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    Doug McDermott is coaching the Omaha Blue Crew.
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    If the Thompson twins can work on there 3 point percentage that is going to put them in top 5 or top 10 range, depending how they do.
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    Totally agree - I think right now you got 3 legit NBA Franchise players in this draft.

    1. Wem - Center
    2. Henderson - PG
    3.G.C. Jackson - "He would be crazy not to come out early" PF - Plus watched his interviews he screams Spurs player

    As long as we get one of these 3 players I am confident we "Could" have one of our Franchise players..
    Agree. I'd be ok with anywhere in the Top 3. Its not like its VW or bust.
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    Overtime elite plays against trash compe ion most games. If they weren’t afraid to show out, they’d play with the ignite, against 2 ways and draft picks on assignment.
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    Totally agree - I think right now you got 3 legit NBA Franchise players in this draft.

    1. Wem - Center
    2. Henderson - PG
    3.G.C. Jackson - "He would be crazy not to come out early" PF - Plus watched his interviews he screams Spurs player

    As long as we get one of these 3 players I am confident we "Could" have one of our Franchise players..
    I wonder what made Jackson de-commit from UNC.
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    Yeah, I was suprised as in a interview he was very excited to be going to UNC - the kid is very smart but in the end it probably comes down to $ and being put in a position where he can go into the draft in 2023.
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    If we finish bottom 3, we get 14% of getting number one. But what are the chances of staying in the top 3?
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    If we finish bottom 3, we get 14% of getting number one. But what are the chances of staying in the top 3?
    1) 14% top pick | 40.1% top 3 | 100% top 5
    2) 14% top pick | 40.1% top 3 | 80% top 5
    3) 14% top pick | 40.1% top 3 | 66.9% top 5
    4) 12.5% top pick | 36.6% top 3 | 55.3% top 5
    5) 10.5% top pick | 31.6% top 3 | 44.3% top 5 (possible to drop all the way to #9)

    Most people I read who are talking about going for absolute worst record... it's not about getting the best odds for #1 overall pick. It's getting 100% chance for top 5.
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    Thanks for this, lots of exciting talent. Nothing on Jackson here, who I’ve seen some folks mention. Bailey looked least impressive of those prospects though - his clips just looked like a good player in a red game where he is way better than everyone else but not that impressive
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    1) 14% top pick | 40.1% top 3 | 100% top 5
    2) 14% top pick | 40.1% top 3 | 80% top 5
    3) 14% top pick | 40.1% top 3 | 66.9% top 5
    4) 12.5% top pick | 36.6% top 3 | 55.3% top 5
    5) 10.5% top pick | 31.6% top 3 | 44.3% top 5 (possible to drop all the way to #9)

    Most people I read who are talking about going for absolute worst record... it's not about getting the best odds for #1 overall pick. It's getting 100% chance for top 5.
    I mostly agree, but I'd say it's both. If the FO is 100% committed to developing youngsters under a "winning culture", then the level of "suck ude" required is probably more than they can handle, as bottom teams are usually poorly constructed, coached, and dysfunctional all around, and that is not going to happen with Pop at the helm.
    Bottom 3 is also likely out of reach, considering what teams like Houston, Charlotte and the Lakers are showing. I think Detroit and Orlando will improve their record as the season progresses but we should still be better than them, and then there's a bunch of teams like Indiana, OKC, Washington, Brooklyn, Sacramento that could round up the bottom 10.
    So given where we stand, best case scenario at this point would be continue to push for a couple of months, and pump up our vets trade value and capitalize on it before the trade deadline. And from then on, soft tank our way into a bottom 4-6 position that, while suboptimal, still gives us decent chances at a top talent. That's why I'm hoping for.
    If we end up with a top talent and we add a few good vets in free agency, that should be the beginning our rise towards contention.
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    1) 14% top pick | 40.1% top 3 | 100% top 5
    2) 14% top pick | 40.1% top 3 | 80% top 5
    3) 14% top pick | 40.1% top 3 | 66.9% top 5
    4) 12.5% top pick | 36.6% top 3 | 55.3% top 5
    5) 10.5% top pick | 31.6% top 3 | 44.3% top 5 (possible to drop all the way to #9)

