year.

    Iíll repeat my mantra: a team that loses in the Finals is as close to a championship as the one that loses in the first round. Unless youíre a team known for consistency, things change so quick in the NBA.
    Fair enough, but you also have to acknowledge patterns as they emerge.

    Sixers since the end of the Process:

    '18 - Lost in the Semis
    '19 - Lost in the Semis
    '20 - Swept in the first round
    '21 - Lost in the Semis

    I think it's safe to say that once the Warriors have a healthy Steph/Klay/Green....they will be contenders.

    Obviously, the Nets will be back next year once Kyrie/Harden/Durant are all healthy.

    Lakers are still a good bet just with LeBron and Davis.

    But the Sixers...they aren't winning a damn thing as currently constructed...but every year, casual fans and the media want to act like they are some force to be reckoned with.

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    Fair enough, but you also have to acknowledge patterns as they emerge.

    Sixers since the end of the Process:

    '18 - Lost in the Semis
    '19 - Lost in the Semis
    '20 - Swept in the first round
    '21 - Lost in the Semis

    I think it's safe to say that once the Warriors have a healthy Steph/Klay/Green....they will be contenders.

    Obviously, the Nets will be back next year once Kyrie/Harden/Durant are all healthy.

    Lakers are still a good bet just with LeBron and Davis.

    But the Sixers...they aren't winning a damn thing as currently constructed...but every year, casual fans and the media want to act like they are some force to be reckoned with.
    Agreed.

    Real contenders at the moment are (assuming injury-free):

    Nuggets
    Nets
    Bucks (as flawed as they are, theyíre relatively young and their stars are locked up for years to come. They could maintain their current level or improve)
    Warriors

    I cant call the Suns true contenders yet. Paul could fall off the cliff at any moment due to his age and heís a big part of their success. If Paul isnít the same, they wonít reach this level next year. All assuming Devin Book doesnít go Jordan from here or they wonít find a replacement Point guard who can be the general for the team.

    Lakers are shaky, and IMO itís all downhill from here for them.

    so four, maybe five, real contenders right now.

    everyone else is on the same playing field. Anyone can catapult themselves or drop like a rock this offseason. Itís all up to what they do.

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    I think it's safe to say that once the Warriors have a healthy Steph/Klay/Green....they will be contenders.

    But the Sixers...they aren't winning a damn thing as currently constructed...but every year, casual fans and the media want to act like they are some force to be reckoned with.





    Agreed.

    Real contenders at the moment are (assuming injury-free):

    Nuggets
    Nets
    Bucks (as flawed as they are, theyíre relatively young and their stars are locked up for years to come. They could maintain their current level or improve)
    Warriors


    Clippers, Nets, Lakers, Bucks.

    Lakers will face an uphill battle, but despite seeming lack of assets/flexibility needed to improve, I wouldn't bet against the combination of Lakers mystique/James and to a lesser extent Davis's ability to recruit.

    Nuggets will have to wait another season, since Murray's torn ACL happened so late that it'll prevent him being 100%, if he returns at all.

    Suns are close, but as you alluded to, Paul's age/health/size combination is a concern as is the lack of an obvious star replacement.

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    Philly has the center piece and if you have that you always have a chance. Lets not forget who their GM is. He's not afraid to make whatever moves are necessary to make them a contenter. He will pursue every free agent available and every possible trade.
    If Embiid is healthy(big if) they will be a contenting team.

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    Philly has the center piece and if you have that you always have a chance. Lets not forget who their GM is. He's not afraid to make whatever moves are necessary to make them a contenter. He will pursue every free agent available and every possible trade.
    If Embiid is healthy(big if) they will be a contenting team.
    Embiid is a great player...kinda feel bad for him actually. He does give them a punchers chance, but that FO has completely mismanaged everything around him.

    It's crazy to think that for all those years of tanking, the Sixers FO whiffed on Okafor, whiffed on Fultz, and now its looking like they wiffed on Simmons.

    They keep re-tooling every year to try to build a contender, but ran off Butler so they could double-down on Simmons...and now he has a huge contract which is going to cost them one way or the other. They will have to either pay to trade him, or have a $30M-$40M player who you can't trust to finish games.

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    The Sixers didn’t whiff on drafting Simmons. They whiffed on trading him before he continued to get worse. 2018-2019 could have had a boatload for him. Almost certainly could have had Kawhi or heck, traded him to move in to grab Luka.

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    Embiid is a great player...kinda feel bad for him actually. He does give them a punchers chance, but that FO has completely mismanaged everything around him.

    It's crazy to think that for all those years of tanking, the Sixers FO whiffed on Okafor, whiffed on Fultz, and now its looking like they wiffed on Simmons.

    They keep re-tooling every year to try to build a contender, but ran off Butler so they could double-down on Simmons...and now he has a huge contract which is going to cost them one way or the other. They will have to either pay to trade him, or have a $30M-$40M player who you can't trust to finish games.
    They didn't have Morey back then, now they do, and we know what he does from his Rockets years, he's an aggressive GM, he will go ham this offseason.

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    Suns guard with a bloody nose, hmmm, where have we seen that before.

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    Basketball gods bailing out the Clippers like usual

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