So 14% vs 12.5% isn't a big drop off. We can root for enough wins to at least get to #4 slot. It'll be good for the young core to pile up 25-30 wins which should get them in the hunt for #4 at worst.
Based on just the first few possessions alone Wembayana has the feel of a cornerstone.
4 more years!
That's Pop regardless of whether the Spurs win or lose the lottery.
Spurs getting one of Scoot or Wemby would catapult us back into relevance within a couple seasons. If spurs luck out and land the #1 pick everyone is going to forget the last 5 years and will be glad we tanked in 23 instead of 19-22
Thanks. So finishing in the bottom 3-4 is the best chance. Finishing last seems like a waste of time, but also, finishing in the bottom 3 or 4 doesn't really give you any advantage. It really is a lottery.
Thanks. I will have a look at these when I have some time. I am really out of drafting at the top of the lottery as we haven't done it for so long.
The meltdown in here is gonna be 2013-like when the Spurs finish as a bottom-two team and wind up with the 5th or 6th pick
'Penis-looking fella hates us.' - ST, may 2023, probablyThe meltdown in here is gonna be 2013-like when the Spurs finish as a bottom-two team and wind up with the 5th or 6th pick
The desire to finish in last place (instead of 3rd or 4th) isn't for better odds of the overall #1 pick.... it's the 100% guarantee of getting a top 5 pick. The 4th worst record has a 44.6% chance of dropping to picks 6, 7, or 8.
80% of the talent in the draft is usually in the first 2-3 picks. Not a heap of difference most years between 5 and 8.
All the more reason to start with the worst record. Although there's still a huge drop-off between 5-8. After 8 is where it starts to level off.
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That's hugely contingent on the draft class, sometimes it's flat but other times there's a steep decline after the top 5, and it never hurts to avoid giving 3 teams the chance to snatch your target in your face. In this upcoming draft that could likely be the case. So while I'm never a fan of blatant, mishandle your team tanking, I sure as hope the FO avoids that scenario by removing the couple of vets that could most impact such outcome, but mainly Poeltl. That should give Pop the leeway to sincerely go all out and still be bad enough to lose in bunches, like Ainge made sure to happen in Utah.
This. I understand principles, corporate culture etc etc but If PATFO fumble another year by winning 5-10 meaningless games down the stretch at that point you have to question is this is just ego? I seriously think PATFO thinks they are better than other front offices. There just doesn’t seem to be any urgency to get back to compe iveness.
Is it possible to conduct at least a minimal fact check before posting nonsense?
2010
top-3: Wall, Turner, Favors
others: Cousins, Hayward, George
2011
top-3: Kyrie, Derrick Williams, Kanterothers: Kemba, Klay, Vucevic, Kawhi, Butler, Isaiah
2012
top-3: Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist, Beal
others: Lillard, Drimmond, Green, Middleton
2013
top-3: Bennett, Oladipo, Porter Jr.
others: Giannis, McCollum, Gobert
2014
top-3: Wiggins (MAPLE JORDAN generational talent), Parker, Embiid
others: Randle, Lavine, Jokic
2015
top-3: Towns, Russell, Okafor
others: Porzingis, Booker
2016
top-3: Simmons, Ingram, Brown
others: Sabonis, Siakam, Dejounte
2017
top-3: Fultz, Lonzo, Tatum
others: Mithc , Adebayo
I think everyone goes home happy because Spurs will def be among the worst 3/bottom of the league so best odds at a #1 pick lottery. But at the same time, and from the perspective of those enriched by Spurs turnstile hits, the bottom 3 have the exact same odds at #1. So that's possibly a difference of +1-5 wins, maybe more. If you are Spurs Sports and Entertainment, you want to strike the balance of best odds at #1 while still dialing up the max amount of wins allowable while still preserving the best odds at #1.
I mean losing maybe as much a 5 more games to still have the same 14% odds or whatever is stupid. Each win could amount to significant fan patronage whether it's parking, turnstiles, food vendor/merch sales, etc gamble bets etc. I look for SA to scheme a sweet spot between the optimal pick odds and enriching investors.
Obviously totally dependent on the other bottom dwellers and obvs Spurs should lose whatever is necessary to match other tanking teams and preserve the maximum 14% odds. But there may be some wiggle room to have some cake and eat it too.
Coach Collet is also know for developing young players...
Other than Kawhi and Giannis, none of those ‘others’ is anything special or a franchise guy who takes his team to a le. You might be OK with an All Star, but we had one of those and just traded him. I WANT A GODDAMNED FRANCHISE PLAYER FOR A LE TEAM.
At not including Davis, Embiid, Jokic in that.
Spare me the "Davis had James" (when the former was the best player in '20 playoffs and unlike S bag, didn't need 95 games of rest, the most complete team in the league around him or the best team in the league decimated by injury) and Embiid and Jokic "haven't done it" (as if they've had one legit chance).
That looks like a big "N" as in no.
14% chance? One in seven.
The Spurs will need some major luck.
Tbh the only franchise guy in those top 3 was Embiid.
Pretty ridiculous
Question for everyone ... In the last 10 years, when has the worst team in the league record wise, actually had the #1 pick ?
I'm pretty sure we'll have a bottom 5 record, but that won't guarantee us Mr. franchise Wembanyama unless we also "luck" into the 1st pick. Remember 4 teams will also have bad records but will also have the pretty much the same odds to get the first pick. Like us they'll need some luck in order to get Wemby or enven Scoot Henderson.
I'm very much a realist, and I have no doubt we can get a decent player with a bottom 5 record, but will it be the #1 pick or even the 2nd pick ? I'm not holding my breath, there are no guarantees in the NBA even with the worst record.
LMAO, now that the Spurs may or may not be in the mix to get him with the #1 pick, all of a sudden Adam Silver is urging teams not to tank for him. The league and ESPN know no bounds for their hatred of San Antonio, LOL.
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