yeah, i don't get the freak athlete obsession. of course, if you can find a giannis, that's a no-brainer but there are quite a few examples of so-called 'slower' players having huge success in the NBA.
and i'd be fine with procida at #25. he'd be a great stash pick.
yeah, i don't get the freak athlete obsession. of course, if you can find a giannis, that's a no-brainer but there are quite a few examples of so-called 'slower' players having huge success in the NBA.
me too. i have no interest in AJ and it does appear that the smith and terry interest is legit. and lol at the dramatic fall of baldwin. the dude was a pre-season mock draft lottery pick. now, he might even opt to go back to college.
Keegan Murray gives me some Thomas Robinson vibes, and that gives me pause
Thats kinda how I feel about Sochan and Eason lol big wings in college are hard to evaluate tbh because they should dominate with the them being bigger than others
Like Keegan, Thomas Robinson won or was a finalist for all the college awards, heavily relied on his post game, and also left as a junior. Seemed like solid pick at 5 in the Anthony Davis draft. And he just couldn’t put it together in the pros.
I'm trying to make sense of this. You want to draft a PG who is a defensive player and who can guard point guards but not switchable, but it would allow us to hid DJM on defense, because...he's a bad defensive player? Am I misinterpreting you?
These are good things to consider. As well for Johnny Davis, whom I like as a pick in the hopes that he translates, but he's another one who might not.
Murray is a good defender but more valuable as the offensive leader. A defensive guard lets him conserve energy, remember this team collapsing late in games? If murray is a star this helps. Not sure if chinook wants to use pick 9 on such player, but any of the final 3 would be fine.
Tre jones is weird. He's not good enough to plan as a starter, but good enough to require a mid level contract. Its really up to him to decide if he's a starter in this league.
There's a pretty huge gap in terms of advanced & other stats.
Keegan Murray:
ORtg: 134.6
DRtg: 96.8
Net rating: +37.8
BPM: 15.7 (Best on his team. Second best was Kris Murray at +9.1)
2pt%: 62.1%
3pt FGM: 66
Thomas Robinson:
ORtg: 109.8
DRtg: 84.6
Net rating: +25.2
BPM: 8.8 (Second best on team. #1 was Jeff Withey at +11.5)
2pt%: 50.5%
3pts FGM: 7
Could be. But the issue with Robinson was that he had no real basketball skills nor basketball IQ. He overpowered with strength and athleticism. He could not shoot. Keegan seems to understand the game much better and is an outside shooter.
I’m getting the same vibes that Manu will be working even more with the development of these youngsters. Arguably he had a strong influence on Lonnie getting more confident on his game and being more assertive. While Spurs’ fallout on Samanic could have Manu putting more insights on the prospects’ maturity and character.
That said, I’m leaning on Sochan at 9. He has that Diaw-esque playmaking at PF position and the needed height and defense at that 4 position. Of course if Keegan is available, he’s the pick. Procida could be a good stash-candidate at 25 (with Manu inquiring about his contracts). I’m hoping they offer that 20th with Poeltl to get Mark Williams for that on-man defense. And at the end of the day, I want them to address the lack of a go-to scorer, if through this draft or FA. I like Davis a lot on this draft. 20 and 25 to get him? There’s just too many creative ways on this draft. It’s exciting what Spurs “savvy” GM would do.
Thomas Robinson was better in advanced defensive stats. Everywhere else Keegan is better, usually far, far better. Some of his stats are kind of unbelievable, to be honest. Also, one thing that popped out is that Keegan only had 1.3 turnovers and 2.1 fouls per 36 minutes, which seems absurd considering his offensive load.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...homas-robinson
Murray does need to be hidden against the best offensive guards. He's a good pick-pocket, but he's always struggled stopping guards from scoring on him. The team needs someone who can do that job so that Murray can do the things he's elite at on that end. Is DJM Forbes? No, obviously not. Is he good enough to be your shutdown cornerback? Not if the Spurs want to win games.
The Spurs need one-on-one defenders who can directly guard the best players. That's more important than being switchable. If some 6-6 guy can guard PGs at an elite level while also being able to check wings (think prime LDN), that's great. But they have enough connective tissue on defense with Murray, Vassell and Poeltl and a refreshing lack of liabilities for the most part. They need bones to give that tissue structure like they had back in 2017-2018. They need defensive specialists rather than another generalist
Except Keegan Murray was one of the best 3-point shooters in CBB last season, is a much better passer, and seems to have a higher bball IQ than Thomas ever did. Thomas was the better athlete, but they’re not that similar of players imo.
I don’t think Murray will ever be a star, but I predict him to be a very solid player at the next level.
Even if he’s there at 7 or 6 they should trade to grab him.
Amazing how Williams has climbed based on the combine.
I guess if he's the pick, just don't submit the wrong Jalen/Jaylin Williams name for Adam to announce.
That wingspan and standing reach makes him a lot bigger than his height. That's crazy.
So if they pick Jalen Williams, I'm assuming they see him as a SF, otherwise he would be the 2 guard and Keldon finally slides down to the SF position. Either way with Jalen (or Mathurin or Davis), there will be some juggling/trading that would need to happen at some point, I imagine. Vassell needs minutes and I'm sure they'd want to keep feeding Primo.
In this scenario, I'm thinking aloud here, then perhaps you definitely don't resign Lonnie Walker, and then you try to package Josh Richardson along with some of the later picks to see what that can get you, ideally at power forward?
I am not sure we can’t get him latter on he is good offense but on defense he kinda gets beat easily by his man and he has a hard time fighting under screens.
The Spurs are going to draft Whodat Whatdafuk and you will like it!
That would be hilarious.
The Astros slugger Yordan Alvarez was apparently traded by the Dodgers because they thought they were trading away a different (Yadier?) Alvarez.
Marshon vs Dillon Brooks
Almost losing Keldon at 29 because Samanic mesmerized scouts at the Combine
You son ofa I'm in!
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