Official 2022 NBA Free Agency Thread

[exstatic]

If the Spurs rent Westbrook for a year, a lot of narratives go out the window: "character matters," "we only get guys who are over themselves," "defensive effort matters," "we're not tanking, we're rebuilding with youth," etc., etc... It would change the entire perception of the Spurs as an en y for the foreseeable future.

They
Won’t
Keep
Him.

He has zero fit on this team for all the reasons you stated.

[Dverde]

10776943[/URL]]If the Spurs rent Westbrook for a year, a lot of narratives go out the window: "character matters," "we only get guys who are over themselves," "defensive effort matters," "we're not tanking, we're rebuilding with youth," etc., etc... It would change the entire perception of the Spurs as an en y for the foreseeable future.

Dude they are going to buy him out and he’ll go ring chasing like the others.

[mo7888]

If the Spurs rent Westbrook for a year, a lot of narratives go out the window: "character matters," "we only get guys who are over themselves," "defensive effort matters," "we're not tanking, we're rebuilding with youth," etc., etc... It would change the entire perception of the Spurs as an en y for the foreseeable future.

No it wouldn't because, like Galinari, we'd waive him immediately..

[John B]

Dude they are going to buy him out and he’ll go ring chasing like the others.

The thing is which championship team would want to sign cancer Westbrick?

[CGD]

Weird that we haven't heard anything serious about Ayton of Sexton. Outside of the KD/Irving saga, those seems to be the only "big" FA pieces left. The Miles Bridges things has probably had an underrated impact on this FA by shifting CHA's focus to other priorities.

I'm kinda eager to move on from the Irving things so the Spurs can get to other potential business like potentially moving Jakob before the season starts.

[Mugen]

Just one pick? Taking Westbrook off their hands is the Lakers only shot at ringing again with Lebron most likely. That's easily worth 2 picks to shade over their incompetence.

I have zero faith in BWrong's negotiation skills tbh

[Jordan Jackson]

People started given LBJ and Wade the side eye after the PED scandal at the Biogenesis clinic out of Florida.

They both look like Quagmire.

[Dex]

No it wouldn't because, like Galinari, we'd waive him immediately..

Real question, not even being sarcastic here...but waiving off Westbrook means the Spurs handing just him $47M to go away?

I get that it keeps his money off our books for cap purposes and keeps "both sides happy" and yada yada...but if I'm the ownership group, I'm balking at paying a guy nearly $50M just to leave, especially since they just paid Danilo like $10M to beat it.

[Ocotillo]

Real question, not even being sarcastic here...but waiving off Westbrook means the Spurs handing just him $47M to go away?

I get that it keeps his money off our books for cap purposes and keeps "both sides happy" and yada yada...but if I'm the ownership group, I'm balking at paying a guy nearly $50M just to leave, especially since they just paid Danilo like $10M to beat it.

Cap is still impacted

[Dex]

Cap is still impacted

Even for a waived player? I assumed once you waive them, they are off the books but...I guess that's why you shouldn't assume things

[exstatic]

Even for a waived player? I assumed once you waive them, they are off the books but...I guess that's why you shouldn't assume things

We can only recoup the roster spot. The money stays on the books until next July. I would hope we could negotiate a small buyout, like maybe $6+M that he’ll probably get for taxpayer MLE.

[Seventyniner]

Even for a waived player? I assumed once you waive them, they are off the books but...I guess that's why you shouldn't assume things

Yup, WB would stay on the cap sheet. Otherwise rich teams would waive highly paid fringe players all the time to create space and/or reduce luxury tax bills.

If he agrees to a buyout and signs with another team, I think the cap hit is reduced by whatever the new team pays him? Better to ask someone who actually knows.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I still don’t think the spurs will ever do business with the lakers while pop and rc are alive. Unless it’s an absolute fleecing

[Dverde]

I hope Westbrick can work out a deal like Bobby Bonilla and stretch out his pay out into yearly payments.

[John B]

We can only recoup the roster spot. The money stays on the books until next July. I would hope we could negotiate a small buyout, like maybe $6+M that he’ll probably get for taxpayer MLE.

Like paying Westbrick 40mil to go away... or 20 mil per each (maybe lottery) unprotected FRP's assuming Spurs get two. Yikes

[John B]

I still don’t think the spurs will ever do business with the lakers while pop and rc are alive. Unless it’s an absolute fleecing

And gift Lakers with Kyrie and possibly another ring for Fakers and Lebron's 5th tying Timmy... Yup.

[BatManu20]

[Ariel]

Real question, not even being sarcastic here...but waiving off Westbrook means the Spurs handing just him $47M to go away?

I get that it keeps his money off our books for cap purposes and keeps "both sides happy" and yada yada...but if I'm the ownership group, I'm balking at paying a guy nearly $50M just to leave, especially since they just paid Danilo like $10M to beat it.

So what, you're going to have him mow the lawn? It's a sunk cost, that money is not going back. If you buy a soup can and it comes with poison in it, you're going to drink it not to throw away what you spent on it?

[John B]

I rather it's the Spurs S&T with Poeltl, instead of this mad-idea of Westbrick buyout

[John B]

So what, you're going to have him mow the lawn? It's a sunk cost, that money is not going back. If you buy a soup can and it comes with poison in it, you're going to drink it not to throw away what you spent on it?

I'd had him put on the Coyote and compete in the mascot dunk contest tbh

[BatManu20]

I rather it's the Spurs S&T with Poeltl, instead of this mad-idea of Westbrick buyout

Not a huge fan of the Westbrick S&T idea either, but trading for Ayton at this point would makes no sense considering we just traded DJ, and based on the multiple reports out of PHX that they don’t want to max Ayton because his at ude and work ethic are ty, I’m confident the Spurs won’t trade for him anyways. We’re going all in on the tank imo.

[Mr. Body]

The market for Deandre Ayton sure is on fire! Indiana is like, "Sure, okay, whatever."

[cool cat]

47mil for 2 FRP and maybe 2 Swaps. Sounds steep.

[RC_Drunkford]

biggest risk of KD is him playing for 1-2 seasons and becoming disgruntled again, leaving another team in ashes

should've just went to the Spurs when he had the chance to do it. Would've had a healthy environment, but no guys want to play somewhere more appealing and then cry about locker room issues

Bronny might go undrafted or at the earliest, 2nd round. Prolly some team will hold him up to recruit LeBron or force the Lakers to give up something for Bronny. lol
Funny if Bronny get drafted by one of the least desirable team/city.

Anyways, he can always do that in teaming up with Bronny on his last or farewell season. I'm pretty sure LeBron is still eyeing for that 5th esp. with the Warriors (Curry) winning recently.
LeBron still probably has the say with the Lakers' FO and the Lakers can't afford to stand pat esp. with LeBron's age. They're also probably tempted to overtake Celtics with the most number of championships.

somebody will draft Bronny just to get LeBron. I really hope it's the Sacramento Kings. Would be hilarious

[rjv]

And gift Lakers with Kyrie and possibly another ring for Fakers and Lebron's 5th tying Timmy... Yup.

even if the lakers get kyrie, this is no guarantee that they win the le. i would argue that GS is just as good and the same for the celtics and bucks. not to mention that AD and Le are always hurt. best case scenario is that the spurs get some nice picks out of this and the lakers wind up without a le.