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    Biden is running again in 2024.

    Theres also a reason he’s giving Kamala nothing but sandwiches to deal with that do nothing to up her popularity (border crisis, getting impossible voting rights legislation done, etc.) while Buttigieg is getting a massive infrastructure bill on his resume. He knows which one is actually electable and which one isn’t.

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    if your brother is an expat living in Jamaica he could have voted by mail, so that’s a pretty stupid and anecdotal example.

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    if your brother is an expat living in Jamaica he could have voted by mail, so thatís a pretty stupid and anecdotal example.
    And you know nothing about the lack of reliability of mail in a third world country - lol - at depending on that ballot getting to him much less going back to Miami in time (or at all).

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    And you know nothing about the lack of reliability of mail in a third world country - lol - at depending on that ballot getting to him much less going back to Miami in time (or at all).
    Mail votes cast in other countries go to the local embassy, not Miami... smh... he can also vote in person at the US embassy...

    This is embarrassing...

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    The suburbs have been slowly trending blue for decades, all Trump did was kick that trend into overdrive and itís not going to reverse unless the GOP moderates itself on things like climate change.
    Gallup poll shows largest increase in Democratic Party affiliation in a decade
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...de/7114860002/

    It would appear so.

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    Gallup poll shows largest increase in Democratic Party affiliation in a decade
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...de/7114860002/

    It would appear so.
    I don't think the gap is that wide unfortunately. A lot of the people who identify as non-partisan independence are KarrinS honest broker types who wouldn't be caught dead voting Democrat.

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    I don't think the gap is that wide unfortunately. A lot of the people who identify as non-partisan independence are KarrinS honest broker types who wouldn't be caught dead voting Democrat.
    (nods) "I'm not part of party X, but I will vote for party X 90% of the time".

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    It's July 2021 and you still believe in the covid sniffle scamdemic hoax.
    600k+ dead is not a hoax.

    Unless you are an idiot.

    Are you an idiot?
    [crickets]

    Seriously, explain what exactly the hoax is/was. Defend this, if you have the stones.

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    I agree she's mostly an empty pantsuit. Still, bottom line is US white males can't handle any Democratic woman in charge. Even if she succeeds early and does great, she's toast.
    In contrast to which male demographic on planet earth handling women in charge?

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    Gallup poll shows largest increase in Democratic Party affiliation in a decade
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...de/7114860002/

    It would appear so.
    In this article these people polled over the phone basically shifted from Republican to Independent.

    Democrats didn't seem to gain in total just margin.

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    Sums it up.

    The only thing worse than a black guy is a woman.

    They will lose what is left of their minds..
    they'd line up in lines longer than the Trump lines to vote for a Marsha Blackburn or a good black candidate like Tim Scott

    Unless his health gives out between now and 2024, Trump still gives the GOP the best chance imo. He gets more rural turnout than any other GOP candidate and no one else has the populist appeal.

    One big misconception a lot of non-MAGA Republicans seem to be making is thinking a more polite version of Trump can win the suburbs back. The suburbs have been slowly trending blue for decades, all Trump did was kick that trend into overdrive and itís not going to reverse unless the GOP moderates itself on things like climate change. The meal ticket for the GOP is to continue winning working class whites at Trump-sized margins and to eat into the Demsí margins with uneducated minorities the way Trump did last yearÖ.the educated suburban white voter isnít coming back though.

    There are just so many intangibles about Trump as the candidate that people donít appreciate. For basically the 30 years prior to his run for president he was depicted as the paragon of American wealth and success by most media outlets in the country. Thereís no way another candidate can replicate that, and I donít think the fact DeSantis is a more polished communicator + actually had a scintilla of human decency thatís displayed when a disaster occurs in his state comes close to outweighing all the unique stuff about Trump.
    You aren't wrong. Maybe he can make the suburban white collar class less blue by winning back the men of that demographic. But the female suburban white yuppies are overwhelmingly blue these days and that won't change.

    Trump needs to make severe inroads with Hispanics and minorities in general in order to win again. Run up the score on non-college educated/indoctrinated, of all races. Appeal to Hispanics' social conservatism... provide a path to citizenship for those who are willing to immigrate the right way.
    Last edited by Millennial_Messiah; 07-21-2021 at 01:29 PM.

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    Biden is running again in 2024.

    Theres also a reason heís giving Kamala nothing but sandwiches to deal with that do nothing to up her popularity (border crisis, getting impossible voting rights legislation done, etc.) while Buttigieg is getting a massive infrastructure bill on his resume. He knows which one is actually electable and which one isnít.
    Unless he dies. If not he should be a slight favorite. Depends on how far to the right the minority % shifts in that case, and who is the GOP candidate. DeSantis is the only guy I think could beat him outside of maybe Trump if he rebounds... that said... Pence, Pompeo, Haley etc are all boring McCain/Romney types that would lose in similar fashion.

    if your brother is an expat living in Jamaica he could have voted by mail, so thatís a pretty stupid and anecdotal example.
    My wife's uncle is actually from Jamaica and emigrated to Wyoming after the SLC 2002 olympics because he loved America, GWB, and cold mountain weather instead of tropical Jamaican heat and humidity. He's black as night, he's a well known person in the Jamaican American community and he voted for Trump both times.

