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    Dude. You're off by so much as to not even be talking sensically. CA just had ~100B budget surplus while taking care of 40 million+ people far better than Texas ever dreamed of doing, we're it so inclined to actually dream of caring about people. Exodus? They lost 350,000 people. Why? Because it's crazy expensive because of that simple economic principle of supply and demand. People want to.live there desperately but it's too expensive. Meanwhile Texas is amongst the worst states in healthcare, poverty, etc, and is THE WORST in the country on maternal mortality. Having a baby here is almost as likely to kill you as having one in Pakistan, lol. But go ahead with your ignorant bravado and when we add 11 million more people, we'll have the same problems as CA still without even trying to give a about the poor, homeless, POC, women, LGBTQ folks, etc. Spare me your ignorant BS. If you had any ing clue, you'd also want to live in CA because it's simply a better state, almost across the board as Texas.

    And before you start spouting off about what you think.must be CA's ridiculous tax rates leading to their budget surpluses, know that 3 former CA residents (allcrazy conservative) told me the taxes are about the same, maybe higher here with the property taxes more than making up for their state income taxes.

    I'm simply fed up with ignorance and the regurgitation of said ignorance simply because Fox News told you so. Wake the up.
    That's a cheery description but not very accurate. Yes, there's a surplus but that's because wealthy people are carrying the tax burden. There's a huge divide in California between the "Haves and the Have nots". Overall, the cost of buying a home, paying for gas, groceries, utilities & taxes is just too much. Homelessness is sadly rampant & its a problem not being addressed properly. Texas is experiencing some of those same issues in Austin. California is beautiful and has a lot to offer with its natural attractions (beach, skiing, climate, etc.) but many people are just being squeezed out and unable to afford it. Better state than Texas? Not to live, not in my opinion. Fun to visit though.

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    That's a cheery description but not very accurate. Yes, there's a surplus but that's because wealthy people are carrying the tax burden. There's a huge divide in California between the "Haves and the Have nots". Overall, the cost of buying a home, paying for gas, groceries, utilities & taxes is just too much. Homelessness is sadly rampant & its a problem not being addressed properly. Texas is experiencing some of those same issues in Austin. California is beautiful and has a lot to offer with its natural attractions (beach, skiing, climate, etc.) but many people are just being squeezed out and unable to afford it. Better state than Texas? Not to live, not in my opinion. Fun to visit though.
    I lived in Boston until I was 11 years old and then moved down to Raleigh, NC and then after college moved to Charlotte and have lived there since then. My mom's family lives in Southern California about an hour outside of LA. So I have a good idea of how expensive things are all over the country. One thing I will tell you is that the South's biggest advantage over California the last 30 years has been the cost of living but that advantage is now starting to erode away. If it wasn't for cost of living California would whoop the South's ass easily. I have been to California too many times in my life and nothing in the South compares to it from a cultural, geographic perspective.

    Cost of living is skyrocketing here in NC and all over the South. I bought a town house about close to 2 years ago during the summertime and it's value has now increased by nearly 200K in just two years. If I had waited 2 more years, I would have been priced out of ever buying a home. By also buying a home I actually saved on rent money since my mortage is lower than the rent I would be paying for an apartment in Charlotte since rents have gone up by a lot. My point is now the South has reached a tipping point where it's not cheap where it's affordable for anyone like it used to be. Back when I graduated college in '06 you could live by yourself and rent an apartment for 600-700 dollars per a month but now you are looking at 1800-2000 a month in a lot of areas. Low cost of living was the biggest advantage the South had in getting talented young people to stay and not leave to places like LA, NYC.

    I can't see a young professional wanting to live in a place that is expensive and also culturally backwards. The south as a whole is trash. Even my state NC isn't great but it's still better than the rest of south in the sense it's not nearly as backwards as the rest of the south due to all the Northern transplants that have moved down here the last 30 which has made it politically a purple state. Even with the cultural changes here in NC it still can't hold a candle stick to California when it comes to culture, entertainment, and beauty.

    My prediction in 8 years by 2030 the South will have fully caught up to California when it comes to housing costs and being unaffordable. This will in return cause the South to lose talented young professionals because like I said why would you live in an expensive backwards place when you can live in a place equally as expensive but is culturally better and has better amenities along with great entertainment. Unless we experience a housing crash that results in the pricing of housing dropping significantly I don't see my prediction changing.

