What's the upside? Serious question.
"Today's announcement is a critical first step towards giving banks and credit card companies the tools they need to recognize dangerous firearm purchasing trends – like a domestic extremist building up an arsenal — and report them to law enforcement," said John Feinblatt, president of Everytown for Gun Safety, a gun control advocacy group, in a statement last week.
https://www.npr.org/2022/09/15/11230...erican-exrpess
Credit card companies aren't going to get an itemized receipt from the store. What's the upside?
Move in the right direction feelings
They can report large purchases to law enforcement. Law enforcement can then decide if they want to go ask the store for the itemized receipt. This isn't hard to figure out. Keep trying, nut.
So if you buy a grill and weight set at Academy, the ATF is going to go ask Academy for an itemized receipt?
Do you think that's what will happen?So if you buy a grill and weight set at Academy, the ATF is going to go ask Academy for an itemized receipt?
Do you think that won't happen? Be specific, yes or no?
No. Do you?
Ideally we would have a national registry of weapons so they wouldn't have to try and track illegal arms sales through backdoor means. Bull hypotheticals aside if a violent felon, problematically mentally ill person, or domestic abuser makes that type of purchase what is wrong with law enforcement making sure it is not a firearm.
What is so stupid abut this whole thing is that local conservatives are all out for ID and registration to vote, a much better defined cons utional right, but balk at the idea of a national registry for guns where there is unquestionably an issue with illegal sales.
There's a reason a national registry is outlawed. State registries are legal. You should push for that 1st.
Then you think it will happen? Yes or no.
This is another dumbed down take. The background check law says it cannot be used to create a registry but there is already a national registry for automatic weapons. It is not uncons utional as evidenced by said registry and all it takes is new legislation to change the status quo.
I just answered this question. What's wrong with you?
Existing law does not indicate cons utionality, otherwise all laws are cons utional. We know that to not be the case.
Regardless, legislation is all that is needed to do a whole heap of that won't get done. "all it takes"
This doesn't even begin to address the efficacy of a registry. There are states with gun registries, do they rise above the statistical noise in efficacy?
Rate vs gun related homicides rate
NY 5 gun related homicides - requires gun registration
Mass 3 gun related homicides - neither requires nor prohibits gun registration
Nah
Last edited by DMC; 09-16-2022 at 11:38 PM.
Last edited by DMC; 5 Minutes Ago at 10:38 PM.
Chuncko bloviating and editing like a thirsty mother er.
PS
State------------------Population
Massachusetts-------7,126,375
New York------------20,365,879
"rate"
You stupid mother er
I even said it twice
rEmF-man
If you knew better, you would have kept your mouth shut."rate"
You stupid mother er
I even said it twice
rEmF-man
New York has almost three times the population of Massachusetts.
Per capita, New York’s gun related homicide rate is way less than Massachusetts’, idiot.
Go sulk some more.
This site even says the gun homicide rates in both states are the same, so your stats are .
https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...apita-by-state
You said that federal gun registries were illegal. You were wrong.Existing law does not indicate cons utionality, otherwise all laws are cons utional. We know that to not be the case.
Regardless, legislation is all that is needed to do a whole heap of that won't get done. "all it takes"
This doesn't even begin to address the efficacy of a registry. There are states with gun registries, do they rise above the statistical noise in efficacy?
Rate vs gun related homicides rate
NY 5 gun related homicides - requires gun registration
Mass 3 gun related homicides - neither requires nor prohibits gun registration
Nah
Low IQ
It won't happen. You good now? Do you think it will happen?
FOPA
Amends the rulemaking authority of the Secretary to provide that no regulation may require: (1) the transfer of records required under this Act to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State; or (2) the establishment of any system of registration of firearms, firearm owners, or firearm transactions. Requires a 90-day public comment period for proposed regulations.
NFA weapons are grandfathered exceptions to the machine gun ban. There have been no new subguns since 1986 added to this "registry". The ATF only tracks transfers of grandfathered auto-sears. In each instance the registration is as an exception. So for a national registry to exist for non-NFA weapons, guns would first have to be banned, then exceptions made on a case by case basis. This is where the registry would make sense.
So unless you want to say the FOPA doesn't prohibit the establishment of a national firearm registry, then you're just being obtuse. Pretty sure your gripe about firearms isn't that too many unregistered subguns exist, plus you said a national registry should exist, so if you think one already exists, wtf are you talking about?
This is why I have to dumb down.
Last edited by DMC; 09-17-2022 at 10:08 AM.
Without itemized receipts, any large purchase would have to flag. Unless the only large purchase you can imagine is firearms, then there would be a lot of false positives. You'd need another system that doesn't rely solely on the value of the purchase unless you want to tie up resources chasing down lawn furniture and fishing gear.
It won't happen. You good now? Do you think it will happen?
Last edited by DMC; 09-17-2022 at 10:11 AM.
Would it take more than a bill passed by congress to create a national registry?
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