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    Time for peace negotiations

    Ukranians are going "missing" all over. Families are fed up

    Peace

    ^^^begging for mercy

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    How did Russia operate in Sevostopol before 2014 (which wasn't long ago)? They rented it from Ukraine.

    No reason they can't go back to that arrangement. Unless Russia keeps killing civilians, then that might be off the table too.

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    Putin Wastes Massive Sums To Strike Ukraine Civilians While His Army Flops

    Four hundred to seven hundred million dollars:

    That is how much Russia’s missile attack on Ukraine cost on a single day,

    October 10. The Ukraine defense ministry announced that Russia launched 84 missiles on that day largely against civilian targets

    the Russian attack included its KH-101 air-launched cruise missile, which costs $13 million;

    the 3M54 Kalibr cruise missile, $6.5 million;

    the Iskander ground-to-ground missile, $3 million,

    the P-800 Oniks air-launched missile, $1.25 million;

    the KH-22 air-launched missile, $1 million;

    and the OTR-21 Tochka ground transporter-launched missile, $300,000.

    Russia also reportedly fired 24 Iranian-made Shahed-136 kamikaze drones, which cost only $20,000 apiece and carry a 100-pound warhead.

    According to Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky, Russia has ordered 2,400 Shahed-136 drones from Iran.

    Russia had launched eight cruise missiles at Ukrainian cities.

    Ukraine’s government reported that seven of the Russian missiles were shot down,

    which probably explains why its attack eight days later involved 84 missiles,

    some of which were intended to overwhelm Ukraine’s air defenses so more missiles could reach their targets.

    Ukraine shot down 41 of the cruise missiles fired by Russia on October 10.

    Putin is wasting hundreds of millions of his country’s rapidly depleting defense budget trying to intimidate the Ukrainian government and its citizens into submission.

    All he has ended up doing is redoubling their resolve.

    https://www.nationalmemo.com/russian-drone-strokes

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    This is what winnning sounds like




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    This is what winnning sounds like



    Russia is depending on Iran to supply it with arms.

    that's what winning sounds like.

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    Unfortunately, there is method to their madness. Russia has already destroyed 30% of Ukraine's electrical grid with winter approaching and destroying more every day.

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    USA ing that Iran is violating the Nuclear Deal they exited during Trump

    This is what winnning looks like


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    Most Ukrainians want to keep fighting until Russia is driven out, poll finds

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/10/18/ukraine-victory-poll-gallup

    Can Pootin kill enough civilians, destroy enough infrastructure to cause Ukraine to give up?

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    USA ing that Iran is violating the Nuclear Deal they exited during Trump

    This is what winnning looks like

    EU has gone to great length to protect Iran and it's economy from USA sanctions, it looks like this is over. If Iran's regime think it has internal problems now, wait till they see what it will looks like with their economy in the toilet.

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    EU has gone to great length to protect Iran and it's economy from USA sanctions, it looks like this is over. If Iran's regime think it has internal problems now, wait till they see what it will looks like with their economy in the toilet.
    hater's all-in on the Islamic extremist Iran now.

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    The Sources of Russian Misconduct
    A Diplomat Defects From the Kremlin

    ...
    As someone born in the Soviet Union, I found the attack almost unimaginable, even though I had heard Western news reports that an invasion might be imminent. Ukrainians were supposed to be our close friends, and we had much in common, including a history of fighting Germany as part of the same country.
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    The invasion of Ukraine made it impossible to deny just how brutal and repressive Russia had become. It was an unspeakable act of cruelty, designed to subjugate a neighbor and erase its ethnic iden y. It gave Moscow an excuse to crush any domestic opposition. Now, the government is sending thousands upon thousands of drafted men to go kill Ukrainians. The war shows that Russia is no longer just dictatorial and aggressive; it has become a fascist state.
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    As an economist, my father was already aware of the Soviet Union’s structural problems. But living in western Europe led him and my mother to question the system more deeply, and they were excited when Mikhail Gorbachev launched perestroika in 1985. So, it seemed, were most Soviet residents. One didn’t have to live in western Europe to realize that the Soviet Union’s shops offered a narrow range of low-quality products, such as shoes that were painful to wear. Soviet residents knew the government was lying when it claimed to be leading “progressive mankind.”
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    But as an export official, I could see that the West’s economic restrictions had serious repercussions for the country. The Russian military industry was heavily dependent on Western-made components and products. It used U.S. and European tools to service drone engines and motors. It relied on Western producers to build gear for radiation-proof electronics, which are critical for the satellites Russian officials use to gather intelligence, communicate, and carry out precision strikes. Russian manufacturers worked with French companies to get the sensors needed for our airplanes. Even some of the cloth used in light aircraft, such as weather balloons, was made by Western businesses.
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    Even after the January summit, I didn’t believe that Putin would launch a full-fledged war. Ukraine in 2022 was plainly more united and pro-Western than it had been in 2014. Nobody would greet Russians with flowers. The West’s highly combative statements about a potential Russian invasion made clear that the United States and Europe would react strongly. My time working in arms and exports had taught me that the Russian military did not have the capability to overrun its biggest European neighbor and that, aside from Belarus, no outside state would offer us meaningful support. Putin, I figured, must have known this, too—despite all the yes men who shielded him from the truth.
    ...

    https://www.foreignaffairs.com/russi...boris-bondarev

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    hater's all-in on the Islamic extremist Iran now.
    Lol Nazi extremist fan talks about Iran extremism

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    EU has gone to great length to protect Iran and it's economy from USA sanctions, it looks like this is over. If Iran's regime think it has internal problems now, wait till they see what it will looks like with their economy in the toilet.
    Yesh sure buddy

    Brandon was on his knees sucking for oil just weeks ago

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    Unfortunately, there is method to their madness. Russia has already destroyed 30% of Ukraine's electrical grid with winter approaching and destroying more every day.
    yeah the method is to kill off civilians

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    Lol Nazi extremist fan talks about Iran extremism
    you always have to lie


    Ukraine is not a Nazi state. Iran is an Islamic fundamentalist state.

    You are now stanning for the state of Iran.

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    yeah the method is to kill off civilians
    Didn't say I agreed with it, but you can see the calculation.

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    Didn't say I agreed with it, but you can see the calculation.
    the calculation to kill civilians? how is that helping their attempted invasion?

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    This is not Iran...


    Its France today



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    This is not Russia


    Its France today



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    low information hater never even heard of the petrol strike

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    Russia’s use of Iranian drones in Ukraine raises stakes for U.S., Europe

    raising the stakes for the U.S. and its allies to quickly send air defense systems to the country.

    the Iranians have clearly chosen their camp,”

    30 percent of Ukraine’s power stations had been destroyed, causing massive blackouts across the country

    “No space left for negotiations with Putin’s regime,”

    https://thehill.com/policy/international/3693790-zelensky-one-third-of-ukraines-power-stations-destroyed-in-past-week/

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    the calculation to kill civilians? how is that helping their attempted invasion?
    Its the calculation USA has done in every conflict they have been in

    USA has first obliterated all civilian infrastructure in a country.


    Putovich just using US playbook now....

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    Its the calculation USA has done in every conflict they have been in

    USA has first obliterated all civilian infrastructure in a country.


    Putovich just using US playbook now....
    You aren't for world peace at all.

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    You aren't for world peace at all.
    Fake news from fake news Chimpanzee


    Both of these teams should be on the negotiating table yesterday.

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