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    A bunch of young professionals are backward AF. Texas is finding a way to become even more conservative despite the demographics, because conservatives know they have a place to go where the government caters to their beliefs.

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    Pretty much the entire country is becoming too expensive for most people. Housing is out of control. Both parties are working hard to keep wages down so there will be no relief even for grocery bills. And then we have the insane GOP on their forced births kick -- and will soon go after birth control -- so we'll have millions of unwanted kids grow into maladjusted adults meaning housing will get even worse.

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    White shooting 25% from 3 in the playoffs.

    Is Keldon the next White? Looks promising on a very bad team, becomes a marginalized role player on a good team?
    We may be watching different series. White has been excellent for Boston in recent games including during a crucial stretch yesterday in Game 6 right before the half. In fairness he was bad in the Nets series.

    Frankly he, Kyle, and Bert have been important cogs on their respective teams this round. I absolutely can see Keldon and Yak doing the same on different teams.

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    That's a cheery description but not very accurate. Yes, there's a surplus but that's because wealthy people are carrying the tax burden. There's a huge divide in California between the "Haves and the Have nots". Overall, the cost of buying a home, paying for gas, groceries, utilities & taxes is just too much. Homelessness is sadly rampant & its a problem not being addressed properly. Texas is experiencing some of those same issues in Austin. California is beautiful and has a lot to offer with its natural attractions (beach, skiing, climate, etc.) but many people are just being squeezed out and unable to afford it. Better state than Texas? Not to live, not in my opinion. Fun to visit though.
    Does Texas not have these have and have nots? You just overlooked my post because you disagreed with me. I just stated CA indeed has problems but in comparison to TX, given they have 11 million more people, they're not only doing a better job in every category I mentioned (plus many other metrices) they just had a $100B surplus. Texas dreams of surpluses in the single digits.

    Texas is also as authoritarian, or way worse, as you conservative folks love to say about CA. Banning books. School boards removing books that were ok for last 75 years, abortion bans when broadly supported by Texans, CRT nonsense, Jade Helm (LMAO), etc, etc, etc.

    So you can fantasize about Texas being a magical eden where we have none of the problems CA does, but you'd both be wrong and miss the fact they have 11M more ppl in much more urban environment which is going to come with problems whether you approve or not. And again, TX ranks worse in practically every metric even with 11M fewer residents. And btw, rich ppl in CA should have a larger tax burden. That's how our socialist neighbors in Canada and Europe provide healthcare that doesn't bankrupt ppl and force them under bridges. And FTR, every metric of health and happiness ess not only puts CA OVER TX, but in those higher tax countries in Europe and Canada.

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    A bunch of young professionals are backward AF. Texas is finding a way to become even more conservative despite the demographics, because conservatives know they have a place to go where the government caters to their beliefs.
    My best friend from Hschool who now lives in Dallas tells me all the time how backwards the young professionals he deals with at work are. So I definitely believe you.

    I will say this Texas and a lot of these Southern states have been able to steal young professionals from other states due to the low cost of living in the past. I have seen it here in NC and deal with a lot of professional career people who moved down here from NY, LA, etc and it was all due to affordability or else they wouldn't be here.

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    Pretty much the entire country is becoming too expensive for most people. Housing is out of control. Both parties are working hard to keep wages down so there will be no relief even for grocery bills. And then we have the insane GOP on their forced births kick -- and will soon go after birth control -- so we'll have millions of unwanted kids grow into maladjusted adults meaning housing will get even worse.
    Housing is a huge driver for sure. Demand is a naturally part of the equation, but so is lagging supply. One overlooked factors is that we lost a generation of electricians, plumbers, and others folks in the housing trades typically requiring licensing or that are heavily regulated (for good reason) during the Great Recession. Our immigration policies dont help, nor does stupid social stigma about being in one of these trades. Combined and Builders just can’t keep up.

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    A bunch of young professionals are backward AF. Texas is finding a way to become even more conservative despite the demographics, because conservatives know they have a place to go where the government caters to their beliefs.
    I mean, this depends on your assumptions about “the demographics.” Latinos (40% of state population) are historic ballot splitters, and Austin hasn't amassed that many out of state “progressives” to balance out the rest of the state.

