Spurs Big Board 3.0: The Post-Combine Update

[Dejounte]

Either that kid is a Spurs fan or he’s wearing Spurs attire because the guy next to him, presumably his dad, is a Spurs staffer. Can anyone identify who that guy is? timvp ? This is at the same time the Jalen Williams video is happening.

[Ariel]

To this day, my board is:
9) Mathurin / Dyson Daniels / Sochan (whichever is available @ 9)
20/25) Tari Eason / Ousmane Dieng / Jalen Williams / Blake Wesley / Nikola Jovic / EJ Liddell
38) Procida / Minott / Kamagate / Koloko / PBJ / Terquavion Smith (Procida / Minott / Kamagate may be moved up to the 25 range if necessary)
I realize a lot of the guys are likely to have been picked by the pick numbers. That's intentional, meaning take whomever falls to the range out of those guys.
Of course we won't take on 4 rookies, but 2 for sure and I'm betting on 3... maybe 3 + 1 international. Also you'd have to make a balance between them, so avoid any combination that has too many redundant guys.
Ideally I'm hoping for some combination like these (among others):
Sochan + Jalen Williams + Blake Wesley + Procida (draft & stash)
Dyson Daniels + Blake Wesley + Minott + Kamagate (draft & stash)
don't reach and take whatever opportunity the board offers.

[timvp]

Is that a Spurs logo?

[Dejounte]

It could be a slanted “LA”

[offset formation]

It could be a slanted “LA”

Could be? That's 1,000% a LA Clipper logo from their street series

[Chinook]

Pick 20 & 25, anything goes tbh lol I wouldn’t look at any projected draft positions or anything like that to determine who the spurs might draft

Yeah. People don't appreciate the power of those picks. Outside of the last few years, a pick at 20 or 25 was all Spurs fans had to look forward to. Every hope we placed in a young player for more than a decade came from guys drafted at or after those slots. So if we're supposed to think Murray and Johnson were such important picks, why are people so keen on getting rid of the chance to draft not just one of those guys, but two ... in addition to actually playing in the top-10 for the first time since Duncan? There's some real house money with those picks. Any of these guys we're talking about would have been the bee's knees to draft just five years ago. That was on a contending roster. On a team that lacks so much talent, dismissing first-round picks feels absurd.

If you trust the Spurs drafting and development team, trust that they went through the trouble of acquire extra firsts in this draft for a reason. If they didn't see talent in the 20s, they would not have made such an effort to get picks in that range in the first place.

[FutureMan]

If the Spurs don’t select Mathurin, Daniels, or Sochan in that order then I don’t even know what they are doing anymore haha

[BackHome]

Yeah. People don't appreciate the power of those picks. Outside of the last few years, a pick at 20 or 25 was all Spurs fans had to look forward to. Every hope we placed in a young player for more than a decade came from guys drafted at or after those slots. So if we're supposed to think Murray and Johnson were such important picks, why are people so keen on getting rid of the chance to draft not just one of those guys, but two ... in addition to actually playing in the top-10 for the first time since Duncan? There's some real house money with those picks. Any of these guys we're talking about would have been the bee's knees to draft just five years ago. That was on a contending roster. On a team that lacks so much talent, dismissing first-round picks feels absurd.

If you trust the Spurs drafting and development team, trust that they went through the trouble of acquire extra firsts in this draft for a reason. If they didn't see talent in the 20s, they would not have made such an effort to get picks in that range in the first place.

I totally agree this draft is not Star heavy but it is a lot deeper then people think and I think it’s a pretty good chance we could get two or even three starters from this draft - It may take a year or two for that happen but lots of talented players in the 20 to 25 range and even in the second round around 38 still has some decent talent.

[Uriel]

FWIW, I tried putting Banchero on the Spurs in NBA 2K22 and simulating a game with him in the starting lineup. It was a lot of fun making that pipe dream a reality, at least virtually.

