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    Kyiv in 3-5 days.

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    Sure. Much cheaper and effective than either of the wars you didn't seem to have a problem with the last 20 years.
    What? I was 100% against the Iraq war from Day 1.

    And I wanted US troops returned home after Osama was brought to justice.

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    What? I was 100% against the Iraq war from Day 1.

    And I wanted US troops returned home after Osama was brought to justice.
    And you paid for them all. This is a much better use of your money.

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    Glad americans are coming around

    Good news.



    Time for peace

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    And you paid for them all.
    Yes, I'm well aware.

    Here is me 9 years ago commenting on the Iraq war:

    Wow! What a disaster. George W. Bush.... the gift that keeps on giving. Republicans used to always ask "would you rather Saddam still be in power?". At this point, "YES" -- especially if it meant we were never there and didn't burn through trillions of dollars, lose thousands of american military and Iraqi civilian lives, and destabilize the whole region to boot. Things may not have been perfect before, but they are a complete epic storm right now; and this after all we sacrificed.
    And here is me 11 years ago commenting on the Iraq war:

    I will never get over how stupid of decision it was to invade that country.

    Ron Paul takes reasonable principles to illogical ends, but here he nailed just about every point. Too bad he ended the statement making reference to a fantasy that the American people would be asked to sacrifice anything (i.e., higher taxes, draft, etc.).

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    Yes, I'm well aware.

    Here is me 9 years ago commenting on the Iraq war:



    And here is my 11 years ago commenting on the Iraq war:
    Good for you. What makes you think Putin would honor any deal you want to give him?

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    Good for you. What makes you think Putin would honor any deal you want to give him?
    When the cost outweighs the benefit of violating it. Russia doesn't want a prolonged war and they'll have already taken what they really wanted which was the land bridge to Crimea.

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    When the cost outweighs the benefit of violating it. Russia doesn't want a prolonged war and they'll have already taken what they really wanted which was the land bridge to Crimea.
    They really want all of Ukraine.

    Fold now and Russia will be invading again in a few years just like last time.

    Make the cost of invading and occupying Ukraine outweigh the benefits; you'll be set there for decades.

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    They really want all of Ukraine.

    Fold now and Russia will be invading again in a few years just like last time.

    Make the cost of invading and occupying Ukraine outweigh the benefits; you'll be set there for decades.
    Horse , Dumper, you just don't want to lose not to Putin, uh, uh, you don't want to lose to Dale.

    tee, hee.

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    They really want all of Ukraine.

    Fold now and Russia will be invading again in a few years just like last time.
    We don't know that for a fact. Russia invaded Finland in the Winter War and Finland ceded territory (in fact, like 10% of country) for peace. Russia hasn't invaded Finland since.

    We don't need to give $10s of billions more in new promises. Let Europe do it if they think it's actually worth it. I want us to scale down the support dramatically and reset Ukraine's expectations. Then maybe more lives can be saved too.

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    We don't know that for a fact. Russia invaded Finland in the Winter War and Finland ceded territory (in fact, like 10% of country) for peace. Russia hasn't invaded Finland since.

    We don't need to give $10s of billions more in new promises. Let Europe do it if they think it's actually worth it. I want us to scale down the support dramatically and reset Ukraine's expectations. Then maybe more lives can be saved too.
    No, 7, you're wasting your time, son. Dumper, and a host of others on this Board will never agree to that. They don't give a about Ukr Nazi's...they don't want to see old Dale get his way. Not for money, marbles, nor chalk. Biden bends over and does something like that and I'm gonna teach them somethin'. Oh, daddy, am I ever.

    Russia

    Let us proceed...

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    "Crimea by Fall"


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    Ukraine!

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    Deep & hard, just do-do for the lube.

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    so much winnning
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    Hater is ready to call Kupyansk


    The Russians will take Kupyansk in a few days.


    Calling it now....

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    We don't know that for a fact. Russia invaded Finland in the Winter War and Finland ceded territory (in fact, like 10% of country) for peace. Russia hasn't invaded Finland since.
    Russia had some other things going on IIRC.

    We don't need to give $10s of billions more in new promises. Let Europe do it if they think it's actually worth it. I want us to scale down the support dramatically and reset Ukraine's expectations. Then maybe more lives can be saved too.
    Nope. That will guarantee more civilian deaths and stolen children. Make a stand with Europe.

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    Russia had some other things going on IIRC.
    For 80+ years?

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    For 80+ years?
    Absolutely. You didn't notice? Finland did. Now Russia will NEVER with Finland again.

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    Absolutely. You didn't notice? Now they will NEVER with Finland again.
    No, nothing that would have stopped them for MOST of those 80+ years.

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    No, nothing that would have stopped them for MOST of those 80+ years.
    Not even being invaded by Hitler -- yeah, of course you're right.

    Real Soviet scholar, this one....

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    Not even being invaded by Hitler -- yeah, of course you're right.

    Real Soviet scholar, this one....
    I have no idea what you're on about now. Hitler died in 1945. Do you think he's still alive? There has been peace between Finland and Russia for 80+ years.

    Russia could have tried again to invade in 2015 or 2008 or many other years without concern for Hitler.

    They didn't.

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