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    bruh

    if you have moral qualms about animal testing in general, that's one thing. but you know the report that vent viral about them funding a particular experiment where their faces were basically trapped os they could get mauled by flies... was bull right?
    The article in The Hill was bull ? That's where I read it.

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    The article in The Hill was bull ? That's where I read it.
    https://journals.plos.org/plosntds/a...2-bc6eee0f2e21

    publisher's note issued a correction that they didnt receive funding from USNIH

    there were other experiments done under NIH that led to beagles being euthanized, but not the story of them having their faces in cages, etc

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    https://journals.plos.org/plosntds/a...2-bc6eee0f2e21

    publisher's note issued a correction that they didnt receive funding from USNIH

    there were other experiments done under NIH that led to beagles being euthanized, but not the story of them having their faces in cages, etc
    But we provided funding to the lab that conducted the experiment, right? Maybe that's not direct funding of the experiment itself but IMO we wouldn't be funding that lab at all. I have a thing against animal testing.

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    But we provided funding to the lab that conducted the experiment, right? Maybe that's not direct funding of the experiment itself but IMO we wouldn't be funding that lab at all. I have a thing against animal testing.
    i dont know about that either

    and i get that you have a thing against animal testing, generally. but that alone is not going to be grounds to terminate everyone in the NIH

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    https://journals.plos.org/plosntds/a...2-bc6eee0f2e21

    publisher's note issued a correction that they didnt receive funding from USNIH

    there were other experiments done under NIH that led to beagles being euthanized, but not the story of them having their faces in cages, etc
    That note sounds more like the NIH called up and said we are already in enough with the GOF research in Wuhan this is the last thing we need so issue a correction or no more funding for anything moving forward.

    The funding for the study was very specific, I don't see how that was a mistake initially.

    Funding: EZ and AS received funding from the US National Ins utes of Health -grant number R21AI130485, and from the Wellcome Trust-grant number 209336/Z/17/7. The funders had no role in study design, data collection or analysis, decision to publish, or preparation of the manuscript.

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    That note sounds more like the NIH called up and said we are already in enough with the GOF research in Wuhan this is the last thing we need so issue a correction or no more funding for anything moving forward.

    The funding for the study was very specific, I don't see how that was a mistake initially.

    Funding: EZ and AS received funding from the US National Ins utes of Health -grant number R21AI130485, and from the Wellcome Trust-grant number 209336/Z/17/7. The funders had no role in study design, data collection or analysis, decision to publish, or preparation of the manuscript.
    tinfoil supply good?

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    tinfoil supply good?
    That funding quote was pulled from your link

    And links from NIH Reporter both show administering ins ute was NIAID for that study.

    https://reporter.nih.gov/search/TF0v...520527#details

    https://reporter.nih.gov/search/QZvi...etails/9753154

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    That funding quote was pulled from your link

    And links from NIH Reporter both show administering ins ute was NIAID for that study.

    https://reporter.nih.gov/search/TF0v...520527#details

    https://reporter.nih.gov/search/QZvi...etails/9753154
    yes, which was then corrected

    two other separate studies done on the same subject, which the NIAID has confirmed it funded. but not the ones with the pictures that went viral

    https://www.politifact.com/article/2...ci-and-beagle/
    https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/an...ut-beaglegate/

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    yes, which was then corrected

    two other separate studies done on the same subject, which the NIAID has confirmed it funded. but not the ones with the pictures that went viral

    https://www.politifact.com/article/2...ci-and-beagle/
    https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/an...ut-beaglegate/
    I understand it was corrected by the publisher. But that same grant # pulls up funding from NIAID on NIH reporter.

    https://reporter.nih.gov/search/TF0v...520527#details

    1R21AI130485-01A1

    I don't know who inputs information on that site and whether it's NIH or the researchers. I'm not trying to drag Fauci for the experiments either I just think it reeks of them trying to save some face in light of other issues they are dealing with right now.

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    Lmao slow the down. You guys did like 2% better on Hispanics (while losing an election fairly badly) and you still get raped among every single minority group
    much better than 2%. And not just with Cubans. Look at the Mexican counties in deep south Texas that Trump outright flipped or made compe ive that had been historically >~80% Democrat.

    It will be the Hispanics that will ultimately be responsible for keeping Texas red long term. El Orgullo!!!

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    just like last year in Michigan, PA and Georgia.

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    the system works

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    Fox News still has Murphy up 0.7%... hater ?

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    yes, which was then corrected

    two other separate studies done on the same subject, which the NIAID has confirmed it funded. but not the ones with the pictures that went viral

    https://www.politifact.com/article/2...ci-and-beagle/
    https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/an...ut-beaglegate/
    Never are. This rarely pans out to be what the propaganda mills peddle it to be.

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    much better than 2%. And not just with Cubans. Look at the Mexican counties in deep south Texas that Trump outright flipped or made compe ive that had been historically >~80% Democrat.

    It will be the Hispanics that will ultimately be responsible for keeping Texas red long term. El Orgullo!!!
    You mean like Kenedy or LaSalle? Both flipped from voting for Clinton in 16 to Trump in 20.

    Participation was up, to be sure, by a good 4%.

    Is that the kind of county you mean?

    Unfortunately for your theory here... those two counties only had about 2400 votes between them.

    Land doesn't vote.

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    AP called NJ race for Murphy.

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    Biden Blames Trump Voters for Big Loss in Virginia

    Wow

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    Biden Blames Trump Voters for Big Loss in Virginia

    Wow
    lol, DJT lost by 10% in VA in 2020.

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    Did he not say he was the unify ?

    Nothing to do with the idiot saying parents no day in teaching their kids


    Trump lost Virginia by 10 percent they say

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    Did he not say he was the unify ?

    Nothing to do with the idiot saying parents no day in teaching their kids


    Trump lost Virginia by 10 percent they say
    Google Translate doesn't have a jibberish to English option...

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    Did he not say he was the unify ?

    Nothing to do with the idiot saying parents no day in teaching their kids


    Trump lost Virginia by 10 percent they say
    Dang, he got waxed. Can't wait to get him back on the ballot

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