why are these conflicting reports?
Shoes vs no shoes. Here's the truth: https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro/
PLAYER POS BODY FAT % HEIGHT W/O SHOES STANDING REACH WEIGHT (LBS) WINGSPAN Ochai Agbaji SG 5.40% 6' 4.50'' 8' 8.00'' 216.8 6' 10.25'' Patrick Baldwin Jr. SF 8.90% 6' 9.25'' 9' 2.50'' 230.8 7' 1.75'' MarJon Beauchamp SG 5.30% 6' 5.25'' 8' 10.00'' 196.6 7' 0.75'' Malaki Branham SG 6.10% 6' 4.00'' 8' 6.50'' 194.8 6' 10.00'' Christian Braun SG 6.20% 6' 5.50'' 8' 3.50'' 209.2 6' 6.50'' Kendall Brown SF 4.90% 6' 6.25'' 8' 7.00'' 201.2 6' 11.00'' Max Christie SG 4.80% 6' 4.25'' 8' 6.50'' 189.2 6' 8.75'' Dyson Daniels SG 4.90% 6' 6.00'' 8' 9.00'' 195.2 6' 10.50'' Johnny Davis PG 6.70% 6' 4.25'' 8' 7.50'' 196.4 6' 8.50'' Tari Eason PF 5.90% 6' 6.75'' 8' 11.50'' 217.4 7' 2.00'' Harrison Ingram SF 8.30% 6' 5.25'' 8' 7.50'' 232.8 7' 0.25'' Nikola Jovic SF 7.40% 6' 9.50'' 9' 0.50'' 222.6 7' 0.25'' Trevor Keels SG 13.50% 6' 3.25'' 8' 5.00'' 223.8 6' 7.25'' Jake LaRavia PF 9.00% 6' 6.75'' 8' 8.00'' 227.2 6' 9.50'' E.J. Liddell PF 12.20% 6' 5.50'' 8' 7.50'' 243.0 6' 11.75'' Bennedict Mathurin SG 5.70% 6' 4.50'' 8' 8.00'' 204.6 6' 9.00'' Bryce McGowens SG 5.40% 6' 5.25'' 8' 7.50'' 181.2 6' 8.75'' Leonard Miller SF 5.70% 6' 8.50'' 8' 10.50'' 211.0 7' 2.00'' Jean Montero PG 7.40% 6' 1.00'' 8' 2.50'' 171.8 6' 5.25'' Wendell Moore SG 7.50% 6' 4.25'' 8' 5.00'' 217.2 7' 0.50'' Gabriele Procida SG-SF 3.80% 6' 5.75'' 8' 10.00'' 192.8 6' 8.00'' David Roddy PF 11.60% 6' 4.50'' 8' 9.00'' 260.8 6' 11.50'' Shaedon Sharpe SG 4.80% 6' 4.25'' 8' 7.50'' 198.0 6' 11.50'' Drew Timme C 15.70% 6' 8.25'' 8' 11.50'' 231.6 7' 2.00'' Jabari Walker PF 12.10% 6' 6.75'' 8' 9.00'' 213.8 6' 10.75'' TyTy Washington Jr. SG 12.00% 6' 2.25'' 8' 3.50'' 196.4 6' 8.00'' Peyton Watson SF 5.20% 6' 6.75'' 8' 11.50'' 203.4 7' 0.50'' Blake Wesley SG 5.60% 6' 3.00'' 8' 7.00'' 187.2 6' 9.25'' Jaylin Williams C 8.00% 6' 8.75'' 9' 0.50'' 236.6 7' 1.00'' Mark Williams C 5.40% 7' 0.00'' 9' 9.00'' 242.4 7' 6.50'' Jalen Williams SG 8.90% 6' 4.50'' 8' 9.50'' 209.2 7' 2.25''
What’s the point of measuring both shoeless and in shoes when guys wear different shoes? I’m 5’9 barefoot, 5’11 in my J’s but easily 6’5 in stripper heels ��
No measures available for:
Chet Holmgren
Paolo Banchero
Jaden Ivey
Keegan Murray
AJ Griffin
Jalen Duren
Jeremy Sochan
Ousmane Dieng
Jaden Hardy
Ismael Kamagate
Josh Minnott
Jabari Smith
None that I can think of, other than a pathetic attempt at justifying the ridiculous, marketing driven measurements that keep being published time and again, without calling them outright as liars...
On the positive side, Baldwin Jr is a legit 6'9" with a 9'2.5" standing reach and 7'2" wingspan, and Nikola Jovic is 6'9.5" with a 9' standing reach and 7" wingspan. Daniels is 6'6", which is more than most SF and quite a few PFs...
On the negative side, Tari Eason is 6' 6.75'', Mathurin is 6'4.5" (6'7" my a$$), and there are no measurements for Duren and Sochan (basically they're probably 2+ inches shorter than advertised)
Johnny Davis is actually 6'4.25", which is very close to his 6'5" declared height. And Blake Wesley is 6'3", which is ok for a combo guard.
I never got very far in basketball but if you can play you can play. Measurements are only one variable.
We aren’t starting undersized Vassell and Keldon at the 3 and 4 because of bull measurements so much as we are due to poor roster construction. PATFO are pretty hopeless lately but I think they can atleast operate a measuring tape.
Where the are the hand sizes tho? So John B can go have an erection over those players
The board wouldn't let me post the whole table (too big), so I had to summarize. But you can check the link I provided, it's all there.
haha whoever we draft both John B and ATL Spur will proclaim them future superstars. Have to love the blind optimism!
haha I heard Primo’s was To The Moon. They were calling him Crypto Baby!!!
They measure both, and publish it. Not sure why Kev is picking this hill to die on.
Eason and L Miller’s hand sizes are the only ones that stand out. Closest thing to a freak is Eason measurement-wise. It’s almost Kawhi-esque.
Reading is definitely not your forte. Reading comprehension is just foreign.
if the next time i see primo, he's grabbing something from a shelf that boban can't reach, i'll become a full fledged disciple for bone plate analytics.
Actually Jalen Williams is a freak too
They measured no differently this year than any other year. You’re having a hissy about combine measurements. I can read and comprehend just fine, but your backpedaling needs some work.
Vassell was never measured at the combine.
From now on address me as DJay, and i’ll refer to you as Skinny Black
Whoop That Trick!!!
Some nice date here :
Terquavion Smith shoots lights out and he's a nice athlet ( but another guard)
What happened to Kolokoat the 3pt drills lol
Jalen Williams testing pretty good, plus the measurements today. He could rise imo
A lot of other things but i'm impressed by Liddel no step vertical numbers , his measurements were not bad also. He could be a late first round for us. Dejounte
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The low vert numbers for PBJ is very disappointing. May rule him out for my late first picks.
Wesley, even with his surprisingly weak measurements, is still an option for me
EJ, Jalen are guys I like with the late picks too
I am on the Ousmane Dieng train though Daniels and Sochan look good, I wonder why Sochan is not getting measurements?
Going over the lane agility times, how does John Butler, Diabate, Johnny Juzang, EJ Liddell.... The list goes on and on...beat Kendall Brown in Lane Agility time?
He may fall to the second round as athletic measurements were the main thing he had going for him tbh
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