Supreme Court allows Texas’ 6-week abortion ban to take effect

[Millennial_Messiah]

Libertarianism is a failed ideology, like communism and fascism.

It fails morally, and it fails economically. It is laughably easy to shred. You have yet to have this belief system really challenged. If I am wrong, and it really is a superior way to organize a society, then it should be easy to show.

Let's get started on that.

What is the tragedy of the commons?

The tragedy of the commons is a problem in economics that occurs when individuals neglect the well-being of society in the pursuit of personal gain


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Okay, but that is the essential fundamental of U.S. American foundation. If you don't like it... move to a more "everyone lives for each other" country, like in Europe or Japan or even Canada... quit trying to change America, quit trying to move America further to the left.

Libertarianism is the core fundamental ideology of Americanism.

It is most definitely NOT a "failed ideology" like communism, fascism, and *socialism (when implemented in non-small countries... i.e. it can be effective on a micro scale like Faroe Islands or even a Sweden or Norway, but NOT a very large population country especially such an ethnically and culturally diverse one such as the USA).

It definitely doesn't fail economically. Capitalism is a success as long as the fair tax laws are enforced, including on large corporations, whether traditional or innovative. The problem is the democratic party and their big biz cronies giving them big unfair tax breaks which further wreck the economy and keep the democratic party in power. They preach equality and left wing ideals but enforce them selectively. Especially amplified with big tech and Amazon paying net zero taxes. There needs to be an end to this.

[Trainwreck2100]

The tragedy of the commons is a problem in economics that occurs when individuals neglect the well-being of society in the pursuit of personal gain


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Okay, but that is the essential fundamental of U.S. American foundation. If you don't like it... move to a more "everyone lives for each other" country, like in Europe or Japan or even Canada... quit trying to change America, quit trying to move America further to the left.

Libertarianism is the core fundamental ideology of Americanism.

It is most definitely NOT a "failed ideology" like communism, fascism, and *socialism (when implemented in non-small countries... i.e. it can be effective on a micro scale like Faroe Islands or even a Sweden or Norway, but NOT a very large population country especially such an ethnically and culturally diverse one such as the USA).

It definitely doesn't fail economically. Capitalism is a success as long as the fair tax laws are enforced, including on large corporations, whether traditional or innovative. The problem is the democratic party and their big biz cronies giving them big unfair tax breaks which further wreck the economy and keep the democratic party in power. They preach equality and left wing ideals but enforce them selectively. Especially amplified with big tech and Amazon paying net zero taxes. There needs to be an end to this.

Ah yes the problem is the democratic party tax breaks when the repubs just gave away 2 trillion dollars

[Will Hunting]

The problem is the democratic party and their big biz cronies giving them big unfair tax breaks which further wreck the economy and keep the democratic party in power. They preach equality and left wing ideals but enforce them selectively. Especially amplified with big tech and Amazon paying net zero taxes. There needs to be an end to this.

you re s live in an alternative reality. The Trump tax scam was loaded with tax breaks for Amazon & Co.

What ing Democrat-backed tax breaks for corporations are you even talking about? Be specific.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Ah yes the problem is the democratic party tax breaks when the repubs just gave away 2 trillion dollars

If you're talking about last year's stimulus, then yes, I agree, that one was stupid too and DJT never should have signed off on it. Even Obama was smarter than the stupid idea of giving away checks of free money.

[Millennial_Messiah]

you re s live in an alternative reality. The Trump tax scam was loaded with tax breaks for Amazon & Co.

What ing Democrat-backed tax breaks for corporations are you even talking about? Be specific.

I blasted the 2017-18 tax bill harder than anyone else not left of center... I agree there was a lot of terrible bull . I believe SALT tax should be deductible WITHOUT itemizing.

All the loopholes that allow big tech, wall street corps, etc... to basically get away with tax fraud every year by deducting mountains of miscellaneous crap as "business expenses". There should be a limit, say 25-40%, of total gross revenue that should be tax deductible by any corporation in any given year.

[Will Hunting]

I blasted the 2017-18 tax bill harder than anyone else not left of center... I agree there was a lot of terrible bull . I believe SALT tax should be deductible WITHOUT itemizing.

All the loopholes that allow big tech, wall street corps, etc... to basically get away with tax fraud every year by deducting mountains of miscellaneous crap as "business expenses". There should be a limit, say 25-40%, of total gross revenue that should be tax deductible by any corporation in any given year.

