Its just botched diplomacy tbqh
Im sure they could have spoken softly to France for weeks instead of rushing
Another Biden internationql failure smh
Losing a $33B deal is a huge deal for anybody. France is right to be pissed. That's a loss of good jobs for years.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 09-17-2021 at 04:50 PM.
Its just botched diplomacy tbqh
Im sure they could have spoken softly to France for weeks instead of rushing
Another Biden internationql failure smh
oh noes, we pissed off the mighty France
Suddenly France is to be taken seriously.
NATO and the EU we don't need them
muh Russia lefties agreeing with Trump now
In Biden's defense, it was Obama/Biden that got NATO allies to pledge to spend 2%. Trump just made that pledge really famous.
It would have been just as bad. It would have become public and turned into a month long spectacle. I don't see how it would have turned out better in any material sense.
There is no possible way to transition to the new new world order without plenty of bumps along the way. It will be a rocky decade ahead for the world but America should be fine.
My only fear is that bumbling Biden reacts to media headlines/approval ratings and get us bogged down in something really ty. I like to hope he won't but then again he just droned an aide worker and his family because Tucker Carlson was calling him weak.
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I got dp'ed
Last edited by SnakeBoy; 09-17-2021 at 09:44 PM.
leading us back to the 19th century
Australia asked for non nuclear originally. France could also provide them with nuclear if they wanted, it is more expensive. After getting screwed over the sale of warships to Russia by the US and now this, I hope that Europe understands that the US cannot be trusted.
Aussie wanted nuke subs. France had a project for that but it was getting delayed and delayed. And I think Aussie settled for the other.
Regardless. This deal with US will cost Australia a whole lot more $ and Australia wont be seeing any of these subs for at least 10 years.
The only reason Aussie did this is because USA bullied them. They said either u are w us. Or u are against us.
Poor aussie cucks are now officially US for at least a couple decades. USA will fight china till the last dead Australian
Australia wanted the possibility to have nuclear submarines but after Fukushima it was not popular. The French submarines could have been upgraded from diesel to nuclear easily and that's what Australia liked at the time
"Popular"?
Do u really think Aussie gov give a about what its ppl think?
it did since it went with the option of buying diesel subs upgradeable to nuclear later. Now, it seems that they don’t care anymore. Not a big deal, in the end Australians will get less jobs as I doubt that Americans will build nuclear subs there, not that I care.
That sounds like TMI
eh... that would be the 20th century.
We will have to see the details of the agreement but I think Australia probably is still going to require the submarines to be built in Australia but some of technical and design expertise will have to come from the US/UK.
france has a presidential election in the spring.
macron france great again by standing up to those oafish americans
Sad thing is everyone slaps.Macron around like a pussy
Even that Dungeon Dragons playing incel who actually slapped him to oblivion
I don't think that the US will allow manufacturing of nuclear reactors in Australia and it is not something you put after.
There is already backlash in Australia and New Zealand
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/18/a...cmd/index.html
besides the vaccine passport, he has been a pretty bad president. No reform on retirement, unemployment benefits, civil servant status, immigration...Another mandate lost.
Aussie cucks.
Wont see a new sub until at least 2040s most likely will not be able to afford them by then anyway
All they did is submit to US and wi ooen a US nuclear Sub base down under
Aussi3 cucks
It is not clear at all that Australia will find the money to actually pay for nuclear submarines. These are 50-100% more expensive that conventional ones. Australia also wants to make sure that at least 60% of the price flows back to Australian manufacturing. But there are no companies in Australia who have experience with work on nuclear technology. It is also unlikely that the U.S. or UK would let Australia gain such capacity.
There is also little chance that any of the envisioned new boats will be ready before 2040. By then Taiwan will likely be under Beijing's control and the naval primacy of China in the South China Sea will only have grown. The so far declared time frame and purpose of those boats is thereby questionable.
Perth will thereby be build up into a base that is compatible with the likely permanent stationing of U.S. nuclear submarines. These carry nuclear weapons.
The 'leased' boats, or at least their propulsion parts, would of course be still manned by U.S. or British sailors. The Australians already have problems retaining crews for their existing submarines. The few that will be available for the 'leased' boats will not be enough to run them. The Australians would pay largely for the privilege of being guests on board of doubtlessly U.S. commanded submarines.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/0...deal.html#more
Australians getting screwed, I'm loving it
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