Dejounte Murray Trade Rumors: Will He Be Traded to the Atlanta Hawks?

[CGD]

I don't think that would work, I think their contracts would become guaranteed in order to trade them.

However, if the Spurs strike out on Ayton and Collins or just choose to burn space for picks, Spurs could just take Noel into space for draft pick

OKC fleeced a great future #1 for taking JaMychal Green off Denver

Damn, I thought part of the upshot of those deals was the trade and waive appeal.

[BatManu20]

DJ to Atlanta confirmed.

[objective]

Damn, I thought part of the upshot of those deals was the trade and waive appeal.

Only during the season I thought. There's a point at which they either have to be guaranteed to be traded and I don't know if that's the end of the regular season or until the league year rolls over into the agency.

I'm sure cbafaq has the clarification but don't have the time now to look

[Fazzlaa]

Wizards fan here

How about: Kyle Kuzma, Deni Avdija, 2025 1st rounder, 2027 1st rounder, 2029 1st rounder for Dejounte?

(Can include Rui to sweeten the deal)

[mo7888]

Wizards fan here

How about: Kyle Kuzma, Deni Avdija, 2025 1st rounder, 2027 1st rounder, 2029 1st rounder for Dejounte?

(Can include Rui to sweeten the deal)

No...an unprotected 1st in 2023...and 3 more 1sts with some protection on a sliding scale starts the conversation..

[Fazzlaa]

No...an unprotected 1st in 2023...and 3 more 1sts with some protection on a sliding scale starts the conversation..

The issue is, the 2023 1st rounder is owned by the Knicks right now (via OKC who got it from HOU) from the Wall-Westbrook trade. That pick is lottery protected and has protections until 2026 in which it becomes 2 seconds if it never conveys.

[objective]

Is 2029 eligible for teams to trade yet? Perusing the RealGM future picks owed page I didn't notice any picks past 2028. Maybe when July 1st comes?

[mo7888]

The issue is, the 2023 1st rounder is owned by the Knicks right now (via OKC who got it from HOU) from the Wall-Westbrook trade. That pick is lottery protected and has protections until 2026 in which it becomes 2 seconds if it never conveys.

Then I think the Wizards would need to find a 3rd team and open it up to provide thst unprotected 2023...

[CGD]

The issue is, the 2023 1st rounder is owned by the Knicks right now (via OKC who got it from HOU) from the Wall-Westbrook trade. That pick is lottery protected and has protections until 2026 in which it becomes 2 seconds if it never conveys.

Technically selections 15-30 are owned by the Knicks. I wonder if there is a way to convey the portion of the pick that conveys the 1-14 selection.

[CGD]

No...an unprotected 1st in 2023...and 3 more 1sts with some protection on a sliding scale starts the conversation..

Agree, we’d need unprotected 2023 FRP to start the convo. It’s why the Knicks and Wiz appeal.

[PhantomDashCam]

Holy Crap...

[PhantomDashCam]

^ Appears to be a hoax. Damn the small edit windows. Apologies guys.

[Degoat]

^Fake^ You had me for a second lol

[Mr. Body]

You've been banned from SpursTalk.

[CGD]

Lol, had me there for a sec.

The clear thing with all this: DJ has a robust as market.

[BatManu20]

Lmao the troll accounts get everyone at some point

[Excessive Egotist]

Wizards fan here

How about: Kyle Kuzma, Deni Avdija, 2025 1st rounder, 2027 1st rounder, 2029 1st rounder for Dejounte?

(Can include Rui to sweeten the deal)

Are these unprotected? Can we have Kispert instead of Avdija?

[exstatic]

So this is going to initially sound crazy, but:

Murray and Richardson to PHX for Paul, Cam Johnson, Shamet and two firsts

Then (technically simultaneously):

Paul and Poeltl to LAL for Westbrook and two firsts.

The Spurs get four first and Cam Johnson for their two best players and taking $10 Million in 2023-2024 salary.
Phoenix gets to re-sign Ayton and have their young core for cheaper
LAL gets to basically get the banana boat together

Then in the off-season, use the bit of cap space that remains to sign Jalen Smith to something like $42M/3 with only the first year guaranteed.