    Most people I read who are talking about going for absolute worst record... it's not about getting the best odds for #1 overall pick. It's getting 100% chance for top 5.
    What you’re not showing is as the worst team that your HIGHEST ODDS are for #5, 48%. Top 5 doesn’t mean in a 2 franchise player draft.
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    I'm leaning towards FO taking Scoot over Wemby... with Spurs' history with injuries, Wemby's gonna be a bust in SA
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    I mostly agree, but I'd say it's both. If the FO is 100% committed to developing youngsters under a "winning culture", then the level of "suck ude" required is probably more than they can handle, as bottom teams are usually poorly constructed, coached, and dysfunctional all around, and that is not going to happen with Pop at the helm.
    Bottom 3 is also likely out of reach, considering what teams like Houston, Charlotte and the Lakers are showing. I think Detroit and Orlando will improve their record as the season progresses but we should still be better than them, and then there's a bunch of teams like Indiana, OKC, Washington, Brooklyn, Sacramento that could round up the bottom 10.
    So given where we stand, best case scenario at this point would be continue to push for a couple of months, and pump up our vets trade value and capitalize on it before the trade deadline. And from then on, soft tank our way into a bottom 4-6 position that, while suboptimal, still gives us decent chances at a top talent. That's why I'm hoping for.
    If we end up with a top talent and we add a few good vets in free agency, that should be the beginning our rise towards contention.
    Obviously things have changed since I posted that. But it IS doable to get as close to the top pick as possible while still developing youngsters. You go full strength against the best teams (if they are at full strength)... and you sit 1-2 starters against the worst teams (they are the ones that you need to force a win onto them).

    And I agree, you should never have them (each individual player) play at less than 100% when they are suited up.
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    What you’re not showing is as the worst team that your HIGHEST ODDS are for #5, 48%. Top 5 doesn’t mean in a 2 franchise player draft.
    And the highest odds for the second best team is for #5, 28%... and their second highest odds are for #6, 20%.
    The third and fourth worst teams' highest odds are for pick #6.

    It's not like I was hiding that stat. The "highest odds" stat still shows the need for going for worst record.

    2007 was a "2 franchise player" draft that included Al Horford, Mike Conley and Jeff Green in the top 5. I'd rather have any of them than Yi Jianlian who went 6th.

    I will take ANY increase to the lottery odds that doesn't hurt the current team.
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    And the highest odds for the second best team is for #5, 28%... and their second highest odds are for #6, 20%.
    The third and fourth worst teams' highest odds are for pick #6.

    It's not like I was hiding that stat. The "highest odds" stat still shows the need for going for worst record.

    2007 was a "2 franchise player" draft that included Al Horford, Mike Conley and Jeff Green in the top 5. I'd rather have any of them than Yi Jianlian who went 6th.

    I will take ANY increase to the lottery odds that doesn't hurt the current team.
    If we pull a player who has Jeff Greens career path in the top 5, itís a fail. ProbablyHorford, too.
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    damn I remember Yi Jianlian haha
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    If he keeps playing like this he will go in top 5
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    And the highest odds for the second best team is for #5, 28%... and their second highest odds are for #6, 20%.
    The third and fourth worst teams' highest odds are for pick #6.

    It's not like I was hiding that stat. The "highest odds" stat still shows the need for going for worst record.

    2007 was a "2 franchise player" draft that included Al Horford, Mike Conley and Jeff Green in the top 5. I'd rather have any of them than Yi Jianlian who went 6th.

    I will take ANY increase to the lottery odds that doesn't hurt the current team.
    It's logical you want the highest odds/chance to get a top two pick in this draft.
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