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    Bbiq is there….. skill is being honed! He’ll be a ok��

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    Bbiq is there….. skill is being honed! He’ll be a ok��
    I fully expect him to be “okay” but not the future perennial AS Spurs talk has him penciled in for.

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    I fully expect him to be “okay” but not the future perennial AS Spurs talk has him penciled in for.
    Wow, you, must be fun at parties.

    No one has penciled him in as an All Star. That his ceiling, but if you can’t tell the difference between a ceiling, and what he will become,I can’t help you. The kid has a crossover, step back 3 at barely 19. The most valuable shot in the NBA is a 3 pointer you can consistently create for yourself. Stephen Curry isn’t valuable because he shoots and makes as many 3 pointers as he does, at the rate he does. He’s valuable because a big chunk of them are unassisted. You can’t throw a zone at Curry, because he doesn’t ing care. You can’t play ball denial, because he’s already got the ball.

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    People who dismiss Primo this early are the same people who would cash out their 401k at the slight dip. Ideally you take the BPA. But in a team desperately missing a tier 1, you take a big swing with this pick. Right then he’s a project, but could be a high reward if he pans out. The kid is 19 and will do things 19 year old kids do. But he has shown big strides in his ballhandling, his defense is passable, and Pop even had him close last night. Just chill and enjoy this kid become an AS.

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    Wow, you, must be fun at parties.

    No one has penciled him in as an All Star. That his ceiling, but if you can’t tell the difference between a ceiling, and what he will become,I can’t help you. The kid has a crossover, step back 3 at barely 19. The most valuable shot in the NBA is a 3 pointer you can consistently create for yourself. Stephen Curry isn’t valuable because he shoots and makes as many 3 pointers as he does, at the rate he does. He’s valuable because a big chunk of them are unassisted. You can’t throw a zone at Curry, because he doesn’t ing care. You can’t play ball denial, because he’s already got the ball.
    You and your step back 3’s. He has hit 3 of them at the NBA level. I’m sure he will become a quality player over time I’m just pointing out that many posters believe we have something special here when I don’t see much difference between him Keldon, Vassell even Walker at this stage in their rookie years.

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    Primo has developed a hesitancy to shoot lately it seems. He's getting some decent minutes and should be more aggressive since he's supposed to be our future shooter. Let 'er fly, kid

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    Way too early to know what we have w Primo. Our player development curve says give him 2 years to cook and then see what is happening

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    Primo has developed a hesitancy to shoot lately it seems. He's getting some decent minutes and should be more aggressive since he's supposed to be our future shooter. Let 'er fly, kid
    To me, it seems Primo is spending all his energy and attention to getting his rotations and spots right on both sides of the court and not worrying about the other things.

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    I just stepped by to say this kid has some potential !

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    Very low bar. What’s important is where he gets to by year 3 or 4. At such a young age there is no need to sound the alarm but he has gotten pretty good run as a rookie and I don’t feel like he has shown much.
    Not really. Considering his age and current limited contribution.

    I have no issue with Lonnie’s progression. Some here want every pick to be an all star or they’re a bust. Lonnie has panned out nicely. Not a steal but solid.

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    Not really. Considering his age and current limited contribution.

    I have no issue with Lonnie’s progression. Some here want every pick to be an all star or they’re a bust. Lonnie has panned out nicely. Not a steal but solid.
    He's been a replacement player throughout his nearly four year career.

    In a vacuum, not a catastrophe for an 18th pick, but with his physical tools and raw skill set and this organization's reputation for player development, plus the fact that at the time he was their highest pick since Duncan, more was rightly expected.

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    Not really. Considering his age and current limited contribution.

    I have no issue with Lonnie’s progression. Some here want every pick to be an all star or they’re a bust. Lonnie has panned out nicely. Not a steal but solid.
    I mostly agree here. If Primo becomes a solid bench contributor great. Walker as a low bar is because he’s had every opportunity to put it together and hasn’t. Most teams would not have been as patient with him.

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    I mostly agree here. If Primo becomes a solid bench contributor great. Walker as a low bar is because he’s had every opportunity to put it together and hasn’t. Most teams would not have been as patient with him.
    I’m not sure that’s fair. I think most teams would have forgone developing him and simply cut him loose to see what he can do on his own. That to me would have been a disaster.

    What you have now is a more team oriented and focused mid level player that is capable of giving any team an offensive punch on any given night.

    He’s not a stud. He’s a great boost off the bench and every good team needs one.

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    He’s lost his swagger. That’s not ideal. Not much to be excited about right now with him. Hopefully he’s a gym rat.