Bull you blasted it. Go find some quotes to prove it.

So which of those loopholes were Democrats more responsible for than Republicans? Are you seriously pretending the effort over the last 40 years to abate corporate tax liability hasn't been spearheaded by Reagan Republicans?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Bull you blasted it. Go find some quotes to prove it.

So which of those loopholes were Democrats more responsible for than Republicans? Are you seriously pretending the effort over the last 40 years to abate corporate tax liability hasn't been spearheaded by Reagan Republicans?

Reagan? Definitely not a perfect president, but, the guy before him was responsible for the worst stagflation in American history and a lost key foreign ally in south central Asia.. .....Hmmmmmm, sound familiar?

[Will Hunting]

Reagan? Definitely not a perfect president, but, the guy before him was responsible for the worst stagflation in American history and a lost key foreign ally in south central Asia.. .....Hmmmmmm, sound familiar?

defending Reagan by deflecting.

[DMC]

[Millennial_Messiah]

defending Reagan by deflecting.

Reagan deregulated, lowered taxes, continued Carter's budget deficit trend, got rid of shortages (supplies, oil, etc), renegotiated trade deals and treaties, lowered gas prices dramatically, did not get Iran back (but that was a lost cause... it was Carter or bust imo), but did get Libya off our backs, did negotiate with Gorbyachev to weaken the USSR and successfully convinced the USSR to ultimately disband... Reagan armed the mujahideen/pre Taliban as a proxy to Russia, which was a mistake.

So yeah, Reagan was a mixed bag. While Carter was a complete 4 year net negative. Nixon was a strong positive but he got got for Bill Belicheat tactics, so it is what it is.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Obama over Bill Clinton? I'm surprised.

Obama was another mixed bag. his policy improved in his second term for sure, though - once he realized all his hopey changey bull was horse manure. Still, him for tripling commercial healthcare premiums and roughly doubling out of pocket expenses. ACA is an enduring stain that even a GOP trifecta couldn't fix.

[ElNono]

Reagan deregulated, lowered taxes, continued Carter's budget deficit trend, got rid of shortages (supplies, oil, etc), renegotiated trade deals and treaties, lowered gas prices dramatically, did not get Iran back (but that was a lost cause... it was Carter or bust imo), but did get Libya off our backs, did negotiate with Gorbyachev to weaken the USSR and successfully convinced the USSR to ultimately disband... Reagan armed the mujahideen/pre Taliban as a proxy to Russia, which was a mistake.

So yeah, Reagan was a mixed bag. While Carter was a complete 4 year net negative. Nixon was a strong positive but he got got for Bill Belicheat tactics, so it is what it is.

Reagan raised taxes significantly during his tenure. Everybody remembers the 1981 tax cuts, but he increased taxes almost every year afterwards. And that's on top of record deficit spending. Carter is nowhere near close to Reagan when it comes to using the government credit card.

[DMC]

Obama over Bill Clinton? I'm surprised.

Obama was another mixed bag. his policy improved in his second term for sure, though - once he realized all his hopey changey bull was horse manure. Still, him for tripling commercial healthcare premiums and roughly doubling out of pocket expenses. ACA is an enduring stain that even a GOP trifecta couldn't fix.

He won the Nobel peace prize his 1st day in office. Hard to beat that. If Bill won that, he would have shoved it up Monica's gooch.

[ElNono]

Obama was one of the most popular presidents ever... Not to mention he inherited an absolute cluster and turned things around.

That doesn't mean I personally like Obama (and there's plenty to criticize him for), but his popularity and appeal with the vast majority of the electorate is undeniable.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Reagan raised taxes significantly during his tenure. Everybody remembers the 1981 tax cuts, but he increased taxes almost every year afterwards. And that's on top of record deficit spending. Carter is nowhere near close to Reagan when it comes to using the government credit card.

Maybe true, but Carter started the debt that is now currently ~30T, before him it was virtually zero. And Reagan shored up the late 70s supply shortages, which 2021 has come to rival.

He won the Nobel peace prize his 1st day in office. Hard to beat that. If Bill won that, he would have shoved it up Monica's gooch.

Haha funnay, but everyone knows the Nobel Peace Prize is bull , if ya wanna use that then forget the fact Trump won it last year with the Israel/UAE treaty, but don't forget that of all people... Mahmoud Ahmedinejad () won the Nobel Peace Prize just months after beating hundreds of thousands of young Iranians to a bloody pulp with batons for voting against him in a rigged election in the summer of '09.

