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    no, but my whole worldview isn't so simplistic as just starting with the premise of "US bad" and then just going from there
    ...at least not since you robbed President Trump of his other 4-years. I see thru you, 21, you could wear two mink coats and I'd still see thru you. You're a piss pot and you've always been such.

    Ya, piss pot, you!!!

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    no, but my whole worldview isn't so simplistic as just starting with the premise of "US bad" and then just going from there
    US imperialism and regime change is BAD

    Thats a fact. Just look at the dozens of examples throughout history.

    U still believe regime change and "spreading democracy" is good

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    US imperialism and regime change is BAD

    Thats a fact. Just look at the dozens of examples throughout history.
    i dont disagree with this.

    U still believe regime change and "spreading democracy" is good
    i dont agree with this

    but its still re ed for an entire worldview to start with the conclusion that "Country X is bad" and then just keep working backwards from there to resolve every issue or answer every question
    Last edited by spurraider21; 07-14-2021 at 01:09 PM.

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    i dont disagree with this.




    i dont agree with this
    So u agree the US interventions to impose regime change in Venezuela, Iran, Cuba are BAD right?

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    Polska defeated communism but required us to dive deep into religion that still lingers today. Worth the price but it isn't easy.

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    So u agree the US interventions to impose regime change in Venezuela, Iran, Cuba are BAD right?
    you're missing a bunch there, but yeah

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    you're missing a bunch there, but yeah
    Good me.too

    So I guess we both hate the USA

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    So u agree the US interventions to impose regime change in Venezuela, Iran, Cuba are BAD right?
    you're missing a bunch there, but yeah
    Yes, but I'm looking the other way (like I always do when it's a Democrat in charge)

    That subtext.

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    Good me.too

    So I guess we both hate the USA
    The US does a lot of bad things, but it gets some right, like immigration and multiculturalism. One of the great social experiments in the last few hundred years.

    im not above criticizing the US’s mistakes, but when i see an issue, i don’t base my opinion on “america bad, so therefore the right answer is x”.

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    What needs to happen is the embargo needs to be lifted, as Obama partially did back in the day.

    Embargoes and sanctions only affects the average citizens, not the leadership, and while the intention is to get the little guy pissed off to revolt, it actually give the dictator a clear, unambiguous enemy to point fingers to.

    If the US wants to topple the government there, then they should do that, and stop ing around starving the common person.

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    Eyup.

    Chumpettes will go with whatever their neocons decide though, tbh.

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    US has been screwing/bullying Cuba for 60 years, and for 30 years after USSR collapsed and stopped subsidizing Cuba.

    What is the point? Capitalism must destroy every "socialist" country in the New World?

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    "state-sponsored" feels slightly exaggerated, "police sponsored" feels somewhat closer to the mark


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    "state-sponsored" feels slightly exaggerated, "police sponsored" feels somewhat closer to the mark

    So, you don't think Cuba is a police state?

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    "state-sponsored" feels slightly exaggerated, "police sponsored" feels somewhat closer to the mark

    So, you don't think Cuba is a police state?

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    So, you don't think Cuba is a police state?
    doesn't know what "police" means in context

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    Much of latin America has looked like that for several decades, and in the pandemic camps are spreading everywhere... I wouldn't take those fotos as evidence of anything, if anything it's more proof of the obvious effects of the 60 year blockade that has been crippling their economy for generations

    The us put more sanctions on a general now, making him responsible for 100 arrests and repressing dissent- in the past year there have been police-protestor deaths, mutilations, 1000s of arrests in Bolivia, Colombia, and Chile and the us didn't sanction anyone, because the govts in those cases are(were in Bolivia) pro-US.. its farcical for a south American to see that, it shows that human rights are (still) just a cudgel the right and left use when convenient.

    The Cuban revolution was undoubtedly good for Cubans, but between the blockade, invasion and assassination attempts, and the failure to transition from Fidel, it stagnated and lost synergy with the people, the new generation don't remember what it was like before the revolution, the only misery they know is the revolution. They need change but I hope for their sake it comes from within, we already know what the us considers "good" govts and that's not good news for their citizens, not 50 years ago or today

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    Who runs those cities, Whinetroll?

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    So, you don't think Cuba is a police state?
    Also, question still pending, whinetroll.

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    say, doesn't the US still have a extrajudicial torture prison in Cuba?

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