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    i think it was a bad player making a bad play and got lucky

    only part that looked su ious was here attempted explanation that she had him at ace high ... but i think she was just dumb and in the moment. i understand cheat accusations in online games, but when was the last time there was a serious irl cheating situation?
    I think the cheating in real life is probably much higher than you believe. It only takes a two people working in concert to significantly change the odds.

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    She cheated, and gave herself away when she said she would’ve bowed out had it been a different suited Jack, but goes all in after the turn when the flush/straight flush aren’t even in play.

    Only way that happens is if she knows his hand. You could chalk it up to dumb luck, or ditziness, but her explanation at the end of it was a dead giveaway
    so her epic cheating strategy was to call an all-in bet with basically a coin flip's chance of prevailing?

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    so her epic cheating strategy was to call an all-in bet with basically a coin flip's chance of prevailing?
    What SFS said above you. She had help. Can’t prove it but it’s super sketchy, her comments solidified it for me. If she kept her mouth shut then I would assume like you she’s just aloof.

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    I think the cheating in real life is probably much higher than you believe. It only takes a two people working in concert to significantly change the odds.
    who would be the second person who knew both what the other player had and exactly what the river would be?

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    What SFS said above you. She had help. Can’t prove it but it’s super sketchy, her comments solidified it for me. If she kept her mouth shut then I would assume like you she’s just aloof.
    who would be the second person who knew both what the other player had and exactly what the river would be?
    I wasn't saying that was the case in this hand. I would think these events would have better security than a home game or even a casino. Seems like they would scan each person for devices.
    My point was that at random games or casinos, I think cheating may be pretty prevalent. Getting two good players that can signal each other would make it pretty tough on the rest of the table. If they had three players, they would absolutely dominate.

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    I wasn't saying that was the case in this hand. I would think these events would have better security than a home game or even a casino. Seems like they would scan each person for devices.
    My point was that at random games or casinos, I think cheating may be pretty prevalent. Getting two good players that can signal each other would make it pretty tough on the rest of the table. If they had three players, they would absolutely dominate.
    well yeah i'm specifically talking about these higher profile/televised events

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    who would be the second person who knew both what the other player had and exactly what the river would be?
    See my comment above. I wasn't addressing this hand if you look at my quoted post.

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    well yeah i'm specifically talking about these higher profile/televised events
    I wasn't. I was just addressing irl. I don't consider these televised events as irl. It doesn't seem like it'd be too hard to monitor those situations. I suppose they may change the protocols for how they check players and maybe even put them in some box that s up communications. IDK. But I'm sure it's doable. Again, I'm not convinced she cheated.

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    she said: "if my jack wasn't a club then i would've been out."
    and dude was like, what are you talking about ?

    then she changed the subject.

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    she said: "if my jack wasn't a club then i would've been out."
    and dude was like, what are you talking about ?

    then she changed the subject.
    couldnt that just mean she had him on a club flush draw and knew she was holding an out card?

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    couldnt that just mean she had him on a club flush draw and knew she was holding an out card?
    If indeed she was factoring in the Jack as a Club on the flop, FFS it's only 1 card and hardly drops the math down for an opponent on a Flush draw.

    Repeat, she thought he had an Ace per her own words.
    Then the seeming lie about not checking her cards (cameras clearly show otherwise) and thinking she had a 3. Bull .

    If she was just super ditzy and completely willing to throw away her new sugar daddys money, great. But the Club blocker excuse is lame.

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    Hear from Robbi Lew yourself. While obviously tipped off in advance to the questions, nonetheless specific questions are asked by podcaster Chad Holloway and she answers them.

    PN Pod Special Edition: Robbi Jade Lew Addresses Hustler Casino Live Cheating Allegations | PokerNews

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    Todays digital electronics make all kinds of cheating ops.

    Have you read about the chess scandal where it's being alleged the dude had electroics stuffed up his ass like in a but plug. The read was then forwarded to him.
    Not talking about your mom last night, this really happened vs the Grand Master for the championship.

    Likewise in poker theoretically all kinds of electric could be planted. Read about the guy last name Postle. Busted for using his smart phone.

    Back to miss fake hooters in this hand, since the game had a live feed, entirely possible someone could hack into the feed thus relay info.

    If, repeat IF she and her team cheated, i would find it more believable that she already knew the river card vs going in at 47%.

    We'll see if any investigation turns up more info.
    Poker World powers to be at large just sweeps this under the table.
    Dont use the chess argument to solidify your argument here.
    The method you describe has been deemed total BS and was first presented by Elon Musk who enjoys this banter when he is high.
    There are much easier ways to cheat over-the-board.
    And this chess situation has not come close to a resolution. the butt beads are meant to be a laugher and bring attention so …. More readers.

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    Dont use the chess argument to solidify your argument here.
    The method you describe has been deemed total BS and was first presented by Elon Musk who enjoys this banter when he is high.
    There are much easier ways to cheat over-the-board.
    And this chess situation has not come close to a resolution. the butt beads are meant to be a laugher and bring attention so …. More readers.
    My "argument" has been presenting what both sides are presenting. I continue to lean she cheated but am all for fairness. So if she did not, great.

    By whom has the butt plug with electronics been deemed total BS?
    Even if the plug is/was deemed BS, does not rule out other electronics by chess guy.