Obama didn't do about that, too. 2009 was our only other chance since 1979 to take back Iran as an ally instead of a forsworn enemy, and Obama fell asleep at the switch. Probably busy driving one into a sand bunker or hazard, tbh.

[ElNono]

Maybe true, but Carter started the debt that is now currently ~30T, before him it was virtually zero. And Reagan shored up the late 70s supply shortages, which 2021 has come to rival.

As long as the debt is in US dollars and internal, the amount is not really important, as it only affects inflation and inflation only matter vis a vis inflation in other currencies.

For all that money we still had an average inflation rate of ~2.3% which is exactly what it's been historically.

And Reagan didn't complain one bit about the debt. Neither did Reagan fans. He actually used it as a tool to pay for his taxcuts, which really means he shifted the burden to all Americans, because he didn't cut any spending.

Also, completely different situations about the 70s and now. There was no major worldwide catastrophe in the 70s. The supply issues right now (which drive temporary inflation) are not limited to the US, unlike in the 70s.

[boutons_deux]

"There was no major worldwide catastrophe in the 70s."

barrel of oil went from $3 to $33

[ElNono]

barrel of oil went from $3 to $33

There was no major worldwide catastrophe in the 70s.

[Winehole23]

Lucked out, no thanks to skittish Texas doctors

[Winehole23]

The Supreme Court hearing on whether there can be injunctive relief against SB 8 and US v Texas is today:

[Winehole23]

[boutons_deux]

It's a TRAP

MSNBC legal experts surprised at Kavanaugh and Barrett 'skepticism' over Texas abortion law



"Well, the thing that seems significant to me, if not extraordinary, is the open skepticism, if not downright hostility we've seen by Justices [Brett] Kavanaugh and [Amy Coney] Barrett,"

"And with those two votes, we could see a successful challenge to SB-8."

if a state can do this with abortion rights, can't a state do the same with gun rights and other things?"

"The answer to that was about how we have to trust states to be faithful to the Cons ution.

Well, if Texas isn't faithful to the Cons ution here,

I don't see how we can expect that elsewhere.

That was a powerful moment in the argument."

https://www.rawstory.com/msnbc-legal-experts-surprised-at-kavanaugh-and-coney-barrett-skepticism-over-texas-abortion-law

The Repugs/Capitalists/Christian don't GAF about the Cons ution. Their priorities ignore the Cons ution

[boutons_deux]

Justice Kagan burns down Texas abortion law:

'Isn't the point of a right that you don't have to ask Congress?'

Kavanaugh suggested that new laws could make gun shops liable for millions of dollars if they sell assault-style rifles.

Texas Solicitor General Judd Stone agreed that

"all cons utional rights" could be curtailed in the same fashion as abortion rights

if Congress allows it. whose side is he on?

Kagan asked

"Isn't the point of a right that

it doesn't really matter what Congress thinks or what the majority of the American people think as to that right?"

https://www.rawstory.com/elena-kagan-texas-abortion-law

[Thread]

>>>>>>>>>It's a TRAP<<<<<<<<<

MSNBC legal experts surprised at Kavanaugh and Barrett 'skepticism' over Texas abortion law



"Well, the thing that seems significant to me, if not extraordinary, is the open skepticism, if not downright hostility we've seen by Justices [Brett] Kavanaugh and [Amy Coney] Barrett,"

"And with those two votes, we could see a successful challenge to SB-8."

if a state can do this with abortion rights, can't a state do the same with gun rights and other things?"

"The answer to that was about how we have to trust states to be faithful to the Cons ution.

Well, if Texas isn't faithful to the Cons ution here,

I don't see how we can expect that elsewhere.

That was a powerful moment in the argument."

https://www.rawstory.com/msnbc-legal-experts-surprised-at-kavanaugh-and-coney-barrett-skepticism-over-texas-abortion-law

The Repugs/Capitalists/Christian don't GAF about the Cons ution. Their priorities ignore the Cons ution

>>>>>>>>>bouts, abashedly gettin' his hopes up.<<<<<<<<<

bouts

[boutons_deux]

Six Supreme Court justices appear to be leaning towards dismantling the Texas abortion law

https://www.rawstory.com/texas-anti-...-supreme-court