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    Jeremy sucks but this is more on Pop. He was already limited to begin with and pop completely destroyed his confidence. Old man can’t leave sooner enough.

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    Put Sochan back in his natural position and he will be fine.

    We can hopefully pick up a couple starters in this draft ( PG an SF) and suddenly we're winning games.

    And more depth will come in the following years.
    Fine at what though? Id get it if he was a legit 3/D prospect in the draft, but he wasnt. hes only now developing the 3pt shot. He has the smarts to eventually become one of those glue guy connector types, but they need to see how he reads the floor.

    Bottom line: I think they saw him as a high bbiq, high confidence, and eventual plug and play guy but that needed a lot of shaping. Theyre now shaping. Folks also forget there was an huge drop in clear talent at 9 where the spurs were picking in that draft (we were debating Johnny freaking Davis of that pick here!).

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    The guy’s 20 yrs old and on his 2nd year.. geez

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    Can’t take much more if this clown missing every layup and falling down everytime then not getting up and giving the team a 4v5 ez basket. Tried to shoot it in the clutch ��

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    Which scouts or otherwise Spurs personnel are considered most influential in the decision to take Sochan?

    President of Everything Spurs CIA Popped?
    Brian Wrong?
    Fred Jimenez team scout Texas area?

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    I'm pretty disappointed by Sochan's performance this year, but let's get some perspective; Sochan in his age 20 season is averaging basically the same numbers that Dejounte Murray was in his age 23 season. Jalen Johnson who everyone is raving about now was averaging 2 points per game in his age 20 season. Sochan's still 6 months younger than Brandon Miller, and Draymond Green was an unknown junior at Michigan State at age 20. If Sochan still sucks in 4 years then by all means kick him to the curb, but for now it's way to early to call him a bust. Development isn't linear and 2nd year regression is normal.

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    Why did we draft this guy again? He wasn't even a starter on the Balor team.

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    The guy’s 20 yrs old and on his 2nd year.. geez
    What does he do well?

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    Why did we draft this guy again? He wasn't even a starter on the Balor team.
    For the same reason they drafted Primo. Got a castoff from Detroit as the GM.

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    What does he do well?
    I don’t know man. I know Jeremy has improved his FT by 100% from last season, and now shooting 37% from 3pts. If anything, I think the PG experiment improved his overall skills. Now he’s back to his natural PG position, and I think that was by design, so let’s see. He’s athletic and he’s shown he’s a willing student of the game, he’s willing to do anything out there, a real teammate, and only good things will come from that. So I’m rooting for the guy. He’s only 20 yrs old, on his 2nd year. He’s still overthinking out there, maybe because of the experiment. I’m sure the game will slow down on him, will become instinctive.

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    I feel bad for sochan this year. He played well last year and clearly justified his draft position but this year he got thrown into a horrible situation. Fans come out like a pack of wolves tearing him apart. He actually fell in line to marching orders even though the marching orders were stupid. You can blame him all you want but I still think it’s PATFOs fault. He’s being out in a situation that highlights all his flaws and diminishes all his strengths.

    I’m still pretty confident that in a few years he will be a highly valuable starter level player on a contender type team.

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    Let's give Sochan more time to get back his confidence. Pop has destroyed his confidence by playing him at PG

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    They should never give up on him unless there is an upgrade on the roster. You need a top 5 pick these days to get a big wing 4 man.

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    I feel bad for sochan this year. He played well last year and clearly justified his draft position but this year he got thrown into a horrible situation. Fans come out like a pack of wolves tearing him apart. He actually fell in line to marching orders even though the marching orders were stupid. You can blame him all you want but I still think its PATFOs fault. Hes being out in a situation that highlights all his flaws and diminishes all his strengths.

    Im still pretty confident that in a few years he will be a highly valuable starter level player on a contender type team.
    His defense has been horrible whether playing PG or PF and he's so limited offensively it's hard to see what use he is if he can't be a defensive ace. What exactly are this guy's strengths and what makes you think he's someone who could be a high-end starter on a contender?

