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    Ep 4.
    Was Kream really that exteme a prima donna prick?

    Did McKinney tolerate his sitting and brooding / pouting when the rest of the team had to run?
    Acting like a with his phony rejections of orange juice and paper order.

    This chit real Lakers?

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    Kream did force his way out of Milwaukee because he needed the the Muslim support but he only asked to go to NY or LW but not Chicago or Detroit which has a significant Muslim population then.

    Almost smells like fisher has to be in LA for his daughter.

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    Cheesy and goofy as , but I actually like this show l

    John C Reilly is great tbh, and the dude who plays does a good Magic impression

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    It's kind of annoying the way the show tried to make it look like McKinney invented running basketball. Even though Tom Nissalke, Bob Bass, and Doug Moe had been doing it for years with the Spurs by then.

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    It's kind of annoying the way the show tried to make it look like McKinney invented running basketball. Even though Tom Nissalke, Bob Bass, and Doug Moe had been doing it for years with the Spurs by then.
    They made McKinney look like some great prodigy especially during that scene where he was designing the offense.

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    Kareem and Magic are both not likable but for different reasons. Kareem is an anti-social bag. While Magic is an attention that is obsessed with people liking him.

    One thing I wonder is how accurate is the portrayal of Riley. He comes across as this socially awkward guy who lacks confidence. From the get-go he emanates a great sense of self-doubt when in the presence of other people. It's just amazing to thinking how he will go through a 180 transformation and become a guy who has swag and an authoritative figure that commands respect.

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    Kareem and Magic are both not likable but for different reasons. Kareem is an anti-social bag. While Magic is an attention that is obsessed with people liking him.

    One thing I wonder is how accurate is the portrayal of Riley. He comes across as this socially awkward guy who lacks confidence. From the get-go he emanates a great sense of self-doubt when in the presence of other people. It's just amazing to thinking how he will go through a 180 transformation and become a guy who has swag and an authoritative figure that commands respect.
    I have met Kareem a couple of times and yeah he seemed like a really sour person. Some of my friends ran into him at various times at UCLA and said the same. I don't think that's a fair characterization of Magic though. Having met him a few times I think he's just someone who respects his fans and genuinely gets along with people. Only other player I have ever seen who went out of his way to connect with his fans like Magic is Manu.

    Also the vet being a to the rook is pretty standard. I remember reading Tim wouldn't speak to Tony for like months when he got there for example. Guess he was expecting the Spurs to get Kidd in the summer?

    I don't believe in gy Riley for a second. Dude was a college star who played nine years in the NBA, I strongly doubt he'd be someone so weak.

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    Jerry Buss fingering his ho at the restaurant booth in front of his 8 year old or so daughter.
    Rather then a subtle reference the show has to give a cheap porn type explicit camera angle.
    Wow.
    Really?

    I think this confirms Lakers Inc / ABC / Disney / Stern Jr are not entirely behind this show even if it is profitable and they get a piece.

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    Who is depicted by the stocky NFL tight end type who flattens Magic with the pick?
    Also one of the more animated butt hurt over McKinneys exercise program.

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    Who is depicted by the stocky NFL tight end type who flattens Magic with the pick?
    Also one of the more animated butt hurt over McKinneys exercise program.
    https://www.basketball-reference.com...boonero01.html

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    I have met Kareem a couple of times and yeah he seemed like a really sour person. Some of my friends ran into him at various times at UCLA and said the same. I don't think that's a fair characterization of Magic though. Having met him a few times I think he's just someone who respects his fans and genuinely gets along with people. Only other player I have ever seen who went out of his way to connect with his fans like Magic is Manu.

    Also the vet being a to the rook is pretty standard. I remember reading Tim wouldn't speak to Tony for like months when he got there for example. Guess he was expecting the Spurs to get Kidd in the summer?

    I don't believe in gy Riley for a second. Dude was a college star who played nine years in the NBA, I strongly doubt he'd be someone so weak.
    I have known that for years that Vets haze rookies. It wasn't Kareem freezing out Magic that showed to me he was bag but the way he was just aloof from the rest of his teammates. He had a strong anti social vibe.

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    This show is starting to look like character assassination on Kareem. They show him being a pouting not even sitting with the team in the timeout before the final play of their first game in San Diego when in the real game he's right there in the huddle. Then they make him look sour after hitting the shot when in reality he looked pretty pleased with the team. Here is the actual game video:


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    This show is starting to look like character assassination on Kareem. They show him being a pouting not even sitting with the team in the timeout before the final play of their first game in San Diego when in the real game he's right there in the huddle. Then they make him look sour after hitting the shot when in reality he looked pretty pleased with the team. Here is the actual game video:

    Obviously exaggerating but it was well known that Kareem was aloof in this era
    Because he wasn’t whoring and boozing with Magic Buss and company.
    Plus to show his struggles with changing religion and injustice as why he was withdrawn is more than fair and not charchter assassination … folks tripping on the early portrayals of West Kareem and Riley but I think all will be redeemed by show end. Buss and Magic are living it up now but the open of the show and Jeannie reactions to her father will be far more damaging than any shade thrown at those guys early on. You can see the arc plus I read the book it’s based on.

