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    Pretty sure you're referring to stats when Forbes was in SA.

    Does anyone have those advanced stats regarding Forbes' defense in Milwaukee?
    I watched a lot of the Bucks and I promise you, it actually looked worse and it stood out more because he was surrounded by such great defensive players.

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    1st glance thought an Onion type article and / or BatManu20 needs to be temp banned for the horrible joke.

    It's f-ing real.

    Suppose this means Grandpa is back for sure.

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    Jesus Christ what a terrible way to start off the morning seeing this . All the guards we have on this team and we sign back this bum, unreal. The absolute worst part about this is that he’s going to take minutes from someone he has no business playing over at this point. They just couldn’t ing resist, finally everyone gone and just the young guys left and they do this smfh.

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    Pretty sure you're referring to stats when Forbes was in SA.

    Does anyone have those advanced stats regarding Forbes' defense in Milwaukee?
    His DBPM is essentially the same as it was here.

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    Pretty sure you're referring to stats when Forbes was in SA.

    Does anyone have those advanced stats regarding Forbes' defense in Milwaukee?
    Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...layer-ratings/

    Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.

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    Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...layer-ratings/

    Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.

    Calling Forbes a “defender” is like calling Donald Trump an honest man.

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    Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...layer-ratings/

    Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.
    but he comes back a champion

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    if you want more depressing numbers about Bryn, here's how he was handled in the finals

    games 1, still in rotation, played his 12 minutes in a loss
    game 2, played 6 minutes in a loss
    game 3, with bucks down 2-0, only plays 4 minutes, misses both his shot attempts
    game 4, DNP bucks win
    game 5, DNP bucks win
    game 6, DNP bucks win and seal the le

    honestly feel like in a similar situation pop would give forbes more minutes as the series went along instead of white

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    Forbes sucks. Why does this board understand that but PATFO does not?

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    Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...layer-ratings/

    Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.
    Love seeing Lonnie and McDermott and even Keldon being in the top 30 worst defenders. Oh and Derozan was there as well.

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    Love seeing Lonnie and McDermott and even Keldon being in the top 30 worst defenders. Oh and Derozan was there as well.
    keldon is oddly enough westbrook-esque in that he plays with 100% energy all the time but often in misguided ways that are counterproductive

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    FARCE of FO goes to new low.

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    you haters


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    Woke up hoping there’d be more to this. But alas, here we are.

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    I don't really care about this signing if it's a one year deal for a minimum amount and the young players get the minutes and he is just a back up shooter. I don't care if the Spurs get Simmons and need to surround him with shooting, I still would not want to see Forbes on the court.

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    i'd rather have just brought patty back tbh

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    if you want more depressing numbers about Bryn, here's how he was handled in the finals

    games 1, still in rotation, played his 12 minutes in a loss
    game 2, played 6 minutes in a loss
    game 3, with bucks down 2-0, only plays 4 minutes, misses both his shot attempts
    game 4, DNP bucks win
    game 5, DNP bucks win
    game 6, DNP bucks win and seal the le

    honestly feel like in a similar situation pop would give forbes more minutes as the series went along instead of white
    Pop coaching that series for the bucks 100% gets swept

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    Love seeing Lonnie and McDermott and even Keldon being in the top 30 worst defenders. Oh and Derozan was there as well.
    But but but I was told Lonnie is a good defender because he managed to kind of disrupt James Harden for like one quarter.

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    Pop saw this stat and just couldn’t help himself tbh.



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    Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...layer-ratings/

    Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.
    Not to quibble but Forbes is ahead of Trae Young who is actually #250 (that guy should probably be cut by Atlanta).

    Lonnie Walker is a few spots ahead of Forbes at #243.

    Frighteningly, the worst forward listed is McDermott (SF/PF) at #246, second worst forward (SG/SF) is Walker at #243.

    They may need to play a lot of zone this year.

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    Forbes was the worst defender in the league in San Antonio. Went to Milwaukee and still the worst defender in the league.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...layer-ratings/

    Sort by defense and see Forbes is 250th out of 250. No hyperbole here. He's literally the worst defender in the league.
    god lonnie's advanced stats are putrid

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    Pretty sure you're referring to stats when Forbes was in SA.

    Does anyone have those advanced stats regarding Forbes' defense in Milwaukee?
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...layer-ratings/
    If you scroll through the various categories here-- box score DEF raptor/ on/off DEF raptor/overall DEF-- you'll see Forbes usually near the bottom. Unfortunately the other names you'll also consistently see are Lonnie Walker and Doug McDermott.

    Edit: Timvp beat me to it

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    Not to quibble but Forbes is ahead of Trae Young who is actually #250 (that guy should probably be cut by Atlanta).

    Lonnie Walker is a few spots ahead of Forbes at #243.

    Frighteningly, the worst forward listed is McDermott (SF/PF) at #246, second worst forward (SG/SF) is Walker at #243.

    They may need to play a lot of zone this year.
    I was talking about overall defensive RAPTOR where Forbes is 250th of 250. But, yeah, that other stat he's 249th of 250 so that works too

    Walker is one of the worst help defenders I've ever seen and not so hot on the ball either so his Forbes-like ranking makes sense.

    I've seen Spurs fans try to tell themselves that McDermott isn't a bad defender ...... but they will soon find out the truth, tbh.

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    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...layer-ratings/
    If you scroll through the various categories here-- box score DEF raptor/ on/off DEF raptor/overall DEF-- you'll see Forbes usually near the bottom. Unfortunately the other names you'll also consistently see are Lonnie Walker and Doug McDermott.
    lonnie is one of the absolute worst defenders in the nba and also one of the worst offensive players. overall 3rd worst player in the association

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    Lies, damn lies and statistics.

    Defensively, Rudy Gay is #31 and Kawhi Leonard trails at #62 -- I'm guessing most coaches would rather have Leonard on the court for defensive purposes.

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