We'll see what kind of caliber player he is.
Suddenly we believe media heads when it fits our narrative? Nothing has been proven until these players play NBA games, as it always has been when predictions are made. Y’all jump the gun too quick. And I haven’t been able to get on this site much, ex, I will get back to you soon.
A couple of guys I'm liking in the mid 20's are Gregory Jackson II and Noah Clowney. Jackson has been dropping on several boards, I've got him pegged in the mid teens right now on mine. Clowney has been rising and is in the 20's on most boards.
We could probably package our two 2nd's and get into that range.
I didn't believe in Scoot when he was super hyped.
I believed Miller pushed past him before it became a chorus.
You can believe what you want. I mean obviously nothing has been proven, lol. You sound like a wounded girlfriend.
Read your two statements again and then read mines. I clearly said “when it fits your narrative”, which you’re clearly boasting about it in this post.
And don’t get me started about “sounding like a wounded girlfriend”, that’s you and the MANY crazy rants you do on a frequent basis. Jesus. Sometimes I have coffee in the morning, open this site, and think to myself, “Ok, what bull is Mr Body crying about today?”
So,what happens if the Spurs have #2, and just pass on Scoot? That meets neither of our win conditions. Is it a draw?
Love Clowney, however, with everyone watching Alabama because of drama and Miller his play hasn't been under the radar for a while. I expect him to go way before the Spurs have a chance to move up for him. Like somewhere in the 15-20 range imo. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he's the first center drafted after Wemby.
I wonder if reports that Ja may be done for the year will have any impact on Miller’s draft placement?
Agreed I thought it would be Kel’el Ware but to much noise about his work ethic has come out and Lively has no outside shooting but is a good rim protector
I think a lot of pundits and outlets think it will, but won't write that for fear that they could get sued if he does drop and blames their stories.
BTW, MEM is on a 3-0 streak, and their win% last year was better when Ja missed those 25 games.
Use mine not mines. Mines are where miners go.
I am not so sure about that I think ESPN is going into OT to shield Ja as he is one of the new face of the NBA franchise. You see them turning the story from him brandishing a gun to him now having mental/alcohol issues. I think Sports has always turned a blind eye on players who can produce at a high level in the end it is all about the plata $$
But with Miller I think his whole life is going to be examined every text, post, like, will be examined- I also think the same will be with anyone who has close contact with him- family, teachers, teammates, coaches, and all friends from middle school to college. Everyone one of them will have a jacket and a risk assessment assigned to them - more so for his friends or people he hangs around with. Teams will definitely have a good idea of the character of Miller if they draft him.
Alternatively, you could also try to watch games to understand why Miller is rising instead on taking the "Y'all media sheeps" road...
but thanks for the revelation that "Nothing has been proven until these players play NBA games" No !? Why even make draft threads or talk about it? Let's just wait the end of their career before talking about players.
And I've never been that high on Scoot either.
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I went ahead and created a thread for our bet so it doesn't get lost in this one. Respond at your leisure. No hurry, as the lottery is still over two months away.
To be fair, two of those wins were against a bad Dallas team without Doncic.
If we don’t get who we want, then maybe draft Grady and trade him to Utah for three first round draft picks? Joking?
Very well could be... Espn has him at 19 on their board now...
What's the draw? He's not a floor spacer or a shot blocker.
There's definitely promise in his 3 point shooting, he has good form and doesn't hesitate to shoot. Eye test says his % will be better with time. He's also mobile and can do a lot of things defensively, both as a rim protector and providing some switchability. Plus he might be comfortable playing a position down, as a PF, in the correct matchups.
One of the youngest players in the draft as well AND something I love in prospects - he plays consistently well against good teams, not just feasting against the bad ones.
The centers in this draft seem a bit underwhelming. Here are comparisons among them and to Kessler and Duren. I didn't really 'scout' Kessler last year. His advanced numbers are absurd.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...walker-kessler
Lively seems like the top of the three, although some have said his defensive awareness is worse than his numbers show. Nearly 5 fouls per 36 minutes! Ware plays very little and apparently his at ude isn't the best.
Basically, I doubt any of those three will ever be as good as Zach Collins, basically, although I suppose he's not a shotblocker.
If anything, I'd look at Edey or Jackson-Davis in the second round, but then they're old and this team has a logjam of bigs all of a sudden. Edey is skilled, but slow and not a shotblocker. TJD is Methuselah, cannot hit a jumpshot, but is a shotblocker and a rebounder.
I'm having a hard time projecting NBA 3 point success when he's shooting 28% from the shorter college line, and his FT% is 64. Your mileage may vary.
Here's Zach Collins vs. Noah Clowney coming into their draft after their freshman years.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...--zach-collins
Collins didn't really shoot that many threes in college; Clowney shoots four times as many.
Collins was way better, I mean by a good deal, pretty much everywhere. Much better shot blocker, btw.
Of course you may be looking for value. Collins was drafted at #10. I'm beginning to realize the Spurs really got a player with him. Clowney is not in the same ballpark.
Agreed, i think both Kessler and Duren are way better than the 3 you mentionned. Kessler was one of the best shotblockers in the NCAA history.
We stole him because he had undergone foot surgery. 3/$21M with only half guaranteed.
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