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Is Jamal Crawford a HoFer?
After Gilbert's remarks about Manu on his recent podcast, I thought it would be appropriate to make this thread.
Is Jamal Crawford a HoFer?
Manu's international resume pushes him past Crawford but Crawford wasn't a slouch either. Just because they both came off the bench doesn't mean they are comparable players. Love how people instantly cross out the rings as an argument for someone they want to push down, but bring it up right away for someone they want to lift up. Rings matter, especially since he was part of the big 3.
He's an idiot. I bet he also thinks that he himself was easily better than Manu.
the thought process just seems so wrong... he ultimately boils it down to "who would you take one on one, thats the better player." lets grant his point that crawford is a better one on one player (arguable). why is that the determining factor in a team game? crawford was an isolation scoring specialist. he's going to be a great one on one player. manu's best trait was his ability to orchestrate an offense and pass, which is something that wouldnt show in a one on one situation.
doesnt surprise me that arenas wants to rank players that way, since it probably makes him feel better about himself given that he was also a brilliant one on one scorer in his day.
Manu will be first ballot HoF
Crawford or Arenas?
Manu put those stats up because he was the 6 man
If he was a starter the whole time his stats would not be as good as they were
He was special because he gave 150 percent on court he knew he could with the minutes he played
As usual I completely disagree with you. Manu sacrificed statistics when he came off the bench to be everything our team needed him to be. If he started somewhere else he would have had much more glamorous stats and been way more widely talked about throughout his prime.
No. Yes , Manu is far more the better all around player but if he was in the ball hog iso role like Crawford he would be as much or more than Crawford in that regard. Absolutely stupid conversation.
Arenas argument shows why he never won diddly ding dong. Neither did Crawford for that matter. Sure, Crawford could score better in clear out, one-on-one situations than Manu, but Crawford isn’t towering over Manu in that regard. Literally every other facet of the game of basketball Manu was the better player. Manu is the better defender, passer, intelligence in regards to floor spacing, drawing fouls, scoring in traffic, Manu was the complete player. Manu beating team USA for gold while being clearly the best player on his team shows how he could pull the best out of the players around him.
I feel dumber for feeding into this click bait garbage content lol
If crawford or sweet lou could play D they might have some rings
if manu was a starter playing starters minutes, his stats would go up...dunno about efficiency, but it still be avg...manu aint no chucker
if u dont wanna talk about championships, why not talk about all nba team awards, allstar teams, olympic or wc medals...oh wait, GA is a wanker
dumbass shot himself in the foot
put Manu on the D'Antoni Rockets and he would be considered better than Harden which he is in fact
Damn, I miss watching Manu play. No one like him these days.
Manu was easily a better complete basketball player than GA; Manu was not only skilled but ultra compe ive & self driven!
First of all, listening to anything Gilbert Arenas has to say is usually a mistake. That guy is a bonehead if there ever was one.
Secondly, this is where Manu sacrificing his stats and coming off the bench will always hurt his "legacy".
If Manu played for any other team and was a starter and played 35 mins a game, he would be just as highly regarded as Crawford or Arenas or whoever you want to put on the list.
He also would have probably won less rings, and his career would have been half as long with his style of play.
At the end of the day, I'm pretty sure Manu rests easy knowing he contributed to four les, an Olympic gold medal, and was solidly one third of one of the best trios in NBA history.
gilbert arenas will never sniff the hall of fame; crawford-maybe.
Damn Agent Zero made 160mm from salary alone plus some Adidas money.
Meh who cares?
What a brain dead take by Gilbert Arenas. I don't even feel like making any points on why Manu is 100% better.
He thinks crossover's makes a better individual playerZero just want attention.
Manu is a better passer, rebounder, defender, 2 point shooter, 3 point shooter. Jamal has the edge on FT shooting and ppg.
It’s weird how players are so fascinated with one on ones. I mean neither would be able to defend the other in a one on one anyways. I think what Gilbert is trying to say is that Jamal is the greater one on one player who can break down another player without help. But seriously who gives a about that. Basketball isn’t a one on one game.
You swap Manu for Arenas or Crawford and the Spurs still ring.
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