[duncan2150]

Yeah. People don't appreciate the power of those picks. Outside of the last few years, a pick at 20 or 25 was all Spurs fans had to look forward to. Every hope we placed in a young player for more than a decade came from guys drafted at or after those slots. So if we're supposed to think Murray and Johnson were such important picks, why are people so keen on getting rid of the chance to draft not just one of those guys, but two ... in addition to actually playing in the top-10 for the first time since Duncan? There's some real house money with those picks. Any of these guys we're talking about would have been the bee's knees to draft just five years ago. That was on a contending roster. On a team that lacks so much talent, dismissing first-round picks feels absurd.

If you trust the Spurs drafting and development team, trust that they went through the trouble of acquire extra firsts in this draft for a reason. If they didn't see talent in the 20s, they would not have made such an effort to get picks in that range in the first place.

totally with this, a draft pick is golden for the spurs that's why i'm not on " they will not draft four guys". Imo they could stash one but if they don't have some good offers, i can see them drafting 4 guys.

[Dejounte]

After watching Josh Minott quite a bit, I think his best comps are

Shades of:
Jaxson Hayes
Onyeka Okongwu
(Early) Bobby Portis
Jaden McDaniels (defense-only)

Twin towers of Val + Jaxson Hayes killed us and other teams this past season.

[duncan2150]

After watching Josh Minott quite a bit, I think his best comps are

Shades of:
Jaxson Hayes
Onyeka Okongwu
(Early) Bobby Portis
Jaden McDaniels (defense-only)

Twin towers of Val + Jaxson Hayes killed us and other teams this past season.

You think he's a inside guy ? i see him more like a SF. Don't get the comparaisons but maybe you can tell us why Hayes or Okongwu after watching him more.

[Dejounte]

You think he's a inside guy ? i see him more like a SF. Don't get the comparaisons but maybe you can tell us why Hayes or Okongwu after watching him more.

Because he made like 0 shots away from the rim

[mo7888]

You think he's a inside guy ? i see him more like a SF. Don't get the comparaisons but maybe you can tell us why Hayes or Okongwu after watching him more.

My 2 cents..

He's either a 4 or small ball 5... his shot wasn't good last season and if he can't shoot he slides over to the small ball 5 spot... if he can develop a good outside shot he'll slot into the 4 position and could have a pretty successful career there...it's a risk but, I think it's an acceptable risk with one of our last 2 picks.

[Dejounte]

My 2 cents..

He's either a 4 or small ball 5... his shot wasn't good last season and if he can't shoot he slides over to the small ball 5 spot... if he can develop a good outside shot he'll slot into the 4 position and could have a pretty successful career there...it's a risk but, I think it's an acceptable risk with one of our last 2 picks.

There are exceptions to the rule here. If Minott is more Jaxson Hayes than Zach Collins, then he can play 4. He’s quick on defense which compensates for his lack of shooting. Defense is more important for playing the 4, contrary to what most believe. It’s why Sengun is a 5, not a 4.

[Dejounte]

Also im not saying he will never develop an outside shot. Just saying he can play 4 without waiting to develop a shot

[Dejounte]

Pre injury Zach Collins is actually another good comp.

[Dejounte]

Minott is one of the best lob threats in the draft without being restricted to only playing C. He’s a very versatile defender.

[Dejounte]

That’s my one quip about Keegan Murray. While he’s an excellent scorer inside, he’s not a lob threat. He doesn’t add a vertical dimension to our offense.

[mo7888]

There are exceptions to the rule here. If Minott is more Jaxson Hayes than Zach Collins, then he can play 4. He’s quick on defense which compensates for his lack of shooting. Defense is more important for playing the 4, contrary to what most believe. It’s why Sengun is a 5, not a 4.

I believe he is more naturally a 4 if you're looking at who he'd defend. I don't think that's enough to project him as a full-time 4 though. If he's one dimensional then he will be fine in certain situations but to project him out as a starting caliber 4 in the future he'd either have to become a good shooter from deep or have an exceptional amount of playmaking ability that I just don't see in him.

