View Poll Results: ready to trade derrick?

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  1. #126
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    The Athletic's John Hollinger has recently reported that the Los Angeles Lakers are "surely" making calls on "guards who can play off the ball". Hollinger listed Norman Powell, Derrick White, and Marcus Smart as potential options.
    https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-trade-...d-marcus-smart

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    make another deal with the pacers tbh.

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    solid contract... deadline is around 45 days away. should be traded before he gets hurt again the second half of this season / next season.
    Between this message and the thread about Murray, looks like you want to get rid of the whole roaster.

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    Between this message and the thread about Murray, looks like you want to get rid of the whole roaster.
    i'm ready to move white.

    the thread about murray is about when he wants to be traded.

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    i'm ready to move white.

    the thread about murray is about when he wants to be traded.
    Meaning you believe he wants to leave and you’re ok with that. But there is no reason he would want to leave.

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    Meaning you believe he wants to leave and you’re ok with that. But there is no reason he would want to leave.
    the murray thread has 0 to do with if i'm okay about it or not.

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    the murray thread has 0 to do with if i'm okay about it or not.
    It’s all about jinx then.

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    You guys keep taking gambits weak bait imo

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    You guys keep taking gambits weak bait imo


    i believe two things:

    > white should be traded

    > murray will ask for a trade

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    my takes are as clear as can be and spurstalk never fails to muddy them up.

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    me, clear as day: "the thread about murray is about when he wants to be traded."

    spurstalk: "Meaning you believe he wants to leave and you’re ok with that."

    me:

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    I’m an idiot, of course.

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    i believe two things:

    > white should be traded

    > murray will ask for a trade
    I noticed that you started both those thread, IMO you’re the one who needs to be traded from ST.

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    Lakers have virtually nothing to offer and would struggle to make the math work. I don’t value White much but unless they are throwing in a FRP which would still be way out White isn’t even a realistic target for the Lakers.

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    Keldon is pretty good at flexing
    Not much else
    Oh
    He throws passes away all the time

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    Keldon is pretty good at flexing
    Not much else
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    He throws passes away all the time
    Wrong thread.

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    I missed the trade KJ thread
    Sorry
    Not really

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    I noticed that you started both those thread, IMO you’re the one who needs to be traded from ST.
    oh, you noticed i started both threads ??

    did you know this is a forum?

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    oh, you noticed i started both threads ??

    did you know this is a forum?
    Don’t be stupid, I was pointing out the fact that both your threads talk about trading our players.

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    I have no talent at all for that kind of thing.
    True, you don’t.

    Derrick should be traded only for a player who could reasonably be seen as part of a winning Spurs team in two years. If you can’t get that, a trade would be pointless.

    Eye on the prize: a winning team. A possible trade for Derrick is not just about him.

    The same is true for any player on the team.

    Who do you have in mind, better than Derrick, for the team?

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    Of course, I remain an idiot

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    I don’t know of anybody who’d be better for the Spurs than Derrick.

    Then what’s the point of talking about trading him?

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    Then what’s the point of talking about trading him?
    Presumably, and of course, you trade players because the goal of a trade is, of course, reasonably and presumably to keep your eye on the prize of winning more games of course. If the player you trade for can score more points or detract point scoring ability by the other team while keeping his eye on the prize of winning, presumably and of course the trade should be made - JeffDuncan


    Back to intelligent conversation now. White is our highest paid player at the only position we have some depth. It would be wise to explore the trade market for attributes we are desperately in need of; important things like scoring, shot creation, floor spacing, perimeter defence etc. In an effort to WIN, of course.

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    I’m good at lying about what others have posted.

    No, you’re not. Be more creative, and more insightful. Or just funnier.

    Back to intelligent conversation now. White is our highest paid player …

    Intelligent conversation is nice where it can be found, but Murray is the Spurs’ highest paid player. White is 2nd.

    The Spurs’ player payroll befits a 14-22 team. The top five:

    Murray, $15.4M
    White, $15.2M
    Young (not playing), $14.2M
    McDermott, $13.8M
    Aminu (dead cap), $10.2M

    Not a pretty picture. Two of the top five are scoring no points, getting no rebounds, or anything. Not that this is all new to you, but some might be surprised.

    ... It would be wise to explore the trade market for attributes we are desperately in need of; important things like scoring, shot creation, floor spacing, perimeter defence etc. In an effort to WIN, of course.

    Sure, and that goes for any of the players. The team stands at 14-22 after the previous two seasons of 32-39 and 33-39. It’s a loser. Every player on the Spurs should be available for the right deal. Every one.

    I see guys post things like, they’re ready to see all the players traded except so-and-so. But why keep so-and-so? They think they might have a chance to marry him?

    Still, the goal is to win, as you say, and as I said earlier. Trading White just to be rid of him would be pointless.

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    I wonder if Sac would consider Buddy Hield and Marvin Bagley for White, Thad and Walker.

    Hield has been in decline, at least scoring wise the last few seasons but he is still a top 3 pt shooter and shoots off the dribble, catch and shoot, off screens etc at a high volume and efficient rate - ~39% on 9-10 attempts a game. He’d be a pretty good fit with DJ in the back court.

    I’m not big on Bagley but he is still young and may just need a change of scenery. Gives us a true PF but he would be an tough fit with Jak, would be better suited playing alongside Collins. He is an RFA this summer so this would give you the chance to first try him out for half a season and allows you to match any offer if he is worth retaining. I doubt Sac is looking to retain him this summer regardless.

    This trade would basically be White for Hield and an option on Bagley.

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