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    Tangent, but discloses the current off the rails 2A jurisprudence




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    Usually gypsy cops move away from the places where they got in trouble.

    Brain dead move by Uvalde ISD police.

    A police officer who was hired by the Uvalde school district despite being under investigation for her conduct during the school massacre while with the Texas Department of Public Safety has now been fired.


    The school district said in a letter Thursday that Crimson Elizondo had been fired effective immediately. The decision to hire Elizondo drew outrage from parents' of victims of the May 24 school shooting that killed 21 people, including 19 elementary school students.
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-troo...ry?id=91080756


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    Lol wut? Why would you apply to work in the area where you are being investigated for your role in fleeing from the gunman?

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    Lol wut? Why would you apply to work in the area where you are being investigated for your role in fleeing from the gunman?
    Vanity. En lement. Stupidity.

    They really thought they could do it, no one ever stopped them before, I bet.
    Last edited by Winehole23; 10-13-2022 at 02:40 AM. Reason: Stupidity can't be ruled out.

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    Sure looks like DPS covered its ass.

    Visual evidence from the scene, while limited, indicates the problem was not simply one incompetent school police chief, or officers who knew better, but failed to take action. The available footage shows high-ranking officers, experienced state troopers, police academy instructors — even federal SWAT specialists — came to the same conclusions and were detoured by the same delays the school police chief has been condemned for causing.

    Three days after the shooting, D.P.S.’s director, Steven McCraw, announced his investigative team had identified why the police took 77 minutes to kill the gunman. Mr. McCraw said every officer was trained to immediately neutralize active shooters, but they were hamstrung when the incident commander, Pete Arredondo, wrongly determined the gunman was a so-called “barricaded subject,” which calls for a slower, more deliberate response.

    Mr. McCraw was more pointed during a State Senate hearing in June.

    “The only thing stopping the hallway of dedicated officers from entering Room 111 and 112 was the on-scene commander who decided to place the lives of officers before the lives of children,”
    But claims by Mr. McCraw that Mr. Arredondo stymied 360 officers with flawed orders or misinformation are not supported by the available footage, which shows little evidence that commands were issued by the school chief, let alone widely communicated.

    The available footage shows the D.P.S. timeline — which Mr. McCraw told lawmakers was corroborated by “frame-by-frame” video analysis — miscast Mr. Arredondo’s role and omitted actions, and inaction, by other officers, especially D.P.S. troopers and federal agents, who were involved earlier or more centrally than it notes.

    Footage shows BORTAC, the Border Patrol’s elite tactical agents, took charge about halfway into the response, and learned right away that children were trapped inside with the gunman. But it took 37 minutes of planning, testing keys and readying equipment before BORTAC breached the classrooms.
    [/QUOTE]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/12/u...stigation.html










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    "we won't do anything to make your school safer, but we will help you ID your kid's dead body."


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    Criminal background checks? Too intrusive.

    Take your kid's DNA and fingerprints to identify them post mortem? All cool.

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    no wonder DPS threw Arredondo under the bus

    A Texas state police captain tried to delay a law enforcement team entering the classrooms to end the Robb Elementary massacre and is now among those under investigation after an account from someone at the scene that he ordered his officers to stay out of the school in the initial response to the shooting, sources tell CNN.


    CNN has obtained a new audio recording of Capt. Joel Betancourt ordering a strike team to wait, more than 70 minutes into the attack
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/20/us/te...urt/index.html

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    Betancourt's order was so off the wall some officers ignored it

    “I heard someone shout out, Capt. Betancourt said all DPS personnel need to be on perimeter, do no (sic) enter building,” one DPS lieutenant stated, after writing how he had driven from some 40 miles away at speeds of up to 130 mph to get to the scene.


    A DPS sergeant added in his memo: “As this was clearly against established training, we both decided to enter the building where the shooter was located.”

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    looks like Betancourt lied

    Betancourt, the most senior officer known to be being investigated over the failed law enforcement response, told investigators he had little to do with the operation at Robb Elementary until after the gunman was killed, sources close to the inquiry told CNN.

    The interviews from the immediate days after the event, described to CNN by several sources, offer the first direct accounts from the officers now being scrutinized by the inspector general.
    Betancourt told investigators he had a clear memory of being in Eagle Pass, Texas, with other officers when the first call of a shooting came in at about 11:50 a.m., he said, but it was unclear how major the situation was.
    At least two officers said it was Betancourt who alerted them to the ongoing attack at Robb Elementary, the sources familiar with the investigation told CNN.

    A sergeant said he had received a text about an “active shooter” incident from Betancourt at about 11:37 a.m., raising questions about Betancourt’s claim that he only became involved later.

    And Victor Escalon, the regional DPS director for the South Texas Region that includes Uvalde, said Betancourt had texted him at 12:09 p.m.. That text read: “Initial info one person possibly a teacher shot in head, one officer shot, kid has AK 47, CNU [specialist negotiator team] has been activated, suspect is barricaded. Troopers who are medics have been deployed. Drone team is on its way,” the sources said.

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    McCraw and other DPS leaders have refused to discuss the internal investigations or release information until the investigations are complete at the request of local District Attorney Christina Mitc Busbee. Her criminal investigation may take years and she has said she will charge anyone who has committed a crime at Robb Elementary, including law enforcement officers.

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    They had metal detectors.

    The doors to the school were locked.

    They had seven armed officers at the school.

    The shooter still got in and killed two people.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/24/u...-shooting.html

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    Texas Lege covering DPS's asses, signing NDA's and keeping the public in the dark.


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    Lege could have subpoenaed any docs DPS wanted to withhold, I guess they didn't like the optics of fighting DPS in court. As a bonus, Abbott and the GOP avoid the political damage of disclosing what went on with DPS that day.

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    This is authoritarian, banana republic type .

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    Texas Lege covering DPS's asses, signing NDA's and keeping the public in the dark.

    That's some bs. But a max fine of $1000 doesn't seem too steep either. Maybe one of them will violate it.

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    First responders impeded the medical response.




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    weak beer


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