Note: I'm not saying you're projecting him as a starting caliber 4.... I'm saying that if I'm going to project him as that kind of player then I need to see those things develop in his game.

[Dejounte]

I believe he is more naturally a 4 if you're looking at who he'd defend. I don't think that's enough to project him as a full-time 4 though. If he's one dimensional then he will be fine in certain situations but to project him out as a starting caliber 4 in the future he'd either have to become a good shooter from deep or have an exceptional amount of playmaking ability that I just don't see in him.

Note: I'm not saying you're projecting him as a starting caliber 4.... I'm saying that if I'm going to project him as that kind of player then I need to see those things develop in his game.

I am with you. For him to be drafted, I think the Spurs have to see a lot of growing potential as they usually go for homerun picks this late in the first round.

[Dejounte]

For the record, Minott was on Assistant Coach Johnson’s team during the Combine Scrimmages. And it was the same game Brent Barry and Manu were shown on the stream

Minott had 11 pts and 8 rebs

he has had two interviews with the Spurs

[TD 21]

Minott is a 4/3 defensively and a 5 offensively. He'd ideally be paired with a floor spacing rim protector.

Yeah. People don't appreciate the power of those picks. Outside of the last few years, a pick at 20 or 25 was all Spurs fans had to look forward to. Every hope we placed in a young player for more than a decade came from guys drafted at or after those slots. So if we're supposed to think Murray and Johnson were such important picks, why are people so keen on getting rid of the chance to draft not just one of those guys, but two ... in addition to actually playing in the top-10 for the first time since Duncan? There's some real house money with those picks. Any of these guys we're talking about would have been the bee's knees to draft just five years ago. That was on a contending roster. On a team that lacks so much talent, dismissing first-round picks feels absurd.

If you trust the Spurs drafting and development team, trust that they went through the trouble of acquire extra firsts in this draft for a reason. If they didn't see talent in the 20s, they would not have made such an effort to get picks in that range in the first place.

I'd probably (would have to see how the draft is playing out before determining) prefer to consolidate, but obviously they shouldn't do so just because, so that's fair.

Not necessarily. They could (and probably did) do so just to have a myriad of options.

[Dejounte]

To be anything more than a 5 offensively, the only skill a (currently) non-shooting player like Minott would have to deveiop is catch and shoot 3s. Because when you think about it, that’s the only skill Keegan has that allows him to play the 4 (on offense).

[scott]

To this day, my board is:
9) Mathurin / Dyson Daniels / Sochan (whichever is available @ 9)
20/25) Tari Eason / Ousmane Dieng / Jalen Williams / Blake Wesley / Nikola Jovic / EJ Liddell
38) Procida / Minott / Kamagate / Koloko / PBJ / Terquavion Smith (Procida / Minott / Kamagate may be moved up to the 25 range if necessary)
I realize a lot of the guys are likely to have been picked by the pick numbers. That's intentional, meaning take whomever falls to the range out of those guys.
Of course we won't take on 4 rookies, but 2 for sure and I'm betting on 3... maybe 3 + 1 international. Also you'd have to make a balance between them, so avoid any combination that has too many redundant guys.
Ideally I'm hoping for some combination like these (among others):
Sochan + Jalen Williams + Blake Wesley + Procida (draft & stash)
Dyson Daniels + Blake Wesley + Minott + Kamagate (draft & stash)
don't reach and take whatever opportunity the board offers.

This would be awesome but I'm really afraid of the possibility none of your guys at 20 (except for maybe Liddell or Jovic) are there for that pick, let alone 25. Might end up more like:

9) Mathurin/Daniels/Sochan/Eason/Dieng/Williams
20) Porcida/Minott/Smith/Liddell/Jovic
25) Porcida/Minott/Smith