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    Okay then.

    Provide an example.

    I want to see an example of charges and a conviction of someone.

    Who.

    Handed a gun to one person who then gave said gun to another person and was convicted of accessory.

    … with a lack of evidence that points to intention.

    Because right now there is zero evidence that he knew he was passing a gun to someone who was gonna pass a gun to a 3rd person to commit murder.

    I’m not saying he didn’t know but I am saying there’s no evidence and your claim that it’s as regular as my morning dump just doesn’t hold up.

    So provide examples.
    I don’t know about AL, and in all likelihood they have some redneck gun nutter laws on the books, but in some states. You are responsible for the care of your firearm at all times, and there are consequences if your gun shows up somewhere else involved in a crime (and you have a duty to report it stolen if that is the case, so that you do not face the consequences if someone steals your gun and uses it in a crime).

    Likely AL doesn’t have this basic common ing sense law, because it is a state like Texas: filled with and run by some of the dumbest mother ers on the planet.

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    I don’t know about AL, and in all likelihood they have some redneck gun nutter laws on the books, but in some states. You are responsible for the care of your firearm at all times, and there are consequences if your gun shows up somewhere else involved in a crime (and you have a duty to report it stolen if that is the case, so that you do not face the consequences if someone steals your gun and uses it in a crime).

    Likely AL doesn’t have this basic common ing sense law, because it is a state like Texas: filled with and run by some of the dumbest mother ers on the planet.
    preach.

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    I deliberately didn't make a judgement on whether he should or should not be charged as an accessory before the fact. That is a legal question that will be decided by the appropriate authorities--but that being said, the questions about the race of Miller and his buddies--and the status as outstanding athletes at the university as part of the outside influences that can inform the legal process seem to have been the main issues that dominated responses to my post.

    Apparently, I didn't make myself clear because I was trying to be judiciously polite. This is my point. He is/was a dumbass for taking that gun to any location and anyone at that late hour, especially if it was going to someone at a nightclub who was most probably drinking. This has nothing to do with race or his status as a prime athlete. Bad judgement for a white nerd as well.

    Just DUMB.

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    Brandon Miller is a gangster and he is proud of it. One of his best friends shot a woman to death. Brandon Miller should be in jail and will probably be soon. But he seems to be proud of this murder tbh. He is gloating. That coach of that stupid team is a moron and I can't believe he can be a college coach. And don't bring the race card PLEASE. This is too stupid.

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    Okay then.

    Provide an example.

    I want to see an example of charges and a conviction of someone.

    Who.

    Handed a gun to one person who then gave said gun to another person and was convicted of accessory.

    Ö with a lack of evidence that points to intention.

    Because right now there is zero evidence that he knew he was passing a gun to someone who was gonna pass a gun to a 3rd person to commit murder.

    Iím not saying he didnít know but I am saying thereís no evidence and your claim that itís as regular as my morning dump just doesnít hold up.

    So provide examples.
    Dude this happens all the time. Many of my law school buds who are now either prosecutors or public defenders see versions of this fact patterns all the damn time in Baltimore city.

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    I have to say, I don't see it with Nick Smith, Jr., even realizing he's coming back from injury. He's small, doesn't get a ton of separation, is streaky having to make tough shots. I keep seeing Johnny Davis. He should be ripping it up at that size like Trae Young did in college.

    Gradey had a terrible shooting night but was able to affect the game elsewhere. I continue to like him and Black, although I wouldn't peg them as high lottery picks necessarily. I just don't know who I would pick over them at this point. Still seeing a cliff after the top three.

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    Agreed I don't see him at 3. Would trade down or up (but exensive) if nbr 3. 3-10 is pretty equal now after Brandon Miller proved he is an evil #cool" "gangsta" stupid gangster.

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    Given the desperate need for someone with a modern skillset and go-to ability, Smith Jr. should be in strong consideration once they end up outside of the top two.

    My long term question though, is if he's the type ideally suited to being a 6th man on an elite team? There's tons of these types who start, make big money and are even considered fringe stars, but you rarely see them on elite teams and when you do, it's in a reduced role (Poole in the '22 playoffs, Maxey this season).

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    Zach Edey should be considered in the second. Yes, he's not in the modern style, but he's still a of a force to get for a 2nd round pick.

