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    This is what has become here - arguments over stats on the players others don’t cover on the projected worst team in NBA led by the worst FO and an over the hill coach. Bottom line don’t care till we get a compe ive winner again.

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    This is what has become here - arguments over stats on the players others don’t cover on the projected worst team in NBA led by the worst FO and an over the hill coach. Bottom line don’t care till we get a compe ive winner again.
    It’s pre-season. What do you want to talk about in ST, the Queen of England?

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    It’s pre-season. What do you want to talk about in ST, the Queen of England?
    Lizzy's in a box...

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    J Rich said Vassell is probably the young player who will have the biggest improvement this year, based on what he has seen in training camp

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    Vassell and Jones are gonna both improve statistically this season. I don’t think he is getting the star line that the thread starter said though.

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    Vassell looks like . This chatter about him being a 2 way player is not warranted.

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    Vassell looked like he bulked up in photos but clearly still looks small next to other players. His frame is just built that way. He’s never going to be this huge player who magically would push players around that folks fantasize about.

    I’m not like other folks who think he’s destined to be a garbage player either. I think he could be a great one, just not the type that people envision. His game is NOWHERE close to the playstyle of Kawhi which I said from the beginning yet people kept forcing unto him because he has some semblance of a two way game. He can be good if he stuck to his minimal ball handling, pure catch and shoot role. There are legends who made a living this way. He does not need to try too much. Clearly, he has talent in shooting. He can keep doing his “dribble 2-3 towards the hoop from mid range and pull up” move— I think those go in and are effective for him. But all the nonsense with him trying to drive to the basket only to get swatted or turn the ball over? That needs to stop. Obviously, drive it to the basket when there’s an opening…but in traffic? His instinct there is bad. It could improve, sure. But it’s not his bread and butter and there are better things he can focus on.

    KBD is out-Vasselling Vassell. Vassell could be a smaller, quicker version of what KBD was showing in preseason game 2. That’s a useful player with a decent ceiling if he just mastered that. The way I see it, he could be a player that makes 5 3’s a game frequently if he was getting them via catch and shoot. That’s how good he can become but only if he dropped this nonsense.

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    Vassell looked like he bulked up in photos but clearly still looks small next to other players. His frame is just built that way. He’s never going to be this huge player who magically would push players around that folks fantasize about.

    I’m not like other folks who think he’s destined to be a garbage player either. I think he could be a great one, just not the type that people envision. His game is NOWHERE close to the playstyle of Kawhi which I said from the beginning yet people kept forcing unto him because he has some semblance of a two way game. He can be good if he stuck to his minimal ball handling, pure catch and shoot role. There are legends who made a living this way. He does not need to try too much. Clearly, he has talent in shooting. He can keep doing his “dribble 2-3 towards the hoop from mid range and pull up” move— I think those go in and are effective for him. But all the nonsense with him trying to drive to the basket only to get swatted or turn the ball over? That needs to stop. Obviously, drive it to the basket when there’s an opening…but in traffic? His instinct there is bad. It could improve, sure. But it’s not his bread and butter and there are better things he can focus on.

    KBD is out-Vasselling Vassell. Vassell could be a smaller, quicker version of what KBD was showing in preseason game 2. That’s a useful player with a decent ceiling if he just mastered that. The way I see it, he could be a player that makes 5 3’s a game frequently if he was getting them via catch and shoot. That’s how good he can become but only if he dropped this nonsense.
    At the risk of making player comparisons from the glory days Vassell could be a Danny Green archetype.

    A nice stroke and defensive specialist but even his D wavers. It’s not lack of effort it’s just nothing to write home about.

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    so far in hisNBA career Vassell has been a very streaky player changing from hot to cold every few weeks/months ... he definitely is starting pre-season on the cold side

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    Lol of course he looks good in camp going against McDermott and Joe meinkampf

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    It’s okay. He just needs reps and maybe another year to develop. Still believe in him as a feature starter. I don’t think he’ll ever be an All Star, but he’s a good young player.

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    24 pts, 3-5 from 3pts in 22 minutes, to lead the Spurs to their first victory of the... Pre-Season .

    I think we'll see more of this production from Devin, and even better as he gets getting used to being the primary or 2nd option.

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    good call OP

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    Yup, called it at the end of last season. I told yall when johnB speaks yall better listen up
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    Slick81 johnb alt confirmed

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    there's always the possibility that keldon takes that MIP away from devin.

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    there's always the possibility that keldon takes that MIP away from devin.
    Keldon has a pretty stout year last year. Unless he goes Ja I doubt he gets much of a look.

    Vassell might become a 17-20 a night scorer but he doesn’t do anything else very well. I don’t think he gets on ppl’s radar. Maybe if playing on a better team.

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    Keldon has a pretty stout year last year. Unless he goes Ja I doubt he gets much of a look.

    Vassell might become a 17-20 a night scorer but he doesn’t do anything else very well. I don’t think he gets on ppl’s radar. Maybe if playing on a better team.

    that's exactly the reason i mentioned it. after last season, i have no idea what the bar is. or, last year's vote may have been an indication of how some voters don't spend too much time watching these players from year to year. it's very different from our vantage point.

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    that's exactly the reason i mentioned it. after last season, i have no idea what the bar is. or, last year's vote may have been an indication of how some voters don't spend too much time watching these players from year to year. it's very different from our vantage point.
    I think Keldon will get some notice and might even get AS nod. But Keldon was already averaging 17pts last year, so he would’ve to average 27pts to mimic Ja’s MIP year, which is still possible. But Devin was just 12 pts last year. If he averages 24 pts like last night, wouldn’t that be a significant improvement? That’s my rationality. And somebody has to score, so I hope both of them take advantage of the opportunity.

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    Vassell, in my opinion, has always looked smooth. I think he will thrive, but hopefully not too much. We need to lose games.

    Nice to see the three point shooting and him moving well with or without the ball in his hands. If he can ever make it to a secondary creator, that would be awesome. He seems to have that kind of potential more than Johnson, but my guess is neither get there. But Vassell could develop into a No. 3 on a playoff team.

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    In the wake of Dejounte’s trade and the Spurs are left without a real goto player, Devin Vassell will rise to the challenge as Spurs primary goto scorer and will be a candidate for Most Improved Player this year. I predict Devin will average close to 22 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assist, 1.5 blocks, 2 steals per game. There you go
    B2B games with 22 points

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    Well well well Devin with another 22+

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