    An underrated thing in Texas is how hard the state makes it to vote, and to register voters. That’s by design.

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    My best friend from Hschool who now lives in Dallas tells me all the time how backwards the young professionals he deals with at work are. So I definitely believe you.

    I will say this Texas and a lot of these Southern states have been able to steal young professionals from other states due to the low cost of living in the past. I have seen it here in NC and deal with a lot of professional career people who moved down here from NY, LA, etc and it was all due to affordability or else they wouldn't be here.
    Maybe, but you should give NC more credit. As someone with ties to Raleigh id say you’re ignoring the powerhouse research triangle in that area. The region has LONG been a hub for top engineers. And, after NYC and Atlanta, Charlotte has long been a big draw for folks in the banking sector with BoA and Wells having strong footholds there.

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    Maybe, but you should give NC more credit. As someone with ties to Raleigh id say you’re ignoring the powerhouse research triangle in that area. The region has LONG been a hub for top engineers. And, after NYC and Atlanta, Charlotte has long been a big draw for folks in the banking sector with BoA and Wells having strong footholds there.
    I grew up in Raleigh so yes, I know the Research Triangle very well. My parents still live there. I know Raleigh like the back of my hand and I agree with you it's definitely a top hub for tech after the Bay Area, Boston, Seattle. Ultimately why people move down here is the affordability. That's why my parents moved down here way back in '95 when I was 11 years old. They saw they could get a bigger house down here then they could up in Boston. Affordability first and then career opportunities has always been the reason why people moved down here to NC in general. I know this because I have always asked people why they have moved down here in the first place out of curiosity.

    I have also heard transplants tell me NC is boring compared to their former places they moved from and that if they could have afforded to still live in LA, Bay Area, NYC they would have. I'm objective about my home state. It's not bad but neither is it great.

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    Out of curiosity from a non American.
    There are many news report of looting from shops, trains, stealing things inside cars. Which usually is in California.

    Is this rampant? Or news just exaggerated it? Because it seems California is safer than Texas based on above statements. So is it worse in other states? Or it's not as bad as it looks in California?

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    Out of curiosity from a non American.
    There are many news report of looting from shops, trains, stealing things inside cars. Which usually is in California.

    Is this rampant? Or news just exaggerated it? Because it seems California is safer than Texas based on above statements. So is it worse in other states? Or it's not as bad as it looks in California?
    California has higher violent crime rate (~5%) but lower cide rate (~4% lower). Texas has higher property crime rate.

    Texas has the highest incarceration rate in the developed world. 50% higher than CA per capita. Spends 30% less on education per student. Spends 40% less on Healthcare per resident. Texas has the highest infant mortality and maternal mortality rate in the US.

    CA just had a $100B budget surplus. CA is a superior state. And I'm a native Texan.

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    Love me some DWhite, but sometimes facts need to replace BS. BS was being spread. I corrected it.

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    California has higher violent crime rate (~5%) but lower cide rate (~4% lower). Texas has higher property crime rate.

    Texas has the highest incarceration rate in the developed world. 50% higher than CA per capita. Spends 30% less on education per student. Spends 40% less on Healthcare per resident. Texas has the highest infant mortality and maternal mortality rate in the US.

    CA just had a $100B budget surplus. CA is a superior state. And I'm a native Texan.
    Your facts are so off on that and I would say you probably made most of them up. post where your getting these stats because they are not real.

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    Your facts are so off on that and I would say you probably made most of them up. post where your getting these stats because they are not real.
    Read them and weep, Nancy. Cry more you snowflake.

    I'll be accepting your full apology tonight:

    https://siepr.stanford.edu/publicati...n%20California.

    I repeat, conservatives such as yourself are a brainwashed, brain dead, ongoing and gathering threat to humanity because you're oblivious to readily verifiable facts.

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    Out of curiosity from a non American.
    There are many news report of looting from shops, trains, stealing things inside cars. Which usually is in California.

    Is this rampant? Or news just exaggerated it? Because it seems California is safer than Texas based on above statements. So is it worse in other states? Or it's not as bad as it looks in California?
    I would say in general big cities all over the US tend to have higher crime rates due to their large populations than the smaller cities regardless of states. The only big city that I think where the crime rate is ridiculously bad is Chicago but I think in the next 10 years it will get cleaned up much like NYC did during the 90's.