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    Zach Edey should be considered in the second. Yes, he's not in the modern style, but he's still a of a force to get for a 2nd round pick.
    He's incredibly talented and sometimes those players just make their way. I'd look at him with a SRP definitely.

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    On the cusp of conference tournaments and then the NCAAT, there are a number of prospects whose seasons are just about over. These include Cam Whitmore, GG Jackson, and a player who has gone under the radar for me in Taylor Hendricks.

    Right now I'm filling in my top 5 as Wembanyama-Scoot-Brandon Miller and then Amen Thompson and Jarace Walker.

    I am unsure about how teams will regard Thompson, but think teams won't be able to resist his athleticism.

    A lot of mocks have Jarace Walker high and Taylor Hendricks something like fifteen to twenty picks behind him. Walker has been a better defender stats-wise, Hendricks better on the other side of the floor. Hendricks might be penalized for playing for UCF in a poor conference - although Houston is in the same conference. I can see Hendricks rising in the draft process.

    I don't know whether the Spurs would look heavily at PFs given Sochan's emergence.

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    On the cusp of conference tournaments and then the NCAAT, there are a number of prospects whose seasons are just about over. These include Cam Whitmore, GG Jackson, and a player who has gone under the radar for me in Taylor Hendricks.

    Right now I'm filling in my top 5 as Wembanyama-Scoot-Brandon Miller and then Amen Thompson and Jarace Walker.

    I am unsure about how teams will regard Thompson, but think teams won't be able to resist his athleticism.

    A lot of mocks have Jarace Walker high and Taylor Hendricks something like fifteen to twenty picks behind him. Walker has been a better defender stats-wise, Hendricks better on the other side of the floor. Hendricks might be penalized for playing for UCF in a poor conference - although Houston is in the same conference. I can see Hendricks rising in the draft process.

    I don't know whether the Spurs would look heavily at PFs given Sochan's emergence.
    I don’t know if we should draft that Michael Jordan kid. We already have Clyde Drexler.

    - Portland’s GM

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    On the cusp of conference tournaments and then the NCAAT, there are a number of prospects whose seasons are just about over. These include Cam Whitmore, GG Jackson, and a player who has gone under the radar for me in Taylor Hendricks.

    Right now I'm filling in my top 5 as Wembanyama-Scoot-Brandon Miller and then Amen Thompson and Jarace Walker.

    I am unsure about how teams will regard Thompson, but think teams won't be able to resist his athleticism.

    A lot of mocks have Jarace Walker high and Taylor Hendricks something like fifteen to twenty picks behind him. Walker has been a better defender stats-wise, Hendricks better on the other side of the floor. Hendricks might be penalized for playing for UCF in a poor conference - although Houston is in the same conference. I can see Hendricks rising in the draft process.

    I don't know whether the Spurs would look heavily at PFs given Sochan's emergence.
    Don't think we need to worry about that Sochan can play SF if needed, especially if he could get back the 3ptrs just before his back injury.

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    If itís neither Wemba or Scoot, my guess is they draft a guy who has the foot speed and size to be versatile enough as a defender to switch on players 2-4. Sochan cant continue to be the only guy who does that the whole game and the team defense has to improve somehow.

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    I don’t know if we should draft that Michael Jordan kid. We already have Clyde Drexler.

    - Portland’s GM
    Which one is Michael Jordan in this scenario?

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    If it’s neither Wemba or Scoot, my guess is they draft a guy who has the foot speed and size to be versatile enough as a defender to switch on players 2-4. Sochan cant continue to be the only guy who does that the whole game and the team defense has to improve somehow.
    If they fall out from the top 2 (Wemba, Scoot), I suspect the Spurs 3ed target will be Amen Thompson. They took a similar-ish to the swing they took on Primo; highest upside if it comes good.

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    If they fall out from the top 2 (Wemba, Scoot), I suspect the Spurs 3ed target will be Amen Thompson. They took a similar-ish to the swing they took on Primo; highest upside if it comes good.
    I’m trying so hard to like Amen but damnit, it looks like Lonnie redux. Can certainly fly and run with the best of them, but the fundamentals are so poor he looks like he will be a deer in headlights when he starts playing NBA basketball.

