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    Should there be retaliation for this attack?
    I'm not doctrinaire about that. Are we clearly sure who did it?

    Not knowing whodunnit "for sure" was a major factor in the US deciding not to retaliate in Lebanon in 1983.

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    At Least 250,000 Afghans Who Worked With U.S. Haven’t Been Evacuated, Estimates Say

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...estimates.html
    Are they counting janitors? That's a huge number. How is that even possible?

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    Are they counting janitors? That's a huge number. How is that even possible?
    why not count janitors?

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    I'm not doctrinaire about that. Are we clearly sure who did it?
    At the end of the day the person most responsible blew themself up in the process. But some think it would be great if we stay longer and expose ourselves to more of these fanatics.

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    about 12,500 people yesterday


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    I'm not doctrinaire about that. Are we clearly sure who did it?

    Not knowing whodunnit "for sure" was a major factor in the US deciding not to retaliate in Lebanon in 1983.
    Well, apparently ISIS owned it already.

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    Well, apparently ISIS owned it already.
    "Apparently"

    Do we know for sure they did it, or are they just braggarts?

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    complicating factor: even if ISIS did it, what right does the US have to operate militarily in another country to retaliate against non-state actors? what if Venezuela were to attack the US in retaliation for Silvercorp's comical 2019 coup attempt?

    would that be justified?

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    complicating factor: even if ISIS did it, what right does the US have to operate militarily in another country to retaliate against non-state actors? what if Venezuela were to attack the US in retaliation for Silvercorp's comical 2019 coup attempt?

    would that be justified?
    US foreign policy in the last 70 years has been "justified" through the lack of consequences, ie, what are you gonna do about it, cambodia?

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    US foreign policy in the last 70 years has been "justified" through the lack of consequences, ie, what are you gonna do about it, cambodia?
    might makes right, absolutely.

    but it's fun to watch people tie themselves up in knots trying to justify brute force.

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    400 dead in mass shootings in the US this year, but the big scandal is a bombing in a foreign country we've occupied for 20 years.

    Conservative outrage over dead Marines is virtue signalling par excellence.
    Dead marines ok now

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    Remember when 241 US Marines were killed in Beirut?

    Reagan responded by withdrawing US troops from Lebanon the next year. There was no retaliation for the attacks and no calls for the president to resign.
    And thats remembered forever as a big asswhiping by terrorists on US. Same thing yesterday. Will be remembered as a monumental asskicking of US while we were escaping nonetheless. Kicking a dog when its down

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    why not count janitors?
    Janitors are most likely cleaning Taliban poop right now. Life goes on

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    about 12,500 people yesterday

    Pretty amazing given the cir stances.

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    why not count janitors?
    Are there lives in danger for that? Really?

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    Dead marines ok now
    said no one except you

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    Are there lives in danger for that? Really?
    dunno, but wouldn't surprise me a bit. the US is not well liked in Afghanistan.

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    might makes right, absolutely.

    but it's fun to watch people tie themselves up in knots trying to justify brute force.
    “We will hunt you down and make you pay”

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    And thats remembered forever as a big asswhiping by terrorists on US. Same thing yesterday. Will be remembered as a monumental asskicking of US while we were escaping nonetheless. Kicking a dog when its down
    lol hyperbole

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    Ex-Pence Aide: Stephen Miller’s “Racist Hysteria” Made It Harder for Afghan Allies to Get Visas

    the Trump administration made it much harder for Afghans who worked with the U.S. to apply and receive what is known as a special immigrant visa, or SIV.

    Oliva Troye, a former top aide to Mike Pence who resigned in protest, has

    placed the blame on Trump’s xenophobic adviser Stephen Miller, saying he peddled “racist hysteria”

    in White House meetings about bringing Afghan allies to the U.S.

    “Stephen Miller would say, 'Well, these are terrorist cells in the making if you bring them here,'”

    “I know for a fact that the Trump administration was planning this withdrawal for several years,” says Troye.

    “Why were they not actively prioritizing this population so that we wouldn’t be in the situation we’re in today?”

    https://www.democracynow.org/2021/8/27/afghan_refugees_olivia_troye



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    dunno, but wouldn't surprise me a bit. the US is not well liked in Afghanistan.
    ...Ya think, you idiot, you. That (13) trusted and confided in these animals is criminal.

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    “We will hunt you down and make you pay”
    Very much what I expected him say. Sleepy Joe is like that.

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    Very much what I expected him say. Sleepy Joe is like that.
    - "Promises, promises."

    - Ernie "The Cat" Ladd

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    (TSA seemingly forgetting I'm the guy who likes to stress continuity between Dem and GOP administrations and gave Obama about warmongering for eight years on this board. I still do, from time to time)

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