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    Development isn't linear. I don't have any concern for Josh's recent performance. That said, I would hope that fans who expect the Spurs to improve mainly through the draft have taken in Primo's development. There's nothing abnormal about how he's playing. When you build through the draft, you're going to have years of decent talent playing poorly and a number of guys showing decently just as they're hitting free agency. If the Spurs choose the path of tanking until they get a star, they're likely to be bad for a long, long time. It's very possible that the Spurs draft well in a few months and still don't get a day-one starter out of the bunch. The team can and should look to make at least one big move pretty soon. Being young isn't the same thing as having a far-off window or long timeline. Windows only exist when they're open. If they Spurs are going to have a window, it'll be because they made the moves to force it open for a few years. What's unlikely to happen is a window opens because guys like Vassell, Primo and future picks just organically improve while on rookie deals.

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    I fully expect him to be “okay” but not the future perennial AS Spurs talk has him penciled in for.
    Sadly, I've come to agree. He is less athletic than I originally had him slated to be. He is better against larger defenders on the perimeter yet routinely gets scored on in the paint when he is facing one in the paint.

    Offensively, he has less breakdown capabilities 1 on 1 than I originally hoped he had. He's gonna be a solid mid range and 3 pt guy which will eventually open up the drive for him but until he develops his shot a bit more, he needs to already be open to get off open shots. There was one atrocious drive last night where that was underscored.

    be good, no doubt. Just not sure he's gonna ever be a perennial an All-Star or even routinely the best player / scorer on the team. That said hes young af and the Spurs have a good history in player development, so theres always hope he's got a higher cieling than what seems obvious today.

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    To me, it seems Primo is spending all his energy and attention to getting his rotations and spots right on both sides of the court and not worrying about the other things.
    And that's exactly what he should be doing. Everything else comes after he knows where he should be in our complex offense. That is an absolute #1 first step. Then you add to your game every year.

    Lonnie still doesn't have step #1 down.Thats why Lonnie will walk this summer. Couldn't get down step #1.

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    My concern is we are still loaded with guards.

    Murray/Jones
    Vassell/Richardson/Walker/Primo

    And we have three 1st rounders and only two true point guards. It might be one those cases that you let walker just go just because.

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    Development isn't linear. I don't have any concern for Josh's recent performance. That said, I would hope that fans who expect the Spurs to improve mainly through the draft have taken in Primo's development. There's nothing abnormal about how he's playing. When you build through the draft, you're going to have years of decent talent playing poorly and a number of guys showing decently just as they're hitting free agency. If the Spurs choose the path of tanking until they get a star, they're likely to be bad for a long, long time. It's very possible that the Spurs draft well in a few months and still don't get a day-one starter out of the bunch. The team can and should look to make at least one big move pretty soon. Being young isn't the same thing as having a far-off window or long timeline. Windows only exist when they're open. If they Spurs are going to have a window, it'll be because they made the moves to force it open for a few years. What's unlikely to happen is a window opens because guys like Vassell, Primo and future picks just organically improve while on rookie deals.
    I like this take. Having guys develop in to solid players just in time to pay them is fine as long as you get crafty with the assets you have developed similar to what we did with G Hill and D White.

    The problem is over the next few years we are going to be sitting on a 8-10 solid players many of which will come due for a pay raise yet we will still be play-in bound at best. I’d like to see some bold moves to consolidate talent when it presents itself over the next year or so.

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    My concern is we are still loaded with guards.

    Murray/Jones
    Vassell/Richardson/Walker/Primo

    And we have three 1st rounders and only two true point guards. It might be one those cases that you let walker just go just because.
    With Langford in the wings. Coach Pop has the perfect solution though…. Play guys out of position. I really hope this upcoming draft day and offseason we focus on proper roster construction. If you are going to draft a few more tweeners fine atleast move 3-4 of the above for a starter.

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    Package him in a trade.

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    Primo is going to be fine, it starts between the ears! Give him a little time and please exercise some patience. He’s a baby in this league…..

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    He's two years away from seeing his true potential. We'll know in two years what he will be, more or less.

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    He definitely hit that rookie wall. I think he'll have a bigger second year jump than Lonnie.
    That bar is so low it would take a step rather than a jump.

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    That bar is so low it would take a step rather than a jump.
    This is a popular take but it’s really inaccurate.

    He had less than 20 games played his first year and over 60 the next. Doubled his scoring in both his second and third season and figured out how to play defense.

    Primo is not only younger but already playing at a higher level than Lonnie’s first year.

    This group is so ridiculous at times. A few posts up someone wants to package him in a trade. The stupidity here is embarrassing.

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