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    I’m trying so hard to like Amen but damnit, it looks like Lonnie redux. Can certainly fly and run with the best of them, but the fundamentals are so poor he looks like he will be a deer in headlights when he starts playing NBA basketball.
    Miller would be perfect, too bad he's a degenerate.

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    The Thompson twins giving me big Corey Brewer vibes lol hope I’m wrong

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    I’m trying so hard to like Amen but damnit, it looks like Lonnie redux. Can certainly fly and run with the best of them, but the fundamentals are so poor he looks like he will be a deer in headlights when he starts playing NBA basketball.
    the spurs allegedly had lonnie high on the board, and while there's a small chance that's a small lie to pump up his confidence or trade value, it's not unreasonable to say the spurs would consider lonnie in the lottery if they had the pick.

    s for lonnie being mid, you can't deny he has the body to be a star but just not the instinct. People like to pretend the spurs have a witch doctor to determine which players have the spirit and which have child abuse. The lonnie we know is the lonnie who has complex confidence issues, and the primo we know is in hiding out of shame. But primos and lonnies are top 10 picks for the team, so why not keep kicking the can to find the one? the bar of pick 3 is so low that it's not real bad for the spurs to reach for that mass of ten prospects in the second and third tire. Especially when the spurs will likely pick 5-7

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    the spurs allegedly had lonnie high on the board, and while there's a small chance that's a small lie to pump up his confidence or trade value, it's not unreasonable to say the spurs would consider lonnie in the lottery if they had the pick.

    s for lonnie being mid, you can't deny he has the body to be a star but just not the instinct. People like to pretend the spurs have a witch doctor to determine which players have the spirit and which have child abuse. The lonnie we know is the lonnie who has complex confidence issues, and the primo we know is in hiding out of shame. But primos and lonnies are top 10 picks for the team, so why not keep kicking the can to find the one? the bar of pick 3 is so low that it's not real bad for the spurs to reach for that mass of ten prospects in the second and third tire. Especially when the spurs will likely pick 5-7
    I wonít cry if heís drafted, but I may have to buckle up and prepare for ugly basketball while he grows as a player. It had been such a relief to go from dumb players to smart ones (Collins over Eubanks, Malaki over Lonnie, anybody over Rudy Gay) that this would feel like a step back in overall bball IQ.

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    Been targeting 6'8" 225 Jalen Wilson, PF from Kansas for SAs 2RP. Hope he falls past the first round. 23/10 today against Texas.

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    We are about to enter the conference tournaments and then the big dance. We've all got our opinions, but here's mine going into tournament season. I'm sure performances will impact that and then we'll have combine measurements, interviews, and individual workout to provide data after that. Here's where I have my board at present.. this isn't a Spurs board...just my overall board. I think it's pretty strong into the late teens.

    Tier 1
    1. Victor Wembanyama
    Tier 2
    2. Scoot Henderson
    Tier 3
    3. Nick Smith Jr
    4. Cam Whitmore
    5. Brandon Miller
    6. Jarace Walker
    7. Amen Thompson
    8. Gradey
    Tier 4
    9. Ausar Thompson
    10. Anthony Black
    11. Gregory Jackson II
    12. Keyonte George
    13. Kris Murray
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    14. Jett Howard
    15. Brian Sensabaugh
    16. Jalen Hood-Schifino
    17. Jordan Hawkins
    18. Cason Wallace
    19. Dariq Whitehead
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    20. Kyle Filipowski
    21. Maxwell Lewis
    22. Ke'lel Ware
    23. James Nnaji
    24. Terquavion Smith
    25. Rayan Rupert
    26. Taylor Hendricks
    27. Emoni Bates
    28. Sidy Cissoko
    29. Dereck Lively II
    30. Leonard Miller

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    Nick Smith with some good games lately. His touch looks really good, particularly on floaters.
    Last edited by duncan2150; 03-04-2023 at 08:07 PM.

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    I’m trying so hard to like Amen but damnit, it looks like Lonnie redux. Can certainly fly and run with the best of them, but the fundamentals are so poor he looks like he will be a deer in headlights when he starts playing NBA basketball.
    Lonnie had a wet jumper, and still couldn’t break out. Amen would be lucky to ever have a shot like that.

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