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All they have to do is look back. The Spurs took the Big 3 in 4 championships with them making sacrifices. San Antonio is NOT a big market who afford paying luxury taxes. IF they are committed and believe that PATFO is trying to build a championship team, which unequivocally they are, then they know what to expect. They will get only what the team can afford to keep a compe ive team. IF DJ feels the same commitment, then he too should take a paycut. I don’t blame him if he doesn’t and if he seeks greener pasture. But knowing what Spurs stand for in years and the championships it brought with its ways, should not leave anything in doubt what to expect.
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I don’t see DJ as a Brian Wright type player, at least as far as the profile of players we’ve brought in after Luka, which seems to be 100% Wright. That doesn’t mean they have to dump him, but it does make me wonder about what type of personality they’re trying to construct. I don’t see the FO ever fully trusting DJ enough to pull him into their inner circle decision making process, like they did with prior Spurs leaders, as far as I know, at least. The problem with this is that the more DJ gets dangled like this, then that by itself could cause a problem. I see DJ taking this personally. But these are just guesses.
How much good money do you think DJ is worth vs how much good money do you think DJ feels he is worth? If there’s a big disparity there, then the Spurs are ed in two years if they don’t move him now.
Betting on the Lottery is not a guarantee either. Look at the Rockets, Okc, they have top 5 picks in a row . Will they be better then Spurs this year and the next 2-3 years ? i'm really not sure and even if their core reach their potentials, will they be contenders ? same answer.
If i'm the Spurs i will go with this team, trying to go after a good FA this summer and then if that's not good i could deal some players by february.
I do not think there's any danger of burning bridges with the players, or jeopardizing the future as a result of trading Dejounte, as long as the situation is being properly handled internally. For all we know, he's in the loop, in fact he's been reportedly in touch with potential trade partners and open to the deal. He's aware this is a business, and if the Spurs are on a different timeline than him, any player with a half functioning brain should be able to understand that, as long as we're not going behind his back like it happened to Blake Griffin on the Clippers, Haliburton in Sacramento, or even DDR in Toronto. If he's sent to a contending team with the understanding they'll max him out when the time comes and he's ok'd the deal, if anything the young players will welcome the shift to a full on rebuilding & development phase, where they'll receive more opportunities. If there's one thing that doesn't really concern me, is that the Spurs seem to be aware of that aspect and handling it well.
DJ has said himself that he takes predraft prospects to dinner. That is just one example of how he’s part of the decision making process.
Bold prediction: They will not trade Murray.
This kind of stuff happens every year, just like the Spurs are tied to every free agent ever. Don’t know why we are always on the list of “interested teams,” but the % of times this stuff ever happens is like 5%.
happens is like 5%.[/QUOTE]
But this time the Spurs are saying, they will take a Jrue package type of haul. I think that’s saying yes will move him for the right price.
You push them out as far into the future as you can, and hope for the best. When AD was traded, I’m guessing no one saw the 2022 LAL pick swap as anything, but it turned into the #8 pick this year.
The thing is, the return isn’t going to get better. If we wait a year, it might only be 2 FRPs instead of 4.
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Interesting. Good info. That complicates the situation more, and makes me think then that they are openly communicating with him through this process. This feels like another new era; I don’t recall these types of rumors like this exactly before, only because we had foundational players.
On a tangent: the Pop retirement decision is another interesting factor. To flip it around, maybe Dejounte doesn’t want to play for a new coach in SA?
Thank God the Twitterverse is picking up more traffic than the one-side ATL perspective. That's a tired narrative that lacks significant detail.
This team is stuck in concrete if they max DJ without better max players to put alongside him. Draft pick don't 'automatically' make the team better but they do give us a better chance of being better than going forward with DJ as your best player on a max deal.
People can't expect the Spurs to operate the same as they did in the past couple of decades because tehre is no Robinson and there is no Duncan. Thats the bottom line.
Show me the FA or even the obtainable player we can add to this roster that's better than DJ. Then show me the 2nd player we can add thats better than DJ that we can add because that's what it will take to compete. If there's a realistic path to obtaining that I'm all for it....I just don't see it and not one person on this board has laid out a realistic path to achieve that.
Jesus Christ I feel like people can't read.
i mean yeah, if we get 3 firsts + 2 swaps + 2 seconds + okongwu thats quite the king's ransom. i dont see them giving up that much tbh
I don't think they care about the seconds that much. They have more. I think they'd give up the firsts easily but might want more protections on the 2025 pick. Their natural 2023 pick is non-negotiable, and I think they know that, and as of now the Charlotte pick is heavily protected. The swaps are a potential sticking point, and I could see the Spurs relenting on the one in 2026.
If any of this is true, it just makes the DeRozan/Aldridge Mid Range Era all the more frustrating... I wanted a proactive aggressive approach and restart then, knowing that the post Kawhi team wasn't capable of winning a chip, but the FO stuck with them both for too long in my opinion. It was clear in 2019 that a 29 yr old DeRozan and a 33 yr old Aldridge weren't the answer, and now here we are in 2022 still hoping the assets from the DeRozan trade add up to something significant before 2026. There is some bad luck involved here, I'll give that to the Spurs. They did a good job of clearing space for this off season, but unfortunately there just aren't any big impact FAs to go after.
And I feel like some people are caught up in their emotions without the ability to evaluate rationally....so here we are....
It will be interesting to see what the Spurs have planned for free agency. Its hard to say you're going to be able to convince a big FA that you want them to come if you're also trying to sell your biggest star currently. Perhaps the plan is to rent out capspace for picks or assets. But it seems to me the chances of a big Ayton or Levine deal have to have gone down with this news.
Who is reacting emotionally? LMFAO
If the Spurs are moving Murray before he costs, it's pretty clear Lavine or Ayton were ever seriously considered.
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