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    If anything, I think the PG experiment improved his overall skills.
    bruh

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    I dont know man. I know Jeremy has improved his FT by 100% from last season, and now shooting 37% from 3pts. If anything, I think the PG experiment improved his overall skills. Now hes back to his natural PG position, and I think that was by design, so lets see. Hes athletic and hes shown hes a willing student of the game, hes willing to do anything out there, a real teammate, and only good things will come from that. So Im rooting for the guy. Hes only 20 yrs old, on his 2nd year. Hes still overthinking out there, maybe because of the experiment. Im sure the game will slow down on him, will become instinctive.
    That three point shot looked awful last night and he's riding small sample size and a hot start on his three point shooting. He's not willing to play defense and I'm a little tired of Pop's a moron being used to excuse how terrible Sochan is. Pop being re ed and having had the game pass him by doesn't stop Vassell or Tre Jones from being quality defensive players.

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    Yeah, Sochan looked pretty bad last night. Awful shooting, and if you didnt tell me I would not have even thought he was in the game. That is how much of a non factor he was.

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    Flat feet

    Bad hands

    Zero vertical

    No shot

    No periferal vision

    Lazy

    Seems bipolar

    I have doubts that he could even be a decent janitor tbqh

    He will be living in his car by 2027. Reminds me of that player that ed Lebron's mom but with ZERO basketball skills. At least that wigger could ball. Smh

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    I still absolutely despise BWrong for not getting Tari Eason there. I remember the day we drafted this bum, the usual sniffers on social media were saying we got the steal of the draft and that he was the best defender among his peers. Hes not even average on that end on a good day.

    In an ideal world, were trotting out a top 5 defense this year consisting of:

    Wemby
    Bates Diop
    Eason
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    Jones

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    Flat feet

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    Lazy

    Seems bipolar

    I have doubts that he could even be a decent janitor tbqh

    He will be living in his car by 2027. Reminds me of that player that ed Lebron's mom but with ZERO basketball skills. At least that wigger could ball. Smh
    Delonte West lol

    Hes delonte West with no basketball skills

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    Watching Sochan's highlights coming into the draft I didn't see the lateral quickness, jumping ability and athleticism. Also he was not a very good shooter from the perimeter or even free throw line so what was going to be his upside on the offensive end.
    He was also coming off the bench at Baylor. Why was that? Not someone I wanted the Spurs to burn a top 10 pick on. There was talk about Jalen Duren, Tari Eason, Jalen Williams for that pick.

    I wanted the spurs to trade up a little to get Sharpe and if they couldn't do that then draft Duren.

    Rodman was a clown and loser when he was in San Antonio. It would be better he would just be forgotten he was a spur instead of being compared to Sochan because of the colored hair.

    Sochan will go down and be best remembered for his colored hair and not his game.

    I didn't see why so many at Spurstalk wanted Sochan. When polled at Spurstalk Sochan was the one most voted on.
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    People need to ease up on Sochan. He is a second year player and is just 20 years old. Let's give him a full three years to see if he improves. He has raw talent and athleticism. Did playing point guard mess with his confidence? Maybe. But the answer to helping him get his confidence back is not to call him a bust when he has played for less than a 1.5 seasons of NBA basketball. He should shoot and the more he shoots, the more opportunities he will have to figure it out and right the ship. His defense runs hot and cold, but that could be said of the entire team except Wemby, who is so physically gifted that he does not have the same learning curve as a normal player.

    He looked good his rookie year, and I think he played a little more than half of his rookie season and now he's less than halfway through his 2nd year. That comes to about a season of experience. He has had good moments this year. Let's see what he turns into and judge by that if he fits on this team or not.
    I don't see tbe athleticism.

    What 'talents' do you see? Not a shooter, not a defender, can handle a little bit, can pass a little bit...

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    His defense has been horrible whether playing PG or PF and he's so limited offensively it's hard to see what use he is if he can't be a defensive ace. What exactly are this guy's strengths and what makes you think he's someone who could be a high-end starter on a contender?
    His defense wasn’t this bad last year. I’m. It sure what happened. He has a combination of speed and strength that should allow him for be at least decent as a defender. His penetration is also significantly worse this year.

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    We shouldn’t give up on Jeremy just yet, but only because he’s shown flashes of what he could be…I say if by next year we don’t see a major step forward then you part ways

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    His defense has been horrible whether playing PG or PF and he's so limited offensively it's hard to see what use he is if he can't be a defensive ace. What exactly are this guy's strengths and what makes you think he's someone who could be a high-end starter on a contender?
    evne when he was nominally the PG on offense, he wasn't really defending PGs other than Luka, who isnt really a typical PG anyway. usually vassell was defending PGs during that time

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