It would be kind of shocking, because he doesn't get his contract if he retires. Lots of players club (like Green apparently). They don't have to do it in the city in which they work. Benefit of being a millionaire.
I mean we've seen the limitations of this current FO the past few years, whose to say they're even capable of demanding anything remotely close to a king's ransom for Simmons? The rest of the NBA has seen the Spurs as the butt-end of a joke in trade discussions. Wouldn't shock me if they moved him for the corpse of John Wall.
It would be kind of shocking, because he doesn't get his contract if he retires. Lots of players club (like Green apparently). They don't have to do it in the city in which they work. Benefit of being a millionaire.
I agree with Timvp - I’m wayyyy more hesitant about the picks part than players. I don’t really want Simmons but I’m fine with taking gambles. However SA needs to really protect themselves here on the downside and you do that by not dumping tons of picks.
I’m ok with 2: one of our and the bulls. That’s it.
Are you expecting a lot out of Vassell these next couple of years? Didn't really blow anybody away in his rookie season.
Like I said, dude might be a headcase. Plus money isn't as much of a factor for him since he comes from a fairly well-off family iirc.
I'm not saying Vassell is untouchable....but it was presented as Vassell or a 1st in that particular scenario...I'm saying I'd value Vassell more than a future 1st....in that particular scenario..
Pop + Forbes + Thad + Aminu + Luka FOR Simmons + a Philly cheesesteak. If they take Brian Wright, we can drop the cheesesteak demand. Seriously though, it would at the very least make the Spurs relevant in mainstream NBA media but it's hard to see guys like Poetl, KJ and Dj starting given their shooting limitations.
Murray + Thad + Jakob + CHI 1st + top 14 protected SA 1st
Yup...that's a solid offer for Simmons at this juncture... they can reroute Poeltl if they want to get more picks or a better player fit...
He is ELITE on defense and court vision/passing. He’s made 2 first team All D, 3 AS games, and one All NBA team. He also finished 2nd in DPOY this year.
Simmons > DePression even with his shooting shortcomings tbh. Problem is his dedication to basketball and willingness to play in SA.
They obviously wouldn't trade for him with the intention of it coming to that, I'm just saying if it does and he's repaired his value, is 27, with 2 years remaining, try as they might, even they'd replace at least most of the value given up.
Nah, it isn't. Poeltl and Young have to be rerouted for assets that'd make sense for them and the protection on the Spurs 1st would have to be dropped significantly.
I do think Simmons' actions could expedite the timeline (especially if they get the sense Lillard is locked in at least through the season), but at the same time he's signed for 4 years and Morey isn't PATFO. I don't think he'll care about the noise and his reputation.
Simmons and DeRozan are close when you factor everything in, but the things holding Ben back are theoretically workable. Him being younger and signed to a long-term deal are also things hugely in his favor.
It's all about les at the end of the day. Is trading for Simmons going to make us le contenders? If the answer is no then what's the point?
I remember you mentioned before, increasing his 3pt shot percentage to a something respectable, also his FT’s and he become an MVP candidate. FO is betting it’s all in his mind. Simmons have good mechanics.
I’m for getting Simmons. This opportunity does not come often to a small market. If I’m a betting man, I’ll bet on Spurs winning organization to turn this kid around.
There's nobody that could make us a le contender by themselves.... you have to add more later.
Pop's dream of finally playing Forbes 48 minutes per game might get realized.
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I have to disagree. Simmons plays team oriented game instead of heavy ISO, All-NBA Defensive player, and way younger to still work on his outside shots. Demar WILL NOT change anymore at his age. There’s a wide gap between the two.
Simmons alone bumps up to a 35 win team from the current 25 win team. Still sniffing that lottery pick though which would go to Philly for the next 5 years after Morey bends Brian Wrong over
Yes but the domino starts with one tile. The rest will follow, ring chasers. You get Simmons playing All NBA, with Pop and in the Spurs, soon the winning culture change, players start working harder, other players will like to come. It starts with one. I mean, Pop pulls this off, he can go ride in the sunset and forget about what Nephew could have been.
Lol, off you little .
imo a good deal is only if:
1) spurs wont include our two 1sts in next two extremely good drafts
2) wont include keldon and primo
3) be 10000% sure that simmons is ok with playing in san antonio and is aware that it will take time to build a team around him (probably 2-3 yrs)
Vassel has all the makings of an upper tier glue guy and I would value him about how I’d value say someone like Marcus Smart.
Murray or White. I have no issue with. Walker has offense and this team has none and it’s not like offense would be coming back in this trade.
Poodle. Fine.
Bulls 1st and a couple 2nds. Fine.
I’d be hesitant to add one our 1sts.
I don’t really want to give up for this diva.
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