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    Damn, I didn't know that whole thing with Tarkanian's friend, Vic

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    Obviously exaggerating but it was well known that Kareem was aloof in this era
    Because he wasn’t whoring and boozing with Magic Buss and company.
    Plus to show his struggles with changing religion and injustice as why he was withdrawn is more than fair and not charchter assassination … folks tripping on the early portrayals of West Kareem and Riley but I think all will be redeemed by show end. Buss and Magic are living it up now but the open of the show and Jeannie reactions to her father will be far more damaging than any shade thrown at those guys early on. You can see the arc plus I read the book it’s based on.
    This show is going over the top making him look like a . Like when he tells the kid to off when he asks for a photo with him. I was in that same kind of situation one time when I saw the Lakers at the airport and he did take a photo with me, though it was clear he didn't want to do and I felt bad doing it but my dad wanted a pic of me with him. The part about him hating being admired for putting a ball through a hoop seems pretty consistent but he never acted like an asshole to me like he did the kid in Episode 1, he just seemed like he wanted to be alone. And retelling that first game as if he was pouting on the bench and completely disinterested, telling Magic to get the off him, angrily walking past Hot Rod Hundley who wanted a postgame interview is all made up . Why couldn't they just tell the real story, that Kareem tells Magic there's 81 more games left and this game isn't that big a deal? I hate when they inject fake drama into what was already a really good story.
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    Obviously exaggerating but it was well known that Kareem was aloof in this era
    Because he wasn’t whoring and boozing with Magic Buss and company.
    Plus to show his struggles with changing religion and injustice as why he was withdrawn is more than fair and not charchter assassination … folks tripping on the early portrayals of West Kareem and Riley but I think all will be redeemed by show end. Buss and Magic are living it up now but the open of the show and Jeannie reactions to her father will be far more damaging than any shade thrown at those guys early on. You can see the arc plus I read the book it’s based on.
    I would say Riley's depiction to me seems like the one that is way off compared to the others. It's hard for me to imagine Riley was this socially awkward guy who had confidence issues.

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    You can see the arc plus I read the book it’s based on.
    Since you read the book, is the storyline about Kareem being lazy and getting winded in practice true? I find that one really hard to believe considering Abdul-Jabbar seemed to be in ridiculously good shape all the time. I just can't imagine a lazy guy lasting in the NBA as a productive starter on a le contender until 41.

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    Since you read the book, is the storyline about Kareem being lazy and getting winded in practice true? I find that one really hard to believe considering Abdul-Jabbar seemed to be in ridiculously good shape all the time. I just can't imagine a lazy guy lasting in the NBA as a productive starter on a le contender until 41.
    Nah not lazy just more coasting …
    Kareem himself said Earvin helped reinvigorate his compe ive spirit … Riley too later on

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    Damn I didn't even recognize Avon Barksdale with the beard playing Spencer Haywood.

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    Jeannie reactions to her father will be far more damaging
    Not that this show will get into it, it undoubtedly won't.
    But based on what you know is Jeannies dating Phil Jackson due in small or large part to her dysfunctional upbringing?
    Might sound like I'm burning on Phildo, I'm really not. While i find him to have been a smug en led prick, I have no doubt he is interesting.
    Just that for a fairly attractive chick who can buy all the accessories richies can buy (fake s, having her face and skin regularly buffed out etc), and undoubtedly had a million dating opportunities seems an odd choice to go after kind of geezer aura Phil 16 years her senior. Daddy issues?

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    I would say Riley's depiction to me seems like the one that is way off compared to the others. It's hard for me to imagine Riley was this socially awkward guy who had confidence issues.
    Riley struggled after his playing days were over, he said himself that he didn’t know what he was gonna do. He also said he felt tremendous pressure during his head coaching career with the Lakers, thought he could be fired any time.

    I too think Riles has no confidence issue but I guess the show wanted to show his insecurities with finding/starting a new career.

    At the of the latest episode, Chick put him at ease so I’m guessing we’ll see a more confident Pat in the next episodes

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    Riley struggled after his playing days were over, he said himself that he didn’t know what he was gonna do. He also said he felt tremendous pressure during his head coaching career with the Lakers, thought he could be fired any time.

    I too think Riles has no confidence issue but I guess the show wanted to show his insecurities with finding/starting a new career.

    At the of the latest episode, Chick put him at ease so I’m guessing we’ll see a more confident Pat in the next episodes
    Next episode Riley is going to be promoted to assistant coach since Westhead had to take over for McKinney, who was in a coma for a few days and was feared to have brain damage and later fired.

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    Not that this show will get into it, it undoubtedly won't.
    But based on what you know is Jeannies dating Phil Jackson due in small or large part to her dysfunctional upbringing?
    Might sound like I'm burning on Phildo, I'm really not. While i find him to have been a smug en led prick, I have no doubt he is interesting.
    Just that for a fairly attractive chick who can buy all the accessories richies can buy (fake s, having her face and skin regularly buffed out etc), and undoubtedly had a million dating opportunities seems an odd choice to go after kind of geezer aura Phil 16 years her senior. Daddy issues?
    I would bet so and they are alluding to it a bit if you are watching and Buss mom and ex wife say it …
    And not sure if he fingered a chick (unknowingly) in front of Jeannie but that is the way they chose to express how his sexing younger chicks probably did manifest itself a bit in Phil smooth talker big ego many chicks chase versions of their pops my wife included except I’m only 4 years older than my wife

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    Next episode Riley is going to be promoted to assistant coach since Westhead had to take over for McKinney, who was in a coma for a few days and was feared to have brain damage and later fired.
    That bike accident holy , that fall was brutal

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    This show is starting to look like character assassination on Kareem. They show him being a pouting not even sitting with the team in the timeout before the final play of their first game in San Diego when in the real game he's right there in the huddle. Then they make him look sour after hitting the shot when in reality he looked pretty pleased with the team. Here is the actual game video:

    FFS and the show has ic inbounding the ball and heroically rebelling against the play called in the huddle.
    Reality is Ford inbounded and threw the pass to Kream.

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