SCOTUS Poised to Overturn Roe v Wade per leaked opinion

[Nathan89]

I don't think men should pay child support for an unwanted pregnancy either, but that argument sort of goes away if you make it overly bersome for the woman to terminate the pregnancy.

So not sure why people like Nathan are more vocal about abortion than they are about banning forced child support.

Wait, yes I am...

Forced child support should not exist in a world with abortion. Agreed. That's not going to gain any momentum on either side of the political spectrum.

[Winehole23]

Forced child support should not exist in a world with abortion. Agreed. That's not going to gain any momentum on either side of the political spectrum.

nm, this is just a silly distraction

[baseline bum]

minority rule, is that democracy?

LOL ever confusing the hole United States with a democracy. The nation was built on slavery and genocide, founded by slavers. Rule by the elite in direct opposition to the people is par for the course here.

[Winehole23]

LOL ever confusing the hole United States with a democracy. The nation was built on slavery and genocide, founded by slavers. Rule by the elite in direct opposition to the people is par for the course here.

I don't disagree, in fact that's sort of what I wanted to draw attention to.

[Nathan89]

Allowing the states to decide is a fair compromise.

[Nathan89]

The polled opinion should not matter to the Supreme Court.

[Nathan89]

Allowing the states to decide is a fair compromise.

Fair is really an understatement. These depraved people will ruin that in the future.

[Winehole23]

Allowing the states to decide is a fair compromise.

making this about men's rights is hilariously off-target

[baseline bum]

The polled opinion should not matter to the Supreme Court.

Overturning laws just because they don't like them should matter.

[Spurminator]

Forced child support should not exist in a world with abortion. Agreed. That's not going to gain any momentum on either side of the political spectrum.

Neither is overturning a legitimate election but that didn't stop you guys from flag-trucking all the way to DC. Try harder.

[vy65]

minority rule, is that democracy?

This is ing staggering

[ducks]

Supreme Court leak shows how far liberals will go to achieve their political ends: Severino

[vy65]

Allowing the states to decide is a fair compromise.

Why?

[vy65]

The polled opinion should not matter to the Supreme Court.

Also why?

[Spurminator]

"Protesting forced child support is too hard, better just force women to shut down their lives for 40 weeks to teach them a lesson about having sex."

Incel logic.

[baseline bum]

This is ing staggering

How so?

[Nathan89]

Force child support in a world with abortion should not be allowed. This is what was stated. This is a more logically consistent world.

The above is literally irrelevant to abortion.

[vy65]

How so?

I'm naive. I like to think we're more representative than this. It's not even control by elites. It's uneducated, ignorant, evangelicals in suburban and ex-urban areas imposing their morals and re ed world view on the majority.

[CosmicCowboy]

Biden's "vote for more Dems" take is terrible. Punting to voters is ridiculous when Dems have Congressional majorities and the presidency. If they have any stones, they'll do more than fundraise off this. Not holding my breath.

I agree. They don't want to fix it. they just want to get the base fired up to vote for them.

[baseline bum]

I'm naive. I like to think we're more representative than this. It's not even control by elites. It's uneducated, ignorant, evangelicals in suburban and ex-urban areas imposing their morals and re ed world view on the majority.

Meh it's evangelicals being useful idiots for the elites, still control by the elites.

[CosmicCowboy]

You also claimed that the cons ution doesn’t mention “abortion.” That’s an originalist argument. Do you still think that’s a good basis for this opinion, and if so, why are we acting like it’s 1776 in the year 2020?

I also responded to the elected official business

The 1776 cons ution made allowances for cons utional amendments at later dates and it has been effectively used. Your locked in "1776" claim is bogus.

[vy65]

The 1776 cons ution made allowances for cons utional amendments at later dates and it has been effectively used. Your locked in "1776" claim is bogus.

Very good. One of those amendments was the 14th, which abrogated the states' ability to restrict or infringe upon rights that weren't enumerated in the original cons ution or bill or rights. In light of that amendment, why does the cons ution's failure to mention "abortion" have any legal relevance whatsoever?

[Winehole23]

Meh it's evangelicals being useful idiots for the elites, still control by the elites.

Evangelicals didn't pivot to abortion until the late seventies when the IRS started revoking the tax-exempt status of "charitable" segregation academies in the south; they knew fighting for segregation wasn't a good look, abortion was a useful wedge issue to rally behind to beat Jimmy Carter, as well as to drive conservative Catholics into the movement.

I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had life separate from its mother that it became an individual person, and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed.

[Winehole23]

Very good. One of those amendments was the 14th, which abrogated the states' ability to restrict or infringe upon rights that weren't enumerated in the original cons ution or bill or rights. In light of that amendment, why does the cons ution's failure to mention "abortion" have any legal relevance whatsoever?

Abortion was legal in 1787

The enumeration in the Cons ution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

[baseline bum]

Evangelicals didn't pivot to abortion until the late seventies when the IRS started revoking the tax-exempt status of "charitable" segregation academies in the south; they knew fighting for segregation wasn't a good look, abortion was a useful wedge issue to rally behind to beat Jimmy Carter, as well as to drive conservative Catholics into the movement.

Yeah could only run implicitly on segregation by then. No more nigger, nigger, nigger.