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    That's a weird spin on self defense.
    it's not, I was addressing DMC's implied comparison, which he didn't deny.

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    55 officers hospitalized and and 150 injured for social media cred?

    you're a joke, DMC
    Well, she's dead, so democracy saved.

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    Well, she's dead, so democracy saved.
    Ashli Babbitt was an Air Force Senior Security officer in Iraq. Trained security officers in a war zone. She knew what might happen.

    She was maybe even counting on it.

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    lol dumb Darrin

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    Don't tell Trainwreck about this because Rosenbaum is his idol it seems.
    once again I'm not talking about Rosenbaum

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    DarrinS: Are you familiar btw with the concurrent scheme to overturn the election procedurally the same day? the riot was ginned up to put pressure on squishy Republicans and delay certification.

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    There's a reason few Americans were aware what happens on Jan 6th before this year. That reason is that the ministerial duty to certify electoral college tallies -- after the 1876 show -- has been a norm for 145 years.

    Trump broke that norm. He tried to overturn an election to continue in office after he lost.

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    DarrinS: Are you familiar btw with the concurrent scheme to overturn the election procedurally the same day? the riot was ginned up to put pressure on squishy Republicans and delay certification.
    If there was such a scheme, I hope it wasn't led by someone in a Viking helmet.

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    If there was such a scheme, I hope it wasn't led by someone in a Viking helmet.
    it was led by the White House, you've not been paying careful attention.

    The calls to Rusty Bowers to appoint alternate electors, the call to Brad Raffensperger to find more votes, the attempt to suborn DOJ officials to declare fraud, the pleas to DOD to confiscate voting machines, 59 completely frivolous election challenges, the Capitol riot, the post-inauguration demands for forensic audits...

    Have you been asleep this whole time?

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    you tagging everyone living rent free in your head? i don't even know what this thread is about and if my life depended on knowing you lie politically then i'd be dead.

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    The Eastman memo, the pressure on county officials not to certify, if Obama had done even one of these things you'd all be screaming from the rooftops

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    Rosenbaum spent roughly 15 years in prison in his early adulthood, according to Arizona prison records. Court do ents showed that Rosenbaum was accused of sexually abusing five pre-teen boys in 2002, was indicted on 11 counts of child molestation, and eventually pleaded guilty to two amended counts of sexual conduct with a minor.

    Waiting for a mural of him to be painted alongside pedobear.
    Thanks brah

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    There's a reason few Americans were aware what happens on Jan 6th before this year. That reason is that the ministerial duty to certify electoral college tallies -- after the 1876 show -- has been a norm for 145 years.

    Trump broke that norm. He tried to overturn an election to continue in office after he lost.
    Apart from a straight up military coup, what could be more straightforward attempt to wreck democracy?

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    Officer shoots a black man charging at him, he's a murderer. Officer shoots a woman breaking a window, he's a hero.

    Difference? Political affiliation and color of skin, but let's not fool ourselves. If Babbitt was black she'd still have been shot if she was conservative. Some of you white guilt mother ers wouldn't know whether to or go blind, you'd run in circles for weeks.
    isnt having 85k+ posts on a basketball posting forum running in circles lifewise a bit?

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    Officer shoots a black man charging at him, he's a murderer. Officer shoots a woman breaking a window, he's a hero.

    Difference? Political affiliation and color of skin, but let's not fool ourselves. If Babbitt was black she'd still have been shot if she was conservative. Some of you white guilt mother ers wouldn't know whether to or go blind, you'd run in circles for weeks.
    hmm, not really. This is a gross oversimplification.

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    And Kyle shot him dead without knowing his past.

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    isnt having 85k+ posts on a basketball posting forum running in circles lifewise a bit?
    So you're saying El Nono has no life?
    hmm, not really. This is a gross oversimplification.
    Not at all. In both instances someone is shot, both people are unarmed, both were shot by officers. The difference is the woman was only attacking a building while the man was attacking an officer. So Kyle defending his own life is less justified than an officer using deadly force to protect a window.

    And yes, a simple browse on this forum will quickly show how the opinions are divided by political stance, and justice for many here is outcome based, not due process based. The founders knew this (imagine how biased people were that long ago) and built the legal system to account for it.

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    Not particularly. I didn't think Kyle would ever be convicted for murder nor should he have been under white male fear laws.

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    the woman was only attacking a building
    are you trying to be stupid?

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    Apart from a straight up military coup, what could be more straightforward attempt to wreck democracy?
    You come off as such a whiney bro. WhineHo

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    isnt having 85k+ posts on a basketball posting forum running in circles lifewise a bit?
    How many posts do you have collectively between all your alts?

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    And Kyle shot him dead without knowing his past.
    Boohoo you ing ass!

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    So you're saying El Nono has no life?
    Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.

    Not at all. In both instances someone is shot, both people are unarmed, both were shot by officers. The difference is the woman was only attacking a building while the man was attacking an officer. So Kyle defending his own life is less justified than an officer using deadly force to protect a window.
    No, actually that's not the only difference. Context matters, and so does the justification of using deadly force. This is actually crucial in criminal cases.

    Under your premise there's no difference between Amber Guyger and Rusten Sheskey, but we all know there is.

    You do get a 6/10 score for the fishing expedition on both "the woman was only attacking a building" and "officer using deadly force to protect a window" though.

    And yes, a simple browse on this forum will quickly show how the opinions are divided by political stance, and justice for many here is outcome based, not due process based. The founders knew this (imagine how biased people were that long ago) and built the legal system to account for it.
    Again, I think that's a gross oversimplification. We do have a bunch of ignorable posters like boutons or Qhris spamming political gotchas about particular cases, I don't think they're the norm (thankfully) here.

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    If a mob surrounded DMCs group home and one of the mob broke a window and was trying to force herself inside, DMC would bend over and welcome the entry.

    Got it.

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    ahahaha those 2 and it should've been 3 or 4 choking on dirt tbh. Rot in as well as all you apologists too!

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