I initially thought the Spurs should then either waive/buyout Westbrook or send him home until a trade could be found. But then I realized that the resulting team would actually fit him.

Westbrook, Jones, Wesley
Vassell, Primo, Branham
Johnson, McDermott, Langford
Johnson, Sochan, Bates-Diop
Smith, Collins, Landale

Two-way: Wieskamp, Barrlow

That's actually a fast unit with excellent spacing and defensive ability. The Johnsons and Sochan would make for one of the best young forward rotations I can ever think of. Smith and Collins can both shoot from outside. I think that roster would actually play to Westbrook's strengths. I don't think Westbrook would have another MVP-caliber season, and I'm not sure that I'd want him to dominate the ball enough to find out. But he might perform well enough to get a team to give up value for him. I can't think of a starting PG that would be a better stop-gap. It's sad, because DeJounte himself might be perfect for that lineup. Maybe the Spurs could get Cam for Poeltl if Ayton walks? Johnson, Johnson and Jones are notable free agents after next season, but the Spurs might be able to get all or two of them on reasonable extensions this summer to allow them to go into the next off-season with cap space.

Weiskamp is on an NBA contract, and m pretty sure he’d rather be released than go back on a 2 way.

[exstatic]

My math using spotrac, keeping Tre and Jock, renouncing everyone else puts them at $90,935,863 and 14 players, which should be enough for Ayton if signed to an RFA deal at 25% of $122m.

Where is my math wrong?

Holds for our shiny new FRPs.

[objective]

Holds for our shiny new FRPs.

I included all of them

[Cardinal]

Jake Fischer says talks with Atlanta are ongoing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">San Antonio and Atlanta remain engaged on trade conversations regarding a larger deal centered around Dejounte Murray and John Collins, sources said. <br><br>We’ll get into all the trade and free agency scuttle with <a href="https://twitter.com/BigWos?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BigWos</a> tomorrow at 7:30pm ET on <a href="https://twitter.com/getcallin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@getcallin</a>:<a href="https://t.co/GgQWuQz9ud">https://t.co/GgQWuQz9ud</a></p>&mdash; Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) <a href="https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/1541215181656756228?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[objective]

Holds for our shiny new FRPs.

Chinook's numbers were off because he used deeks' numbers that had Samanic included

[mo7888]

Jake Fischer says talks with Atlanta are ongoing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">San Antonio and Atlanta remain engaged on trade conversations regarding a larger deal centered around Dejounte Murray and John Collins, sources said. <br><br>We’ll get into all the trade and free agency scuttle with <a href="https://twitter.com/BigWos?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BigWos</a> tomorrow at 7:30pm ET on <a href="https://twitter.com/getcallin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@getcallin</a>:<a href="https://t.co/GgQWuQz9ud">https://t.co/GgQWuQz9ud</a></p>&mdash; Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) <a href="https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/1541215181656756228?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's interesting....

[Ariel]

Jake Fischer says talks with Atlanta are ongoing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">San Antonio and Atlanta remain engaged on trade conversations regarding a larger deal centered around Dejounte Murray and John Collins, sources said. <br><br>We’ll get into all the trade and free agency scuttle with <a href="https://twitter.com/BigWos?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BigWos</a> tomorrow at 7:30pm ET on <a href="https://twitter.com/getcallin?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@getcallin</a>:<a href="https://t.co/GgQWuQz9ud">https://t.co/GgQWuQz9ud</a></p>&mdash; Jake Fischer (@JakeLFischer) <a href="https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/1541215181656756228?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/sta...15181656756228

[Chinook]

Weiskamp is on an NBA contract, and m pretty sure he’d rather be released than go back on a 2 way.

Pretty sure he's not. He got signed to a one-year deal after his conversion. He was only signed for one year anyway as far as I know, so he's still an RFA. I have to admit info on exactly his contracts and those of the other two-way guys were structured.