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    Read them and weep, Nancy. Cry more you snowflake.

    I'll be accepting your full apology tonight:

    https://siepr.stanford.edu/publicati...n%20California.

    I repeat, conservatives such as yourself are a brainwashed, brain dead, ongoing and gathering threat to humanity because you're oblivious to readily verifiable facts.
    Wow the US is so ed up

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    Anyone remember that time talkspurs called me out for making up statistics then, when proof of those statistics was posted, that same priceless coward failed to acknowledge how wrong he was, because it shattered his worldview as fed to him by right wing media?

    Good times. I repeat, conservative ideology is a growing threat to humanity. Look no further than the El Paso and Buffalo shootings where rich white conservative -ups bought weapons and massacred people in the name of such wonderful ideas as White Replacement Theory peddled in right wing media. Dangerous times are coming because facts no longer have meaning, or worse yet, value.

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    The White replacement theory for the Spurs was Primo, but it might not turn out to be so primo.

    Ah, the threads are united.

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    Anyone remember that time talkspurs called me out for making up statistics then, when proof of those statistics was posted, that same priceless coward failed to acknowledge how wrong he was, because it shattered his worldview as fed to him by right wing media?

    Good times. I repeat, conservative ideology is a growing threat to humanity. Look no further than the El Paso and Buffalo shootings where rich white conservative -ups bought weapons and massacred people in the name of such wonderful ideas as White Replacement Theory peddled in right wing media. Dangerous times are coming because facts no longer have meaning, or worse yet, value.

    Plus it's just embarrassing how right-wingers don't see how clearly their culture war views just so happen to line up with the people that they themselves claim to hate... anti gay marriage, anti choice, want religious fundamentals to play a major part in governance, are misty eyed about the Confederate flag glory days? Check, check, check, check. Republicans are the American Taliban now, but somehow refashion that as a hybrid of Captain America and Jesus in a cape & mask and call it super heroism.

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    The White replacement theory for the Spurs was Primo, but it might not turn out to be so primo.

    Ah, the threads are united.
    Now if Primo can only turn out to be Danny Green, then the threads will be united.

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    Plus it's just embarrassing how right-wingers don't see how clearly their culture war views just so happen to line up with the people that they themselves claim to hate... anti gay marriage, anti choice, want religious fundamentals to play a major part in governance, are misty eyed about the Confederate flag glory days? Check, check, check, check. Republicans are the American Taliban now, but somehow refashion that as a hybrid of Captain America and Jesus in a cape & mask and call it super heroism.
    Wow, what a warped viewpoint.... The leftist propaganda got your brain looking silky smooth eh?

    This is a basketball forum you basket cases!
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    Read them and weep, Nancy. Cry more you snowflake.

    I'll be accepting your full apology tonight:

    https://siepr.stanford.edu/publicati...n%20California.

    I repeat, conservatives such as yourself are a brainwashed, brain dead, ongoing and gathering threat to humanity because you're oblivious to readily verifiable facts.
    The difference in homicide rate is realitively small and your looking at one year.
    Incarceration rate. Thats because we actually like to put people that commit crimes away instead of letting them go free. Why do you think yall have all those smash and grabs. yes they dont go to jail which makes that number look better but you crime rate is higher.
    Yall have a higher violent crimes rate (which you admit) but it effects a lot more people. it effects about 100 times more people then the homicide rate. ≈4.6 for homicides to ≈430 per 100k. homicides dont effect you to much but you are more likely to be hit by violent crime.

    We may spend less on education but per your own article our results are better. "And while K-12 spending per student is much higher in California, student outcomes are if anything better in Texas." Give me the better results over spending more.

    Healthcare yall may spend more but wait times are worse. Also most of yalls spending is actually federal speding that is past through to the state so it really is not state spending.

    wait times Texas admitted 98 discharged 133. cali 150 and 160. Once again give me the better results. https://www.autoinsurance.org/longes...cy-room-waits/

    Your mortality rate is off as well. Texas does not have the highest mortality rate. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/s..._mortality.htm

    Realize that your stats were taken from a Stanford article which is a cali university so they would want to make it look as good as possible. And saying calie is better is so off. It was better people would not be moving. I do wish most of them would stay out there though and stop trying to bring their failed polices here.

    As far as education. Maybe yall spend more

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