    And you know nothing about the lack of reliability of mail in a third world country - lol - at depending on that ballot getting to him much less going back to Miami in time (or at all).
    Jamaica might technically be third world in the technical specifics of the term, but it is definitely first world compared to most of other black-majority places in the region, tbh.

    In this article these people polled over the phone basically shifted from Republican to Independent.

    Democrats didn't seem to gain in total just margin.
    Yep. Because 2021 is a dark year for the GOP even darker than 2009 because of January 6th, and people who are conservative are afraid they'll be labeled as insurrectionists if they say they are GOP instead of independent.
    Last edited by Millennial_Messiah; 07-21-2021 at 01:32 PM.

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    Unless he dies. If not he should be a slight favorite. Depends on how far to the right the minority % shifts in that case, and who is the GOP candidate. DeSantis is the only guy I think could beat him outside of maybe Trump if he rebounds... that said... Pence, Pompeo, Haley etc are all boring McCain/Romney types that would lose in similar fashion.
    The odds of him dying are lower than the odds of Trump dying. He's only a few years older but he takes better care of himself and isn't a disgusting fat .

    Uneducated minorities favor the in bent regardless of party which is why I'd say Biden is the favorite in 2024 esp. if there's a good economy. Look at how 2004 Bush and 2020 Trump did with uneducated minorities. I think long term the GOP can make more inroads with that group but it'll be really hard to do in 2024 against an in bent.

    And no, winning back educated suburban men isn't happening either (esp. since the GOP hasn't lost nearly as many of them to begin with). The big questions imo are (i) how much more room does the GOP have to fall in the suburbs and (ii) are the Democrats done falling in rural America, or can their margins get worse in places like Wisconsin where rural white voters are still 35-40% Democrat?

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    In contrast to which male demographic on planet earth handling women in charge?
    There are plenty of countries with female leaders. You're too busy flying halfway around the world to go to a strip club to notice.

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    calling Coondace Owens an "intelligent minority woman". All she does is repeat racist right wing dog whistles to try and make them seem more credible coming from a "black woman."
    I swear her tweets read like they are written by some Boomer version of Chris

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    It's July 2021 and you still believe in the covid sniffle scamdemic hoax.
    600k+ dead is not a hoax.

    Unless you are an idiot.

    Are you an idiot?
    [crickets]


    Seriously, explain what exactly the hoax is/was. Defend this, if you have the stones.
    (snorts)

    Thought so. smh

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    they'd line up in lines longer than the Trump lines to vote for a Marsha Blackburn...


    Sure they would.

    Not.

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    Trump needs to make severe inroads with Hispanics and minorities in general in order to win again. Run up the score on non-college educated/indoctrinated, of all races. Appeal to Hispanics' social conservatism... provide a path to citizenship for those who are willing to immigrate the right way.
    Catch-22

    Be less racist = lose racist white people = gain some hispanics

    Given the party spine is essentially racist white people, that ain't never gonna happen.

    The GOP used to wink at the racists, but have now made the mistake of embracing them, and now they are pretty much in charge.

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    FWIW:

    GOP's far right playbook, explained in excruciating detail. Posted it before, but if you haven't watched it, it is worth watching.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMab...nnuendoStudios

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    Mail votes cast in other countries go to the local embassy, not Miami... smh... he can also vote in person at the US embassy...

    This is embarrassing...
    Please tell me where it says he can vote in person at the US Embassy - https://jm.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/voting/

    He is registered to vote in Miami where he has a house.

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    Please tell me where it says he can vote in person at the US Embassy - https://jm.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/voting/
    Here, from that link:

    Return Your Completed, Signed Ballot

    You can send your ballot through international mail, professional courier service, or use the diplomatic pouch. If using the diplomatic pouch, ballots can be dropped off to the American Citizen Services unit by bringing your sealed, addressed ballot with proper postage to:

    - The U.S. Embassy applicant entrance at 142 Old Hope Road, Kingston 6 between 7:15 a.m. and 4:00 p.m., Monday through Friday, except U.S. and Jamaican holidays.
    - U.S. Consular Agency Montego Bay at Whitter Village, Suite EU1, Rose Hall, St James between 9:00 a.m. and noon, Monday to Friday, except U.S. and Jamaican holidays.
    - U.S. Consular Agency Cayman Islands at Smith Road Center, Unit 202B, Grand Cayman between 8:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m., Monday to Friday, except U.S. and Cayman holidays.

    He is registered to vote in Miami where he has a house.
    As the link you provided notes, he can download and print the ballot from https://www.fvap.gov/, fill it up and bring it to the embassy.
    The only requirement is that it's done about a month in advance.

    There's no need to travel to the US to vote.

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    There are plenty of countries with female leaders. You're too busy flying halfway around the world to go to a strip club to notice.
    . I had an amazing trip tbh. Family came thru. Gorgeous women. So much heritage.

    Come to Krakůw and Gdańsk. Even if you don't fall for a girl, I guarantee you will for the city.

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    . I had an amazing trip tbh. Family came thru. Gorgeous women. So much heritage.

    Come to Krakůw and Gdańsk. Even if you don't fall for a girl, I guarantee you will for the city.
    You went to a strip club and tried to brag about it.

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    You went to a strip club and tried to brag about it.
    Not my personality to brag tbh

    Come to Cali. We'll talk about my Euro Trip

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