    The Chess.com report cites Regan as an independent expert, saying he agrees with its conclusions that Niemann cheated in multiple cash-prize online events in 2015 and 2017, and also in "numerous matches against other professional players in 2020."
    Cheating in chess often takes the form of secretly getting move recommendations from a computer program, known as a chess engine.
    While the Chess.com findings incriminate Niemann's play in online games, the report acknowledges "a lack of concrete statistical evidence" that Niemann has cheated in any in-person or "over-the-board" (OTB) games.
    Still, the report suggests further review is needed to study "how Hans became the fastest rising top player in Classical OTB chess in modern recorded history much later in life than his peers." It also notes that Niemann's rating soared after the site quietly suspended him in 2020, when it confronted him with evidence of cheating.

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    good one by Elon if he was the original troll.

    I guess not if intended chess guy did play 100 fair.

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    My "argument" has been presenting what both sides are presenting. I continue to lean she cheated but am all for fairness. So if she did not, great.

    By whom has the butt plug with electronics been deemed total BS?
    Even if the plug is/was deemed BS, does not rule out other electronics by chess guy.

    The Chess.com report cites Regan as an independent expert, saying he agrees with its conclusions that Niemann cheated in multiple cash-prize online events in 2015 and 2017, and also in "numerous matches against other professional players in 2020."
    Cheating in chess often takes the form of secretly getting move recommendations from a computer program, known as a chess engine.
    While the Chess.com findings incriminate Niemann's play in online games, the report acknowledges "a lack of concrete statistical evidence" that Niemann has cheated in any in-person or "over-the-board" (OTB) games.
    Still, the report suggests further review is needed to study "how Hans became the fastest rising top player in Classical OTB chess in modern recorded history much later in life than his peers." It also notes that Niemann's rating soared after the site quietly suspended him in 2020, when it confronted him with evidence of cheating.

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    Nieman HAS admitted he cheated on line.
    The game in question was over-the -board.
    All I am saying is your chess example does not work for poker.
    There are much easier ways to cheat over-the-board.

    The vast majority of the chess community does not believe this method was used.
    In fact its pretty split down the line on whether Nieman cheated or not by experts who examined the moves.
    Most of the experts who examine the moves say the moves do NOT indicate he cheated.

    bottom line its not a good example for given poker situation.

    late addition: Nieman is a fantastic chess player. He has proven himself very worthy of beating anyone over-the-board. But he is young and not very careful and got frustrated as a teenager when losing. they all lose. this is not the first time he has beaten Carlsen over-the-board and Carlsen admits he got beat fair and square in those games. It was that one game that Carlsen thought he made moves that must have been assisted.
    Last edited by pgardn; 10-06-2022 at 05:32 PM.

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    Poker controversy takes bizarre turn as HCL review finds employee 'removing' chips from Robbi Jade Lew's stack (msn.com)





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    Right when I was getting bored with the story a new crazy update emerges lol

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    Yep.
    Bryan Sagbigsal was willing to take the chips off her table, one would assume he knew full well was on camera. And it sounds like would have not been caught had the investigation taken place thus viewing video have come about.

    So, begets the question was Bryan Sagbigsal in on any of this? Ok maybe that's a reach, or is it? Collecting payment from Robbie Lew for feeding her camera info? Or just rando slease ball impetuously grabbing some chips? How convenient that Bryan will not be charged. Airhead Lew just did not notice that 15K were missing from her stack?

    Any way it's spun Hustler Casino has tons of criminal types around. Seriously doubt we'll get a truthful investigation but, onward.

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    And the cash game stream still went on last night.... business as usual

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    Yep.
    Bryan Sagbigsal was willing to take the chips off her table, one would assume he knew full well was on camera. And it sounds like would have not been caught had the investigation taken place thus viewing video have come about.

    So, begets the question was Bryan Sagbigsal in on any of this? Ok maybe that's a reach, or is it? Collecting payment from Robbie Lew for feeding her camera info? Or just rando slease ball impetuously grabbing some chips? How convenient that Bryan will not be charged. Airhead Lew just did not notice that 15K were missing from her stack?

    Any way it's spun Hustler Casino has tons of criminal types around. Seriously doubt we'll get a truthful investigation but, onward.
    Would you say a significant number of casinos use employees to cheat?
    This was one game I thought might be cool because it allows compe ion between customers aided by the casino. Sort of a parimutuel wager.
    And yeah, I dont play. Much rather do football with the points.

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    Would you say a significant number of casinos use employees to cheat?
    Absolutely.

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    Right when I was getting bored with the story a new crazy update emerges lol
    And continuing updates.

    Check the access that chip stealer / Hustler Live Stream now ex employee Bryan and what came down in moving a file cabinet to block view of his own desk etc.
    FF to 6:20 if the post does not auto fwd:
    p.s. to any that hate Polk, deal with message not the messenger. Polk is presenting info i have not seen elsewhere and all indications are was given mega in person access by Hustler Live Stream Mr. Feldman.


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    so her epic cheating strategy was to call an all-in bet with basically a coin flip's chance of prevailing?
    old post but 53 to 47 with one card on the turn is not a coin flip especially when you run it twice, "close enough to being a coin flip" is litterally how casinos make millions of dollars on their games

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